I thought this would be a safe place to talk.
Whimsi-Cal,
WP really is a wonderful resource. Please consider this:
Stick around and give us another chance. Or you could just read for a while and avoid posting until you feel more comfortable doing so.
You also might re-read the rules. Some here are very adept at provoking without actually disobeying the rules....by doing this they can get others banned when they have caused the argument in the first place. When you're new, it's good to identify these people and avoid debating with them.
When I was new, this is exactly what happened to me. There were 2 people who tried to get me banned. After that I refused to talk to either of them. One subsequently was banned and the other is still here. Under no circumstances will I give him a chance to engage with me. You can do that too.
If there are people here who upset you, just ignore them.
Arguments on WP don't bother me. Sometimes I see posts that are nothing but insults and a lot of the time they don't leave much of an impression. Whenever threads like this appear I question the posts that are mostly insults more. I question the claims people make about the site too.
Every once in a while something someone posts bothers me enough and prompts me to post lots of strong criticism but it doesn't happen too often. I like rational debates without stupid insults. There's no need for pettiness.
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OP, one disagreement isn't a good enough reason to hate us all. I've had slight disagreements with a few members here, I just confronted them/got over it, respectively. This is a really good forum, and most people here are friendly and supportive.
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Well, your thread insisting that Garyww was attacking you in a thread created before you even joined was a little weird; I don't think that helped matters much.
Garyww seems to be a rather cynical sort of person. It seems rather odd to leave because he doesn't like you. If being persecuted makes you feel better, be my guest, I guess.
The conversation is over; let's allow this rant to disappear instead of continuing to feed it.
M.
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pro at that already.
Whimsi-Cal,
it's not a lot who aren't nice,but the uncalled for judgemental,nasty and discriminative users [whether it's realised or not]-are probably some of the most 'vocal' on wp,complain to mods [Sinsboldy,Lau etc] if it comes under the [[personal attacks]] part of rules.
remember,those who have given judgemental/nasty comments or attacks to self are judging on a thread rather than on knowing self offline-that says more about them-rather than self or the whole community.
as for garyww,he seems like a good user,he's done some difficult threads,but there could be a lot of misunderstandings and differences getting caught up,maybe would need to ask garyww if do not like/understand something he has said.
stay with the community as no other member has more rights than self to be here.
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pro at that already.
Whimsi-Cal,
it's not a lot who aren't nice,but the uncalled for judgemental,nasty and discriminative users [whether it's realised or not]-are probably some of the most 'vocal' on wp,complain to mods [Sinsboldy,Lau etc] if it comes under the [[personal attacks]] part of rules.
remember,those who have given judgemental/nasty comments or attacks to self are judging on a thread rather than on knowing self offline-that says more about them-rather than self or the whole community.
as for garyww,he seems like a good user,he's done some difficult threads,but there could be a lot of misunderstandings and differences getting caught up,maybe would need to ask garyww if do not like/understand something he has said.
stay with the community as no other member has more rights than self to be here.
well said KOR
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Sometimes people create a personality/avatar on WP - make a whole lot of ruccus, then either leave in a huff or get banned for less than ok behaviour, inappropriate posting, breaking rules etc. etc.
sometimes they then come back under a different avatar name (not against any rules) and do it again. i do not consider that a problem.
Sometimes they come back AGAIN and AGAIN as one avatar after another avatar...and they start getting confused about what they said to others and when, and what was said to them and when. so they drag up issues that pertain or relate to their communications from the vantage point of one of their old avatars. and it all gets a little messy and a little confusing.
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![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I use my real name here, and have a link to my real life here - so what one sees is what one gets.
garyww does the same. As do a fair few other people.
what you see is what you get.
I'd prefer that to the BS of coming back over and over again with all those confusingly different avatars and associated thread histories, wth the same antics that inflame and really get a bit tiring.
i'd prefer transparency over BS any day.
and i hope Whimsi-Cal gets on the appropriate meds which can help with an even keel.
thread killed?
Just one of the many wonders of being autistic.
It was a thread entitled, "Fun with idiots" and it was posted within the last couple of days. Just after he singled me out to post an off-topic, unnecessary insult based on what I had honestly wrote down as a bad life experience. He even mentioned that he looked at my profile and then used that to start harassing me. His other threads might have been posted long ago, but they sure were bounced to the top very recently. I have 0 patience for explaining things to illiterate irrational people who can't even see nor read between the lines.
For someone with an admitted low IQ (garyww) it is ironic that he is referring to other people as idiots. Its also ironic that a man who claims that he cannot find the play button on the video has a Myspace page. It doesn't seem to stop him from friending under-aged girls, now does it? Well Garyww you wanted to incite me into a perseverated obsessive state. You've got me there but I do not think you will like it.
Lets say a racist has a past of calling people the N-word and the certain racist, oh lets call him Gary for example, goes and starts another confrontation with a black person. Isn't it kind of missing the point if you tell the victim that Gary posted some of his hatred towards N-words before the black person moved in? Hello, wake up! You think he posts all this stuff about undiagnosed / new people and somehow think he is innocent and not targeting anyone in particular. Please! Some of you people seriously lack vision.
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Sometimes people create a personality/avatar on WP - make a whole lot of ruccus, then either leave in a huff or get banned for less than ok behaviour, inappropriate posting, breaking rules etc. etc.
sometimes they then come back under a different avatar name (not against any rules) and do it again. i do not consider that a problem.
