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29 May 2009, 7:54 pm

Link please?

This is all really ringing true for me.



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29 May 2009, 8:06 pm

Í read the whole list and I'm still in awe. It's as if this person had known me all my life.


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30 May 2009, 4:14 am

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Social characteristics of asperger's disorder:

1-difficulty in accepting criticism or correction, this symptom is usually mild to moderate.............in my youth this was so very true, i would not like you very much if you criticized me, as i got older, it regressed

Yup. Same. I don't like it either.

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2- difficulty in offering correction or criticism without appearing harsh, pendantic, or insensitive...this symptom is usually moderate to severe...............again in my youth, i was terrible at directing criticism, trying to make people seem foolish or stupid on purpose.again, as i got older, i learned the fine touch of giving constructive, diplomatic criticism

more tommorow

Prolly same here too.

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3-pouting, ruminating, fixating on bad experiences with people or events for an INORDINATE length of time........this symptom is moderate to severe.....................omg, lol............until i was about 35 yrs old i had a big chip on my shoulder, lol....i could never let go, or forgive anyone who had injured me in any way, or injured my family.....i would keep the fire alive and even resort to petty and vindictive acts to nurture and keep me boiling, lol....THANKFULLY, one day in revelation, i broke down into tears and prayed to god, and i asked that everyone forgive me for my actions and i forgave everyone who had harmed me......let me tell you, such a weight was lifted off me and a crushing burden disappeared..................hatred is an awful thing, forgiveness is soooo sweet and infectious.....don't be a dummie like me and wait until you are 35 frikin yrs old, rofl

Yup that could prolly be interpreted as a chip on the shoulder. I used to think about stuff all the time. I ruminated too. Obsessed. I always see the bad in the experience and not the good. Sometimes I doubt there is a good.
This is an outstanding characteristic of mine.
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4-abrupt and STRONG expressions of likes and dislikes......mild to moderate symptom...........this is me all the way................i either REALLY LIKE something or someone.......or i REALLY DISLIKE something or someone.......not many in betweens....i am still like that though i try to tame the dislikes, lol

keep it rolling

I tend to go more with expressing the "dislike" but it depends on the mood. I complain all the time.
Yep those sound like me too!



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30 May 2009, 5:34 am

I have both traits 3 and 4 definitly. 3, moderatly 4, mild-moderatly.
I find alot of the people I know are in 2 groups: angels and devils, and if there is one little thing about someone I don't like, I don't like the person which is annoying when I'm trying to make friends and potential friends I rule out because they're too preppy or something. There are a few exeptions, only a few though.


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30 May 2009, 9:24 am

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^^ Yaaaaye, I believe I am blessed by these symptoms very happily indeed, and have certainly improved both a very large amount. ^^ I am have been greatly worry that I have been misdiagnosed with High Functioning Autism as my cildy self differs greatly from my current self, yet those two traits describe myself very happily indeed I believe. ^^ I now wish to accept criticism very well, as I believe I understand so many matters greater now than when I was a child (I was horrible I believe).


I had the exact same problem when i was younger. I was misdiagnosed with high functioning autism and it ruined my life. Even though the diagnosis did not apply to me after age 6, even though I mainstreamed and was in honors classes in high school graduating top %30 of my class, my mom "carried" it into my adult life. I eventually was diagnosed with Asperger's at age 20, but because there was not enough information about asperger's, when I needed help in finding how to straighten out my life where I only wanted and needed a career assessment,(not a day program agency for autistic and mentally ret*d people), I was considered diagnosed with high functioning autism and I was put into the Autism agency day/residential program. Because of that, I received inappropriate services that caused me to have emotional problems and nervous breakdowns, because I needed more independence, not people controlling and/or assisting me in my life. Also because of the "mistaken" diagnosis, i had a horrible life of a mentally ret*d person who was bossed around into thinking I could not do anything and that I always needed assistance all my life. Especially at 18 when all the rest of my friend's parents let them do anything they wanted they way my friends wanted it, my mom would not allow that. She had to "control" the way i live my life and the way she wanted me to straightened out and figure out my life and not allow me that freedom. All that because of a mistaken diagnosis. This caused me to be depressed and have anxiety and put on medications, even thought I did not need them, I just needed my mother to "back" off and give me my freedom. By the time I went into that agency's group home, i lost all of my self-confidence and developed "learned helplessness". Well, back a few months ago, I was taken off medications because as I was more bale to express these issues, thanks to a new understanding therapist, I went to that psych medication doctor and it turned out I did not have depression and/or anxiety. Instead the symptoms were the cause of the "situation" I was put through, being in the group home agency and my mom "mistreating" and "misunderstanding' me and all of these people(including my bully housemates at the group home) putting me through hell. All of this because of a "misdiagnosis" of high functioning autism. I wish they had Asperger's back in 1982 because I would no have been through what I have been through. i wish I was born in 1990, not 1978.



