What is the best country for Aspies to live in?

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29 Apr 2009, 2:14 pm

In the United States, the best place to live if you are disabled in some way would be a place that has services and infrastructure and is friendly toward those who are disabled. Places with economic prosperity and a good tax base that can supply the services you need would be a great place to call home. Very liveable. Perhaps a place that has a lot of specialists who know about your specific disability and can offer understanding and empathize with your struggles and what you have to go thru.

A bad place to live is a place such as this, where I live, with plenty of poor people who live at or near the poverty line, not much of a tax base, and very little sympathy or empathy for anyone who differs from the "norm". A place where someone is considered a useless burden unless they are fully able to "earn their keep", a place where the job market pretty much revolves around unskilled or manual labor, a place where, statistically, there's a lot of crime and abuse.



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29 Apr 2009, 2:56 pm

US. With the deplorable health care crisis no one gets help even if they need it.

So we are left alone.

Yes it is bad but not worse than some of the treatment that goes on in the name of autism which is just crap.



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29 Apr 2009, 2:57 pm

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US. With the deplorable health care crisis no one gets help even if they need it.

So we are left alone.

Yes it is bad but not worse than some of the treatment that goes on in the name of autism which is just crap.

How about Swaziland? You're guaranteed to be left alone there! :wink:


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29 Apr 2009, 3:01 pm

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I recently saw Micheal Moore's film Sicko. It stated that people with AS cannot get health insurance. If one has AS and gets ill in the USA it is very bad without health insurance or is Michael Moore exaggerating?

M. Moore is telling hte truth. Watch Sick Around America:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... ndamerica/

This will tell you all you need to know. It is true.



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29 Apr 2009, 4:05 pm

I have to support "Henriksson" on Scandinavia , I´m form Denmark, it is a very nice place to be if you have Aspergers.

I Know that Taxes are high, but if you need help, you are very well of. You get almost all the help you need, for the rest of your life.

If you have a Diagnose like Autism or Asperger, you can get a lot of help from the social service:

* Good pension as "mentally disabled", so you can live a basic, good life, if you are unable to earn your own pay.

* Help some hours every week to organize your daily life, like clean your clothes and home.

* Well organized self help groups

* Despite the way Danes are described in the news all over the world, we are fairly open to Geeks, Nerds, and aspies.


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29 Apr 2009, 4:07 pm

australia.
good services, good specialists in ASD's
good climate
lots of space so one can get away from people.



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29 Apr 2009, 4:11 pm

millie wrote:
australia.
good services, good specialists in ASD's
good climate
lots of space so one can get away from people.

Good climate? No offense, but it would be pretty annoying to have that much sunlight all year round. At least Scandinavia is dark half of the year. :p


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29 Apr 2009, 4:33 pm

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millie wrote:
australia.
good services, good specialists in ASD's
good climate
lots of space so one can get away from people.

Good climate? No offense, but it would be pretty annoying to have that much sunlight all year round. At least Scandinavia is dark half of the year. :p


each to their own. I do not like the cold, so Scandinavia would be out for me. low on the list.
I hate sunlight but like heat and water. sunglasses, hat. dark studio, dark house.



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29 Apr 2009, 5:05 pm

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I Despite the way Danes are described in the news all over the world, we are fairly open to Geeks, Nerds, and aspies.


Plus you have Soren Kierkegaard, one of my early obsessions. :heart:



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29 Apr 2009, 5:48 pm

Other than Aspergia... :wink:

I dunno lol.

Any nation with good services, a tolerant population, and nice climate. And big cities :P

EDIT: and 4chan. The Chanese Federation IRL :mrgreen: who knows :O


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29 Apr 2009, 6:11 pm

Sorenna wrote:
Aldebaran wrote:
I Despite the way Danes are described in the news all over the world, we are fairly open to Geeks, Nerds, and aspies.


Plus you have Soren Kierkegaard, one of my early obsessions. :heart:


Søren is a bit to "dark" for my taste, But we have Martinus the Danish philosopher whom I was obsessed with for many years :study:

Denmark is a good place to be, if you like intellectual things, like some Aspies do.


