Why do most people with AS believe in UFOs?

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30 Mar 2009, 2:56 pm

To see a light moving in the sky and say, "I wonder what that is," is to react normally to an Unidentified Flying Object (UFO).

To see a light moving in the sky and say, "I wonder what those aliens are up to now," is to react abnormally and out of ignorance to the same phenomenon.

I will never understand why anyone would see a UFO, and not only claim that it is of alien design and manufacture, but then go on to describe what the aliens look like, where they come from, why they are here, and what their native culture is like.

Isn't it enough to watch the pretty lights move in the sky without requiring that an alien civilization be behind each one?



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30 Mar 2009, 3:32 pm

The existence of UFOs is pretty much a foregone conclusion. There have been too many reports from too many trustworthy sources for all of them to be hallucinations or fabrications.

What UFOs are--they're probably multiple things--is still up in the air. That's why we call them "unidentified". They may or may not be alien spaceships. I tend to think they're not--something human in origin or some natural phenomenon we haven't studied yet seems more likely.


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30 Mar 2009, 3:35 pm

Fnord wrote:
To see a light moving in the sky and say, "I wonder what that is," is to react normally to an Unidentified Flying Object (UFO).

To see a light moving in the sky and say, "I wonder what those aliens are up to now," is to react abnormally and out of ignorance to the same phenomenon.

I will never understand why anyone would see a UFO, and not only claim that it is of alien design and manufacture, but then go on to describe what the aliens look like, where they come from, why they are here, and what their native culture is like.

Isn't it enough to watch the pretty lights move in the sky without requiring that an alien civilization be behind each one?


I just wanted to say something. I have seen a lot of strange lights in the sky but there were two times in daylight that I've seen craft. Take it from someone who worked at an airport for some time. I know what planes look like in the sky.



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30 Mar 2009, 3:35 pm

'Most people with AS believe in UFOs'?

We do? That's news to me. Clearly this is an AS trait that is missing from my life.



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30 Mar 2009, 4:27 pm

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The evolution of intelligent Life on Earth is a bit of a fluke and would require an almost impossible set of circumstances; the ingredients for creating life however are fairly common everywhere, so life may exist elsewhere but it might be only microbes or basic animals.


This is certainly what current biology suggests but you should not draw any such conclusion. This conclusion is drawn simply because modern biology cannot find an explanation, therefore it is postulated that the circumstances for it arising must be very limited. However, I feel a more credible hypothesis is that biology does not have the answer because modern biology contains some fundamental flaws (primarily dubious status of genes). This suggests to me that biology cannot provide much of a secure answer either way, rather than assuming this failure is only explained by extremely rare initial conditions required for life.

That said, I've always found UFOs piloted by aliens extremely difficult to believe because modern technology would have found them years ago, given that modern radar can pinpoint anything bigger than an apple without too much difficulty, providing we are watching a sparse enough area (the upper atmosphere for existence). Of course, you can appeal to conspiracy but I just cannot believe that someone major has not blown the lid on it. With time, the political and military personal will age and new people come into the system. Surely at least a few of them, when they first encounter this evidence (and certainly evidence for contact between humans and aliens) would feel it worth mentioning. Or if they did not want to ruin their career, why not wait until they retire or indeed are dying, achieve lasting fame by revealing the truth to the world. I'm fairly convinced that, at least at some point before I die, I would try and get this material out into the public if I were sufficiently important, say a general or major politician. Could Bush have turned round the republican party’s and his own fortunes by finally being the party and person who reveals the truth to the public? Sure it would have helped.



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31 Mar 2009, 12:28 pm

As others have said, yes, I do believe in unidentified flying objects ;) I've seen many myself...but I've never seen the stereotypical "super fast" colored lights or anything fun like that =/

As for whether or not they're aliens from outer-space, well...Idunno...I've read The Mothman Prophecies, and there's so many different theories in there, and so many crazy happenings that contradict each other, that by the end, you have no idea what anything means anymore, if it ever meant anything to begin with.

But UFOs have certainly been around much longer than man-made aircraft have (witchfires, thunderbirds, etc.), so that only adds to the mystery.

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...modern radar can pinpoint anything bigger than an apple without too much difficulty...


UFOs do show up on radar.


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31 Mar 2009, 4:56 pm

I've seen some thing that are best described a paranormal. I do believe in alien life, it's a big uni/multiverse. I also belive in the otherworldly, but I don't attemp to define it.


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31 Mar 2009, 5:05 pm

How could anyone in their right mind believe in something that hasn't been proven to be real?



