Optimism and Reality: Goldfish21 Response to me

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If you're cured GF, why are you here?

I wasn't here four years ago. I get it now.

Ok so you are alleviating symptoms from an undiagnosed disorder. If that works for you, that's great. Some of us are naturally skeptical of your claims.

Btw, I love public transportation. Great option for anyone. We need more of it.

Anything that a society requires one to have without alternative is a need. Employers require one to apply online with no exceptions or alternatives. To live in modern society requires a computer. A computer is a need.

As for Maslow's hierarchy of needs I have issues with it. Example, people put themselves in danger all the time with backyard wrestling and it is used for belonging in a group.

And, Biological needs aren't the only needs. The computer and phone are good examples.

Now, let's say a person doesn't want to use a phone or computer. Can this person do that? Entitlements to me aren't just about having things but not having things as well. Is a person entitled to not having a phone or computer and still make a living in today's real world? If the answer is no then we're slaves to our tech and our choices are limited.

Let me ask you this goldfish. If capitalism is such an efficient and effective system as claimed then why is half of food produced thrown away? https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... es-perfect

Why did VHS succeed over the betamax despite the fact that the betamax was a better product then the VHS?

Why are banks and other one percenters considered to big to fail? Why do they get bailouts yet I, ASS-P, you and the average joe can't get bailouts? Why don't personal responsibility apply to banks and the one percenters? Why am I entitled to nothing by others yet these one percenter as*holes are entitled to everything including a bailout?

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Well, it's silly to claim as a society that anyone can work hard and pull themselves out of poverty when it's not true. At least tell the truth and not give propaganda.[/quote]

It’s not silly. It’s fact. Whether working hard or smart, anyone can work their way out of poverty.

Even those on disability have some disposable income. I know a few who spend plenty more on drugs and alcohol than I do. Even without employment income they could save up money if they wanted to.

They have internet access, too, and thus access to information and learning. They could also make it a priority to learn what to invest their savings into to grow it into more money. Or do so attheir bank. Whether low risk small returns or smart moves investing in higher risk things (stocks/crypto) virtually anyone can increase their monetary wealth even if they’re unable to work and have wage increases/employment income.

I’ve never made a very high wage to date, but I have saved and invested some money and it will grow and then I’ll doversify into various investments and overtime grow things further. It might take me years to make a lot of money, but who knows? Maybe I get lucky and make sognificant returns rather rapidly and have enough money to retire from my day job early and do what I want instead ?? I was bankrupt 6 years ago and unable to work. I haven’t made perfect investment decisions lol if I had a crystal ball I’d be a multimillionaire overnight. I made costly mistakes that if I didn’t make I’d have 3x as much money as I do now, but regardless, I am still in the black and the future looks prosperous. I’ll get wealthier slowly over time eve if I never ever earn an above average income.

That’s me, though, obviously. It might take someone else a couple years to save $500, but during that couple years they could explore learning what to do with it and if they make some calculated risky moves they could double it up a lot faster than another couple years (technically possible overnight!) and then continue to grow their savings and investments forever if they choose. It is the use what wealthy investment advisor types say, that you Can save and invest in virtually ANY income level.

Personally I feel that the internet and stick market are incredible equalizers for us autistics as we may never ever get that $ix figure paying job, but even on a modest employment income we can save some money, crunch the numbers, analyze things 8 ways from Sunday, take some risks with money we can afford to lose & turn it into a small fortune over time - or, you never know, even a big fortune!! NT world & employment income be damned, We can still make a LOT of money in this world - possibly faster and better than many of our NT counterparts who can’t quite do the math and analysis as good or fast as we can, and who can’t manage to save much of their way higher income because they give a s**t about material things, a social life, fashion etc. Meanwhile, on half the income I can become wealthier than them in a few short years and then leave them in the dust!

I know, I know, that’s Me and my business school education & kinda Rain Man like nature + my symptoms under control via treatments etc etc but my point holds true that literally any of us, even on disability, can save & invest money and grow it over time. We don’t necessarily ever have to be capable of getting and keeping a job and earning a high wage. Granted, gotta have discipline and self control and decent executive functioning - but again, ALL of these things can be worked on and improved over time if that’s one’s goal to do so in order to be more financially prosperous.

Maybe others never see six or seven figure account balances, but, improvement is improvement. $500 saved from disability payments could be turned into thousands or tens of thousands by retirement.

Making money does not have to come from a paycheque - in fact, one of the most monetarily valuable things a multimillionaire friend ever said to me was “People don’t make their money from their jobs.” And what he meant was that they build fortunes by saving their employment income and utilizing it as investment capital to the best of their ability - and that’s how people get rich. That’s how virtually ANY of us can slowly build our own net worth, too. More is more, improvement is improvement. Some or us can and will become millionaires, others may only make a few thousand extra dollars over their lifetime - but every single last one of us Can do better than our current financial position.

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No for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.

Hey Goldfish, we agree on a lot of things like investments. And you are right about living within means or under.

Keep on with it. People can make choices with money. I couldn't agree with you more.

That's reasonable and thanks GF. I'm interested.