So I posted in the infamous AS partners forum for NT's...

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12 Feb 2015, 12:25 pm

Jono wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartners/messages/?msg=13507.1

What do you all think?


Careful Cube. We aren't allowed to talk about banned members, I think that I know more about the specifics of what happened but it's best to discuss that via PM, so that it doesn't break the rules. I'll send you a PM giving my opinion.


Sorry, I didn't know. TY for the warning. I'll keep that in mind next time.



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12 Feb 2015, 12:40 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
What do you all think?

I just thought "oh no, not again." It's no longer surprising to me, I know what they do there, I've said what I think, at some length. Done. I don't need reminding. The only thing that still bothers me is the fact that they're not the only ones. There's already Maxine Aston and Autism Speaks.



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12 Feb 2015, 12:57 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartners/messages/?msg=13507.1

What do you all think?



I think there is a misscommunication between her and aspies. She is nice to their faces and is always polite but the aspies think it's all fake. I don't know if she started on AS Partners first or on the other forum but if she started on the other forum and got kicked out for her niceness, then that would explain her hostile attitude towards us and she seems to be hurt. I think she really thinks we are evil and out to hurt people and we all refuse to see that. I don't know what she did that got her kicked but I doubt it was because she was NT. It's like how aspies say they get kicked from forums for being autistic.

I think Who Am I did her a favor because it seems like this place is too traumatizing for her and upsetting so why is she coming here? I say the same about other aspies too who keep going to their forum and getting upset about what they see there. It's pot calling the kettle black, how they feel about our forum is how we feel about their forum.

I say we're even. Also it sounds like she has had another account here and it got banned because she mentioned about being banned again by an aspie. But they ban aspies on their forum so it's not different if an aspie here bans them.


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12 Feb 2015, 1:10 pm

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^^ It's the same with women and body image. The makers of say, a vacuum cleaner, use thin and well-dressed women in their ads, but not because they want women to conform to that standard. Rather, knowing that many women already aspire to be thin and well-dressed, they use that desire to sell vacuums. The idea is that, subconsciously, women will believe that owning a certain vacuum will make them more attractive. The pressure these ads put on women to conform to a certain body image, while very real, is a self-perpetuating side effect.



IMO I think the increase in eating disorders is because of all these images we put out there of perfect bodies and it makes girls feel bad about themselves so they feel pressure to be thin. Even if they don't give in, they still feel pressure because they take offense and some feel so bad about their image, they slam women who do look good and think those women posted a good picture of themselves to gloat and brag and be judgmental. It's like if you have something good, you aren't allowed to talk about it or else it's "bragging."

My husband even thinks it's wrong to show a picture of your post partum body after you have your baby and you are back to your normal size already and still have your normal body or talk about how much weight you have gained and you barely gained any while all the other women have gained a lot so far. It's so politically incorrect to show your image if your body isn't ruined after having a baby and it's politically correct to show your image of your new body after you have a baby? I think women also feel pressure about having to look good again after having their babies so they get bitter about themselves and some make themselves feel better by picking on women who have it good.


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12 Feb 2015, 1:20 pm

There seems to be social pressure to meet the perfection of the female form. And this form is childlike. It's like we are supposed to perpetuate the illusion of youthful affluent perfection. Like women wearing heels in the snow and ice ... Making sure the illusion doesn't crack. I don't know why society needs to put his pressure on people.



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12 Feb 2015, 1:45 pm

Who's more likely to buy your lipstick (or clothes, or fancy car, or whatever) - the person with high self-esteem or the person who's trying to compensate for some imaginary deficiency? There's your answer.



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12 Feb 2015, 1:54 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
Who's more likely to buy your lipstick (or clothes, or fancy car, or whatever) - the person with high self-esteem or the person who's trying to compensate for some imaginary deficiency? There's your answer.

I saw in a documentary once how lipstick is supposed to simulate the blushing effect on the lips during arousal. So women wearing lipstick are perhaps unkowgly displaying this.



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12 Feb 2015, 1:58 pm

I think it's pointless to post on as partners, the people there are too set in their minds to change their minds about anything.
In their minds, they have found an eggsplanation for their problems and/or person/condition to blame, and they are sticking with it.
Often, when people believe fully that they have a good eggsplanation, they will make all data fit that, and they will not accept anything that doesn't fit.


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12 Feb 2015, 2:06 pm

Why bother even going to that Site.

Reminds me of sites related to "pick-up artists." Or "mens rights" type people

Extremely negative, not at all inclusive.

I doubt that it was the intention of the originator of the AS Partners site to preach a virulently anti-AS philosophy--but that site seems to have snowballed into that sort of site.

Again, why go there?



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12 Feb 2015, 2:36 pm

There is a thread there about us now.

Edit...and now it's gone. I thought it was a sensible post.



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12 Feb 2015, 4:18 pm

androbot01 wrote:
I saw in a documentary once how lipstick is supposed to simulate the blushing effect on the lips during arousal. So women wearing lipstick are perhaps unkowgly displaying this.


Yes. Same with blush on the cheeks, and the way high heels make the back look arched. It's intended to simulate (and stimulate) arousal.


cubedemon6073 wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartners/messages/?msg=13507.1

What do you all think?


Looks like they deleted it. Can anyone PM what it said?



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12 Feb 2015, 6:27 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
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What do you all think?


I think they are honestly confused/wrong about why they get banned on WP. On their site, they are accustomed to speaking with great disdain and hatred for an entire group of people. They don't understand that this site doesn't tolerate that. Instead, they think they're being banned for being NT, which is of course ridiculous. There are many lovely NT people here who are spouses/partners/friends/parents of folks with ASD.



To any people from ASPartners who are banned and wondering why: it's because you were being a hateful jerk.


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12 Feb 2015, 6:34 pm

To anyone from ASPartners reading this and thinking that dana was a poor, misunderstood victim, here are some direct quotes:

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you bring our forum to your dump.

( swear word ) you all.


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You all always write such vile crap.


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You won't write a kind note. You never do.



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Typical Aspi reply of course.



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It truly isn't nice to steal posts and post them elsewhere.


Stealing posts :roll: . It's called quoting.

Would anyone from ASPartners, with your clearly superior social and empathetic skills, care to explain how dana's posts are to be taken as anything other than hateful and condescending?


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12 Feb 2015, 7:29 pm

From Wikipedia

Ideologies of hate share a number of characteristics:

The Other
– Fundamental to all ideologies of hate is the idea of a target group (or multiple groups) designated as Other. It is not, however, the actual group as it exists in reality, but a fiction created to solidify the identity of the hate group and justify its existence and its actions. To achieve this, the Other must be portrayed as being both inferior, to establish the hate group’s superiority, and threatening, to establish the need to take action against them.

Victimhood
– Despite portraying the Other as being inherently inferior, claiming to be victims themselves – and rejecting the idea of the Other as a victim – is central to ideologies of hate. For instance, a widely-reprinted article by David Duke, a former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, claims that Whites were the true victims of slavery. As well as eliminating any possible sympathy for the enemy, victimhood is tremendously effective in appealing to those youth who are most vulnerable to hate messages.

Delphi Forum Lurkers, here's a mirror for you.



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12 Feb 2015, 10:56 pm

This whole thing of people from wp and as partners going back and forth is entertaining.


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13 Feb 2015, 12:40 am

btbnnyr wrote:
This whole thing of people from wp and as partners going back and forth is entertaining.



Me too. I am enjoying this drama.


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