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31 Mar 2009, 5:09 pm

After watching a few documentaries on Area-51 I knew I had to stop because I could feel it becoming an obsession.
The reason I found them so intriguing was because I've always loved conspiracies. I think this is because of my constant rejection of mainstream, and general hatred towards conventional beliefs. It didn't matter if they were real, as long as it proved everyone wrong :P.
But I don't think you should make the assumption people who know a lot about the subjects actually believe them all. I know a lot of conspiracies, and not all of them I believe.
But, yeah. You clearly don't know that much about what you're talking about. You can tell that by looking at the topic. If an Aspie were to believe in such things as the green-big-black-eyed-stereotypical-aliens we all see on TV(which I DOUBT he/she would), they definitely would know the correct terminology, and if you were to actually listen to them, you'd notice they'd NEVER used the term UFO in the flying-saucer sense, and if they do, then they don't know a lot too and are probably bsing you.
Again, I highly doubt any Aspie would believe in the stereotypical definition of an alien, though it really does depend how you define, 'alien'(which again, you seem to be wrong with your terminology, seeing as the primary definition of an alien is a foreigner), Apple's thesaurus for the word Alien;
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1 an alien landscape unfamiliar, unknown, strange, peculiar; exotic, foreign. antonym familiar.
2 a vicious role alien to his nature incompatible with, unusual for, opposed to, conflicting with, contrary to, in conflict with, at variance with, out of step with; rare oppugnant to. antonym familiar.
3 alien beings extraterrestrial, unearthly, otherworldly; Martian, Jovian, Venutian. antonym earthly.
noun
1 an illegal alien foreigner, nonnative, immigrant, emigrant, émigré.
2 the alien's spaceship extraterrestrial, ET; Martian, Jovian, Venutian; informal little green man.
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Under the 3rd definition, no. I've never met _anyone_ over the age of 8 years old to believe in a, 'little green man', and those who believe in sophisticated life forms out of Earth, over the age 8, know full well that the likely hood of them being with-in our solar system is incredibly slim.
I'm not making the assumption Aspies are clever and thus would not believe such nonsense, but that Aspies aren't complete idiots who are all the same.
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31 Mar 2009, 5:56 pm

There is no such thing as UFOs.

We are the only life in the entire Universe.

They are not green, they are gray.



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31 Mar 2009, 6:01 pm

Inventor wrote:
There is no such thing as UFOs.

We are the only life in the entire Universe.

They are not green, they are gray.

You can't say that without any certainty.
There's already a lot of evidence saying that life was(and maybe in the future is[http://google.com/virgle/]) sustainable on Mars, due to high levels of methane which can only be explained by living organisms.
Also, if they 'don't exist' then how can you specify what colour a non-existent object is?(You can't).
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13 Apr 2009, 9:15 am

When I was younger, I was obssessed with anything involving aliens, UFOs and the supernatural. I think it was partly coz I was uncontrollably curious as to the question of "whether or not we are alone in the universe" but also coz there was simply so much interesting information to immerse myself in. It was an interest that I didn't need anyone else to pursue.

I am of course still willing to believe in the existance of another intelligent species somewhere out there. However I'm no longer obssessive to the point that it rules my life. I do sometimes tend tro be rather like Mr. Toad from Wind in the Willows, as he has passing fads that never last. The only difference being my fads last for years at a time.


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13 Apr 2009, 10:15 am

I saw something with two other witnesses last year that was definitely not any manner of known flying craft but was definitely some manner of craft. It was black and rectangular and tracked perfectly and slowly through the sky.

Yes, I believe in them now. This doesn't preclude that they may be entirely terrestrial in origin.



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13 Apr 2009, 12:21 pm

why do i believe in ufo's? because ancheint people believed in them too, they just called them angels. also in france they painted them on there cave walls. so either everyone is having the same hullucination for thousands of years, or they are real. the reason why we dont see them or have any "evidence" is because the governement is covering it up. could you imagine what would happen if there was infact evidence of other beings? out goes religion. (we are no longer gods special creation) if religion goes you will have mass chaos on this planet. most people need religon and to think there gods special creation to function


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13 Apr 2009, 12:42 pm

Do in fact most Aspies think there are UFO's? :alien:


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13 Apr 2009, 1:33 pm

-x-x-ANONYMOUS-x-x-, I'd say possibly it might be due to having a great amount of abstract reasoning, even if believing in such seems outlandish so, was the idea that there was Black Holes until the 1970's such phenomenon were proven to be valid.Mind you thought whether there is alien life out there is a matter of debate but, one can't take away the belief of disbelief of people for, that makes us up as people in a general sense.



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