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14 Jan 2007, 7:27 pm

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What would someone with the opposite of autism / Asperger's Syndrome be like?


Sort of like my ideal girl at this point--though I wouldn't like it to the degree that it becomes another psychiatric syndrome, and have other criteria as well. I don't think there is just one type of "inverse autism"--it's not a one-dimensional classification.

There was this guy living it the room next door my last year in college dorms that seemed almost comically inverse-autistic. He was a business student and absolutely loved to chat with anyone and everyone, but apart from that didn't seem to have many interests (aside from sneaking up on people and saying "boo"--the funniest thing about him was that he kept "booing" his roommates about once a day for more than a whole semester, long past the point where it was new and interesting). I could tell that he found me amusing too, I guess because I didn't play along with the kind of social "games" he was trying to get me to play and that most other people joined into.

However, I think that "inverse autistic" people range from boisterous fun-loving chatters like this guy, to very sweet, sensitive types, to "bitchy" manipulative people. It depends on their personalities and other psychological traits. It's sort of like "what's the opposite of a lawyer?" Well, in one way you could say "a doctor", if you're trying to choose between these career paths, but on the other hand these occupations are both high-paying and require an advanced degree, so maybe "a plumber" could also be an answer, etc.

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sociopathy can be seen as a sort of inverse-autism, in which the so-called "mirror neuron" functions and mind-reading skills work better than those of most nonautistics, but these people's ethical sensibilities seem to be inactive.


I thought that sociopathy was pretty much the utter absence of empathy, but maybe that's more psychopathy. I'm not that familiar with how these are similar or different.



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15 Jan 2007, 12:45 am

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Hmmm. I thought the opposite of Asperger's was Paris Hilton. *ducks*

:lol:


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Btw Paris has said on record that she has ADD.



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15 Jan 2007, 1:38 pm

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Bland-Come to find out she was the biggest class slut there was; the main instigator and participant in all of the orgies and such. But she was so innocent of mind and sweet, not too smart, though, I never would have guessed and I can smell a pervert a mile away! I dont know if she had Williams Syndrome or not but she was very pretty, friendly and sweet. I wonder if she even realized what she was doing?


Wow, judgmental much? Innocence/sweetness and sexuality are not mutually exclusive, you know. In fact it is the truly innocent mind that fully enjoys sex and sees nothing wrong with it; it's only the corrupt mind that finds ugliness in it and comes up with ugly and cruel names like "slut" in order to denigrate the free ones who revel in their sexuality.



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15 Jan 2007, 10:41 pm

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Someone mentioned "politician's syndrome"...sociopathy can be seen as a sort of inverse-autism, in which the so-called "mirror neuron" functions and mind-reading skills work better than those of most nonautistics, but these people's ethical sensibilities seem to be inactive. And many politicians are thought to be "mildly" sociopathic (if you can say such a thing.)

Of course, because neurology is so multidimensional, it's hard to pinpoint a single opposite to anything. There are too many ways you can slice the pie.

Psychopaths lack the empathy and feelings of social obligation that would constitute a highly social opposite of a person with Asperger's syndrome. Psychopaths also typically show executive function problems just as do those with ADHD or Asperger's syndrome quite often—at least the psychopaths who wind up in prison usually do.

One area where psychopaths and people with Asperger's syndrome are opposites are in the psychopaths' ability to manipulate and deceive people to advance their agenda. They tend to be very good at this and began manipulating their parents or guardians and teachers as young children. Tricking people makes psychopaths feel exhilarated and powerful.



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28 Jan 2007, 9:17 pm

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That's easy. The opposite of Asperger's syndrome is Politician's syndrome or, more colloquially,
Bush's syndrome. :wink:

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I don't, actually; you've hit the nail on the head...as I have before (but don't expect it to be discussed).



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28 Jan 2007, 11:01 pm

gwynfryn wrote:
wandrew wrote:
That's easy. The opposite of Asperger's syndrome is Politician's syndrome or, more colloquially,
Bush's syndrome. :wink:

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I don't, actually; you've hit the nail on the head...as I have before (but don't expect it to be discussed).


"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George W. Bush


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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28 Jan 2007, 11:09 pm

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I would say ADD/ADHD would be an opposite of AS. AS is a condition of hyperfocus. I have heard some people are diagnosed with both, but to me, they seem complete opposites. Any attention issues with AS to me seem related to overstimulation, not simply inattentiveness. People with AD(H)D are said to be highly coordinated, sometimes even very athletic, while people with AS are said to be clumsy and awkward. (I think Roger Bannister defeated that stereotype of AS.)


Well turns out people with ADHD can hyperfocus on things they enjoy to. And people with ADHD often have social skills problems to.



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29 Jan 2007, 12:33 am

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"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George W. Bush


Bush really said that?



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29 Jan 2007, 12:36 am

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"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George W. Bush


Bush really said that?


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... ushism.htm



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29 Jan 2007, 3:49 am

Self-rightious.