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30 May 2009, 1:41 pm

sorry, no link to this....i found this research the good old fashioned way, in a library years ago


social symptons of asperger's

5- difficulty with adopting social masks to obscure real feelings and emotions...moderate to severe symptom......................this is me, blunt and to the point..i realize you must mask your feelings, but way back when,i used to say or think whatever was on my mind, lol...i know i pissed off and hurt a lot of people's feelings....i cannot help it, i don't beat around the bush

6- low to medium level of paranoia.......mild to moderate symptom................as a young one no, but as i got to high school, i began to be more suspicious of people...i trust some, but don't most....for the most part, any paranoia with me has been very mild


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30 May 2009, 2:42 pm

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1-difficulty in accepting criticism or correction, this symptom is usually mild to moderate.............in my youth this was so very true, i would not like you very much if you criticized me, as i got older, it regressed


I don’t mind criticism as long as you have a reasonable suggestion or recommendation. I hate people who criticize for the sake of criticizing.

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2- difficulty in offering correction or criticism without appearing harsh, pendantic, or insensitive...this symptom is usually moderate to severe...............again in my youth, i was terrible at directing criticism, trying to make people seem foolish or stupid on purpose.again, as i got older, i learned the fine touch of giving constructive, diplomatic criticism


I don’t criticize people unless they really get on my nerves and the only way in which I criticize is by asking a question.

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3-pouting, ruminating, fixating on bad experiences with people or events for an INORDINATE length of time........this symptom is moderate to severe.....................omg, lol............until i was about 35 yrs old i had a big chip on my shoulder, lol....i could never let go, or forgive anyone who had injured me in any way, or injured my family.....i would keep the fire alive and even resort to petty and vindictive acts to nurture and keep me boiling, lol....THANKFULLY, one day in revelation, i broke down into tears and prayed to god, and i asked that everyone forgive me for my actions and i forgave everyone who had harmed me......let me tell you, such a weight was lifted off me and a crushing burden disappeared..................hatred is an awful thing, forgiveness is soooo sweet and infectious.....don't be a dummie like me and wait until you are 35 frikin yrs old, rofl



Fire is the right word for it. Fire can be used for good as well as evil. There is nothing wrong with holding a grudge as long as you use it to better yourself instead of resorting to petty acts, and I’m never petty. Hate is a very good source of energy if used wisely. Edicts of religion are for people who are not mature or wise enough to re-direct their hate constructively.

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4-abrupt and STRONG expressions of likes and dislikes......mild to moderate symptom...........this is me all the way................i either REALLY LIKE something or someone.......or i REALLY DISLIKE something or someone.......not many in betweens....i am still like that though i try to tame the dislikes, lol


There really aren’t that many things that I strongly like or dislike. One thing that I strongly dislike is self-contradiction and one thing that I strongly like is honesty.

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5- difficulty with adopting social masks to obscure real feelings and emotions...moderate to severe symptom......................this is me, blunt and to the point..i realize you must mask your feelings, but way back when,i used to say or think whatever was on my mind, lol...i know i pissed off and hurt a lot of people's feelings....i cannot help it, i don't beat around the bush


Yep, that’s me. I LOVE honest people who say what’s in their mind as soon as it’s in their mind.

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6- low to medium level of paranoia.......mild to moderate symptom................as a young one no, but as i got to high school, i began to be more suspicious of people...i trust some, but don't most....for the most part, any paranoia with me has been very mild


That’s me also. The problem with trusting people is that most people can’t even predict what they themselves are going to do let alone me. I find most people are DID’ish (Dissociative identity disorder).



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31 May 2009, 6:04 am

Not sure if I have 5. Definately don't have 6 - I quite optimistic about people's intentions.



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31 May 2009, 7:53 am

I'm hopeless at masking how I feel, unless I have sufficient warning and then I think I just do a poker face, which probably isn't much improvement.