Sometimes they come back AGAIN and AGAIN as one avatar after another avatar...and they start getting confused about what they said to others and when, and what was said to them and when. so they drag up issues that pertain or relate to their communications from the vantage point of one of their old avatars. and it all gets a little messy and a little confusing.
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I use my real name here, and have a link to my real life here - so what one sees is what one gets.
garyww does the same. As do a fair few other people.
what you see is what you get.
I'd prefer that to the BS of coming back over and over again with all those confusingly different avatars and associated thread histories, wth the same antics that inflame and really get a bit tiring.
i'd prefer transparency over BS any day.
and i hope Whimsi-Cal gets on the appropriate meds which can help with an even keel.
thread killed?
You're welcome to read through my posts and find the moment Garyww singled me out for no reason. I have no doubt you've probably alienated other people off of the board and assume that I'm one of them, but you're wrong. Problem happens a lot but you lack the rationality to realize it.
Look in the left hand corner, wrong planet, I assume you do too my friend. Are you an idiot or a hypocrite? I don't know why some of you even bother. You're going to get pwned.
WP really is a wonderful resource. Please consider this:
Stick around and give us another chance. Or you could just read for a while and avoid posting until you feel more comfortable doing so.
You also might re-read the rules. Some here are very adept at provoking without actually disobeying the rules....by doing this they can get others banned when they have caused the argument in the first place. When you're new, it's good to identify these people and avoid debating with them.
When I was new, this is exactly what happened to me. There were 2 people who tried to get me banned. After that I refused to talk to either of them. One subsequently was banned and the other is still here. Under no circumstances will I give him a chance to engage with me. You can do that too.
If there are people here who upset you, just ignore them.
Yes. That is the problem too. They are vague and indirect. They've been around the block and know exactly how far to push before its "too far". As with most of life the person who catches the most flak is the one retaliating. He wanted to incite me but he isn't going to like it. I'll get even one way or another.
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"Safe"? Can anyone of us do any harm? Can anyone fire from your job? Can any inflict on you physical harm? Extreme unlikely!
The worst thing which can happen in a internet forum is an answer you do not like. But this no harm at all. We all hear answers we do not like, but to cope with this is basic survival skill for any human being. If you can't do it, you should learn it - very quickly!
"You"? All of us? Regardless the problematic term "bad people": Do you know all of us? I would be more than surprised!
"Safe"? Can anyone of us do any harm? Can anyone fire from your job? Can any inflict on you physical harm? Extreme unlikely!
The worst thing which can happen in a internet forum is an answer you do not like. But this no harm at all. We all hear answers we do not like, but to cope with this is basic survival skill for any human being. If you can't do it, you should learn it - very quickly!
"You"? All of us? Regardless the problematic term "bad people": Do you know all of us? I would be more than surprised!
Safe has more then one meaning my friend. Let me clarify. I do not feel safe explaining my situation because people here have demonstrated they will use this knowledge against me. Which is utter BS.
I hate you ALL, and its a deep and seething hatred. People are all scum, NT, ASD ...doesn't matter.
"you ALL"... that includes me, right? I can't remember the last time someone expressed a deep and seething hatred toward me; usually I just get indifference. I feel special now.
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Special? You're HERE aren't you? Special just like Garyww who can't find the play button (according to him) on a video but sure as Hell can friend underage girls on Myspace.
M.
LOL. Actually I did tell Garyww I wasn't going to argue with him but he insisted upon it.
You just gotta realise that when you post something about problems, there's gonna be different opinions. Some you won't like. And if people are cross examining you by digging up info to bring you down. Just ignore them. They're probably the type of people that sit in their room all day and just stew on their biterness of being complete failures at life.
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Whimsi-Cal
Seriously, forget about it. If I sat there and let all the garyww in my life get to me the way you are allowing yours to get to you, I wouldn't accomplish much. You don't want to end up being this icy cold troll who is evil, hateful, and bitter. That's the result of vindictive behavior: we become the person we set out to destroy.
Look at your posts. You are getting nothing but negative feedback from it. I think it's just adding fuel to the fire with you.
You are seeking something you are not getting.
It's like you want a soda from McDonalds. You may think it's ridiculous to charge 1.50 for that soda when it probably costed them all of 50 cents to make it, at the very most, but if you want that soda from that place, you will have to pay 1.50. In this case, we may all be stupid to not have your back or recognize what is going on, but if you want us to be loving and caring in all our words, then maybe you need to approach the situation differently.
I still think your best bet is to call garyww out when you see it happen, on the post you see happen. Like in the case of his "fun with idiots," I would have posted on there, hey, you best not be meaning this about me as a result of our conversation elsewhere. Then if he doesn't respond at all, then who cares. Seriously, what harm is it to you at this point what he says. I didn't think it was about you at all when I read that thread. It kinda didn't totally make sense to me what he was saying, but I figured it to mean more like a conversation about Aspies becoming obsessed with their arguments more so than NT's. You know why? Nt's could really care less about what some jerk off on the internet has to say. To be honest, I don't really care either. I do enjoy conversation, and I will get into a debate, but when some guy has something negative to say about me, who freaking cares? The way I look at it, nobody on this forum ain't got s**t on me. You need to wake up and realize ain't nobody got s**t on you. Just be yourself and ignore the haters.
Being "safe" or not is not matter of feelings, but of the probability of the inflection of harm. If your feelings are not in line with the objective probability as can be demonstrated by facts, than you need to adjust your feelings to real possibility of harm.
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