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TobyZ
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18 Apr 2009, 6:42 am

sjamaan wrote:
Maybe by being aware of this problem, we can consciously assign a "black" or "white" color to just this one aspect of the person, without directly and irrevocably assigning that same color to the person as a whole. As more datapoints come in, the person gets more "patches" filled in, allowing us to dynamically count off the total number of white minus the total number of black whenever we wish to assess the person as a whole, so to speak :)

Or maybe I'm just talking nonsense...


You make sense, but you aren't getting the "at what price" and the side effects.

Unlike normal emotional people (NT) where this is automatic, you are doing it with your mind. It is a "fake". It is a LOT OF WORK. expect to see:

-- sharp edges
-- not flexible to reshape it
-- EXHAUSTING, wears your intellect. Like a car with only one gear on the transmission working, you are overusing the intellectual part of the mind.
-- Emotionally draining, perhaps creating more stress for you that may appear hours or days later.

The way you describe colors is exactly how computer graphics do 3D models. A mesh has colors on each element (polygon). This is fake, not like taking a photograph of a real world object.

In some ways "fake" is better, movies like Toy Story. Aspies often do some things exceptionally well. But look again at the list of issues.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try, but you also have to face that a "tin man can't really have a real heart".

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon_mesh



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18 Apr 2009, 7:48 am

TobyZ wrote:
Unlike normal emotional people (NT) where this is automatic, you are doing it with your mind. It is a "fake". It is a LOT OF WORK.


Um, I have to do this in enough other situations where it causes much bigger problems.

TobyZ wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't try, but you also have to face that a "tin man can't really have a real heart".


Story of my life :(



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18 Apr 2009, 11:31 am

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But: I am a strong smoker, not that I am not aware about the danger of smoking, but I smoke.


You can smoke and do what you want in your life as long as it does not affect me, its just that i would NEVER associate myself with you in real life because of this fact, even if we could end up talking about programming and/or sciense for hours. I have tried to include some people with smoking habits in my life, but i my allergies wouldnt allow me to keep up those relationships.

Dussel wrote:
Also: Look at yourself. I would be more than just surprised if anyone would find something very stupid with your behaviour. Prima facie that are not aware about the complexity of human behaviour.


I am almost sure that i am pissing of someone with something i do in life. I cannot please everyone, and trying to do that compromise my ideals to the point where i could be replaced by an autonomous bot with no opinion about anything.


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18 Apr 2009, 11:44 am

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I hate it how people say you're stupid if you smoke. Keep an open mind.


Obviously you missed the whole "i have allergies and cannot stand people who smoke" post i posted earlier. I cannot be in the same room as them, there is a reason behind all this, i didnt make up my opinion by rolling some dice.

Here in Sweden we have a second form of popular nicotine called "snus" (Snuff) that comes in small "teabags" that you put under your lip, but i have no problem with it. It is probably cancerous and all that, but it does not affect me. It looks ugly, but it is not my problem.

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I wouldn't even care if they took drugs. If they had a drug problem maybe I would bring up that they needed to deal with it.


That is different, they are only affecting themselves. That does not bother me either as much, but i wouldnt want to be with someone (girlfriend-wise) who damaged herself and by her actions risked being thrown into jail. That is not what i am after in a (girlfriend-)relationship.

pensieve wrote:
I remember in my christian days my best friend was an atheist.


I clearly said political/religious extremists - not "anyone".

I used to work side by side in school with a muslim woman. She was one of the most reasonable, moderated religious persons i have ever known. But then, she wasnt walking around in a burqa or with religious symbol around her neck.

I can get friends, its just so that i have problems associating myself with most people. Example: on one of my jobs (small corporation), everyone - and i do mean everyone, was playing golf. Didnt have anything to talk about with them except "Hello" and "Goodby" :roll:

I rather have friends with quality than friends in quantity.


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