Paranoia has never been my thing... I'm more the completely oblivious type that can end up in a disasterous situation absolutely clueless. There is one situation in my life right now in which I'm paranoid... but is it paranoia when they really are scapegoating you? But mostly the folks I meet are decent, kind people and we just repeatedly misunderstand each other.



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I have all the symptoms thus far


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01 Jun 2009, 3:53 am

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sorry, no link to this....i found this research the good old fashioned way, in a library years ago

How about the book title then? I don't mind waiting until you've released these aspects in stages, but it would be good if the sources were revealed in the end. If that can't be done, so be it, and I don't mean to imply that your info is in any way dodgy - certainly at first glance it looks like pretty sound stuff - but revealing the sources would give the whole venture the externally-verifiable credibility it deserves.



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sorry, no link to this....i found this research the good old fashioned way, in a library years ago


social symptons of asperger's

5- difficulty with adopting social masks to obscure real feelings and emotions...moderate to severe symptom......................this is me, blunt and to the point..i realize you must mask your feelings, but way back when,i used to say or think whatever was on my mind, lol...i know i pissed off and hurt a lot of people's feelings....i cannot help it, i don't beat around the bush

6- low to medium level of paranoia.......mild to moderate symptom................as a young one no, but as i got to high school, i began to be more suspicious of people...i trust some, but don't most....for the most part, any paranoia with me has been very mild



5.yep

6.yep



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AnAutisticMind wrote:
sorry, no link to this....i found this research the good old fashioned way, in a library years ago

How about the book title then? I don't mind waiting until you've released these aspects in stages, but it would be good if the sources were revealed in the end. If that can't be done, so be it, and I don't mean to imply that your info is in any way dodgy - certainly at first glance it looks like pretty sound stuff - but revealing the sources would give the whole venture the externally-verifiable credibility it deserves.



sorry tough, i wrote it all down in longhand yrs ago....it is good stuff


social characteristics of asperger's disorder

7-failure to distinguish between private and public personal care
habits: i.e., brushing, public attention to skin problems, nose picking, teeth picking, ear canal cleaning, (lol) clothing arangement..........mild to moderate symptom.............i was a bad nose picker in my youth, did not give a rats butt if anyone saw, god I wish i could have changed that......also did not care if my clothes matched or looked good...............as i aged ,i got a little more GQ, lol...........i still cannot match clothes well and am a fashion idiot, lol...thank god i have a wife who isn't, lol



8- RIGID adherence to rules and social conventions where flexibility is desirable................mild to moderate symptom..............i do everything by the book and am not very flexible, however i will listen if someone protests


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1-difficulty in accepting criticism or correction, this symptom is usually mild to moderate.


Guilty. I long for corrective advice, but when I get it, I have a lot of trouble processing it, unless it's done with a huge amount of skill. Either I sense the other person just doesn't understand the full implications of my using their offered solution, or I take the criticism as an attack on my pride.

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2- difficulty in offering correction or criticism without appearing harsh, pendantic, or insensitive...this symptom is usually moderate to severe.


Guilty. Mostly I avoid giving criticism at all, for fear of offending. Occasionally I seem to find the right positive way to put it, but even then I don't like to do it because it feels phoney, as my original critical thoughts are essentially negative.

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3-pouting, ruminating, fixating on bad experiences with people or events for an INORDINATE length of time........this symptom is moderate to severe

Guilty. I think I'm getting better, but if somebody hurts me in a significant way then my resentment can last for decades. On the other hand, I don't recall much in the way of remorse from the cuplrits, and it'd be interesting to see whether it would help if they did. I always imagine it would make a big difference. As would firm action to make amends, delivered in ways that were meaningful to me.

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4-abrupt and STRONG expressions of likes and dislikes......mild to moderate symptom

Guilty-ish......my loves and hates are pretty intense on the whole, though there are some things and people I like or dislike in a limited way, and there are some things and people I see both good and bad in. But then I usually detest the bad parts and love the good.

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5- difficulty with adopting social masks to obscure real feelings and emotions...moderate to severe symptom

I hate to have to feign emotions, though I do cover a lot of the negative ones up. I refuse to use the term "guilty" about myself over this one because I approve of my emotional honesty (such as it is, with all the concealment that I do) and don't wish to join the NTs in their active pretense, as it always seems unseemly and indecent to me. And I feel guilty and frustrated about not feeling able to wear my heart on my sleeve at all times.