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29 Apr 2009, 6:54 pm

Padium wrote:
I cannot justify having to spend money on seeing a doctor.


Me neither. I havent paid a penny for my examination (excluding taxes i have paid earlier in my life).


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I might be very biased, but, Scandinavia. 8)


No really? :)


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I have to support "Henriksson" on Scandinavia , I´m form Denmark, it is a very nice place to be if you have Aspergers.

I Know that Taxes are high, but if you need help, you are very well of. You get almost all the help you need, for the rest of your life.

If you have a Diagnose like Autism or Asperger, you can get a lot of help from the social service:

* Good pension as "mentally disabled", so you can live a basic, good life, if you are unable to earn your own pay.

* Help some hours every week to organize your daily life, like clean your clothes and home.

* Well organized self help groups

* Despite the way Danes are described in the news all over the world, we are fairly open to Geeks, Nerds, and aspies.


Sounds like what i have heard of the Swedish perks. Norway and Finland is probably not far off the same list either. OTOH, you do not get retired here by default, they asses your work ability, and if your ASD isnt too severe, you can still get an active work life with support from the social services (coach, cognitive behaviour therapy etc depending on what you need).

(Personally, i just need a bit of tolerance and some understanding that i work to live, not live to work. The chances of getting an intresting job is very small and one can only care about boring subjects so much...)


And about that weather part...

Sure, Scandinavia is F--KING HORRIBLE during the winter months, unless you love snow and darkness - its dark a large part of the day, but during the summer, the sun never sets... and the temperature we get is close to the mediteranean.

Living up here is a love/hate relationship.


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29 Apr 2009, 8:40 pm

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But US doesn't offer job security, man!


Dude...there's no such thing as job security. One wrong move by random Joe in any department, and your position is gone in the blink of an eye.

If you think Unions will keep your job secure, well...let me ask you this: do you really want me to teach you the truth about Leprechauns, Santa, and the Tooth Fairy? :D



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29 Apr 2009, 10:52 pm

Nations aren't what they used to be. Between free trade, capital mobility and modern communication technology, the once towering cultural differences between countries are increasingly being ground down to GNP and climate. Differences in welfare state generosity are also being equalized (mostly downward). Someone living on disability in England has a lot more in common with his American or French counterpart than a yuppie in London-who in turn in increasingly difficult to distinguish from his counterpart in Paris or Chicago. Maybe the grass really is greener in Denmark, but I doubt it.



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29 Apr 2009, 10:56 pm

Gabe wrote:
Nations aren't what they used to be. Between free trade, capital mobility and modern communication technology, the once towering cultural differences between countries are increasingly being ground down to GNP and climate. Differences in welfare state generosity are also being equalized (mostly downward). Someone living on disability in England has a lot more in common with his American or French counterpart than a yuppie in London-who in turn in increasingly difficult to distinguish from his counterpart in Paris or Chicago. Maybe the grass really is greener in Denmark, but I doubt it.


You make it sound like a bad thing that "nations aren't what they used to be", only to go on and make it sound like a very good thing!



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30 Apr 2009, 2:20 am

Gabe wrote:
Nations aren't what they used to be. Between free trade, capital mobility and modern communication technology, the once towering cultural differences between countries are increasingly being ground down to GNP and climate. Differences in welfare state generosity are also being equalized (mostly downward). Someone living on disability in England has a lot more in common with his American or French counterpart than a yuppie in London-who in turn in increasingly difficult to distinguish from his counterpart in Paris or Chicago. Maybe the grass really is greener in Denmark, but I doubt it.


... and don't forget nations in the modern sense are a quite recent development. There is since the re-raise of long distant trade in Middle Ages a slow but constant tendency for larger political and cultural units: Faster for the elite, which was even in the 18th century quite uniform, slower for the rest of the society, faster in the cities, slower on the countryside - but doing its work; first in Europe, now worldwide.