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29 Jan 2007, 7:33 am

ACTUALLY, he might have simply meant that he had to do that to COUNTERACT(aka get rid of or "catapault") The propaganda.

FRANKLY, a self directed savings account could work. Social Security, created by the DEMOCRATS, is a BIG scam!! !! !! They couldn't do that, so they had to STEAL from the next generation! And they keep doing that! EVEN WORSE, they raise all the rates so that the later generations have to pay more PER PERSON! MY generation will probably be the first where the big house of cards COLLAPSES!! !! !!

Talk about propaganda! They can't even hide it anymore, so they talk like this was ALWAYS the way it was supposed to work! It WASN'T! The idea was that SOCSEC was to be invested in a US treasury account FOR THAT PERSON, and they would get an income that was LIVABLE, and BELOW the income! Today, it seems to be invested nowhere, is used for ANYTHING and paid to ANYONE even ILLEGAL aliens! The amount is NOT livable, and is ABOVE the income(which is why they keep stealing)!

BTW even DEMOCRATS admit most of this when pressed. They use these facts in their campaigns! THEY advocate changing laws to make it more of a scam. The rest(like raising rates, etc...) I found by checking to see what was paid historically. My uncle paid a LOT smaller percentage than I did, and thinks socsec is a great deal. YEP, it is a great deal for HIM because they are stealing from ME to pay him. OK, who will they steal from to pay me? Will they raise retirement age to 90+, like they have threatened? We KNOW they will raise rates!

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30 Jan 2007, 3:03 pm

Initially I thought of something similar to Archimedes' original post. Someone with strong interpersonal skills. Good communicator, chatty, active social life. To that I'd add they can talk about anything, have a wide range of conversartion topics.

Then I realised that because people with Asperger's present in different ways, so must people with an "inverse Asperger" profile. Such as the kind of glib personality that Cade described. And the Politician Syndrome types, and salesperson types, and prima donna and Pollyanna types that have been mentioned.

As well as those prima donna types, bullies in their many forms are surely as extreme opposites of Aspies as you'll find. They have the social skills and intuition that Aspies find challenging, but which they use the wrong way, for their own ends, to manipulate.



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30 Jan 2007, 3:26 pm

I'm sick and tired of old threads being revived.


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30 Jan 2007, 9:38 pm

I thought it was Bill clinton's disease

'cause he is smooth and socially adept

Bush may be dumb as dirt (sorry 'bout that, dirt!), but no one would call him smooth



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31 Jan 2007, 6:15 am

9CatMom wrote:
I would say ADD/ADHD would be an opposite of AS. AS is a condition of hyperfocus. I have heard some people are diagnosed with both, but to me, they seem complete opposites. Any attention issues with AS to me seem related to overstimulation, not simply inattentiveness. People with AD(H)D are said to be highly coordinated, sometimes even very athletic, while people with AS are said to be clumsy and awkward. (I think Roger Bannister defeated that stereotype of AS.)


While I skim through the internet, I happen to see that a lot of people mention AS and ADHD in one breath, I don't know why actually.



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Exact opposite: Basically, an extroverted partygoer who drinks all his/her brain cells away with alcohol, gets on the dance floor and winds up cleaning the toilet in McDonalds.


lol...actually, working at McDonald's isn't so bad if you're short on finances and you don't have the money to go to college. That's what I'm doing - I couldn't afford school any longer because I had a nervous breakdown from the meds I was taking for ADHD and Bipolar II (which it turns out I was misdiagnosed with) and I actually find that I'm better with hands-on type of things. Which is funny, because I was misdiagnosed with AS and bipolar when I was 14 (AS was confirmed a misdiagnosis when I was 19; Bipolar when I was 21) and people with AS are usually not better with hands-on type things as I am. It's interesting, I'm actually the exact opposite of Asperger's in every way; I'm deeply empathetic and extremely social. But then again, a lot of people with AS are actually very empathetic and highly social. And I've met and studied a lot of people who were misdiagnosed with AS who have characteristics similar to AS, but lack the cognitive deviations of autism. And you can't have the AS without the autism, so in this case it's a misdiagnosis. It's not like there's such a thing as 'Asperger-affective disorder', where someone has characteristics similiar to AS but without the cognitive idiosyncrasies of autism. So if it's purely behavioral, then it's a misdiagnosis. AS should be classified as HFA if one has the cognitive aspects of autism; but even people with the true cognitive aspects of autism can outgrow these characteristics. The people who were misdiagnosed as AS had just been going through an awkward stage during adolescence (and who doesn't; it's such a transitional time with a lot of stupid peer pressure), and in some cases people, like me, were able to outgrow such characteristics within a year or 3 years. So it can be outgrown.

But really, I'm the exact opposite of AS; I'm extremely empathetic, am very good at reading people, deeply intuitive and perceptive when it comes to reading people, and am extremely social and hyperactive. But I've also met and studied a lot of people with AS who are deeply empathetic and are very good socially. So even people with AS are socially-adjusted.