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6- low to medium level of paranoia.......mild to moderate symptom.

Guilty......it takes a lot to get me to trust anybody about anything. In fact I barely know how it could feel to "know" that somebody won't let me down. In my mind, I'm (at best) taking "reasonable risks" with people (and things), and there are instances when I feel that a particular person would be very unlikely to let me down in some or other particular defined way. I guess I'm pretty paranoid by conventional standards, though most of the time my coping strategies allow me to habitually cover most of the bases, so I can usually keep fairly calm. But when I notice a small crack in my defenses, that can really scare me. I can't relate to people who expect trust ("what's the matter, don't you trust me?") - how the hell do I know what they're going to do? I don't think I'm paranoid in the strict sense of the word, i.e. being convinced people are plotting to destroy me - it's more a case of "when in doubt, if it's important, play it safe." And I know what a powerful thing trust can be between people.



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01 Jun 2009, 12:44 pm

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AnAutisticMind wrote:
sorry, no link to this....i found this research the good old fashioned way, in a library years ago

How about the book title then? I don't mind waiting until you've released these aspects in stages, but it would be good if the sources were revealed in the end. If that can't be done, so be it, and I don't mean to imply that your info is in any way dodgy - certainly at first glance it looks like pretty sound stuff - but revealing the sources would give the whole venture the externally-verifiable credibility it deserves.



sorry tough, i wrote it all down in longhand yrs ago....it is good stuff


Oh well, never mind.

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7-failure to distinguish between private and public personal care
habits: i.e., brushing, public attention to skin problems, nose picking, teeth picking, ear canal cleaning, (lol) clothing arangement..........mild to moderate symptom


Not guilty, generally speaking. I'm quite aware of whether I'm on public view or not, and take pains to remove myself from public examination for a good deal of the time. I did go through a phase when I would trim my whiskers with a pair of scissors, but I didn't like the idea of being seen doing that, and I hope I never was. Though I wish I lived in a world where people didn't mind that kind of thing.

I presume my upbringing forced me to conform to a large extent; my mother was a stickler for keeping up appearances in public, and I hated it but had no choice in the matter because it was enforced very strongly. In many ways I still resent having to conform to the perceived expectations of the general public, and have no interest in doing much more than the bare minimum to avoid inviting contempt. So I can be quite scruffy but not incredibly so.

I do have some standards of visual appearance and of the way I conduct myself, though they're more my own standards than anybody else's. Generally the kind of clothes I feel I should wear aren't made - I'm still looking for a mid-Victorian tailor who works cheap, so I can really have some fun and dress up properly, though I probably wouldn't want to do that all the time, just to show off, like putting on funny hats. Frankly I think modern clothes mostly look pretty stupid. So I just go for corduroy trousers and casual shirts - personal comfort is everything for me. If my socks don't match each other, I don't much care. If people must judge me, they should judge me on more important matters than odd socks.

There's probably tons of things I don't like seeing people do in public, I have to tolerate them so I feel I should be allowed the same tolerance back. Best thing is to select friends carefully and live independently so the people who mind can't do anything about it.

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8- RIGID adherence to rules and social conventions where flexibility is desirable................mild to moderate symptom

Partly guilty. When I'm being true to my nature, I'm more likely to fly in the face of rules and social conventions, unless I see the reason for them, in which case I might be quite rigid sometimes. If I'm not being true to my nature, e.g. if I've figured out that somebody I care about would feel ashamed of me for not complying, or if I've figured out that I'm unlikely to get the goodies unless I conform, then I might well be too rigid in my compliance, as I'm unlikely to really "get" the rule or why it's required. It'd be interesting to see whether I'd do any better in a homogenous group of people I really liked and respected, but there aren't many of those around these days.



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social symptoms of asperger's disorder:

9-social isolation and intense concern for privacy.....symptom moderate to severe.............i prefer to be mostly alone but do enjoy the company of people when in the mood, however i have no problem with, and prefer to be alone...i am more of a loner type....i am intensley private and only reveal thoings about myself on a very limited basis...despise nosey people, and make it more difficult on purpose to shut out their nosiness, lol

10- flash temper....symptom mild to moderate....omg, my temper is quick and volitile...when i was young it was really bad..i could destroy things sometimes...very impatient and get irritable very very fast...short fused and explosive...thankfully age and anger control have helped out a lot


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