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I'm posting a thread with a poll as soon as possible.

There aren't enough poll options available. Just post the number of your favourite and I'll keep track as best I can

The poll.

There.

THIS THREAD HAS BEEN DECLARED A DEADHORSE By Z. [nat sec adv s.p.b.d.h.] PLEASE REFRAIN FROM FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE BY FURTHER POSTING.

*Snickers*

Wait a minute! Just WHO is qualified to call a vote for this society? You or the president? Was there a vote???? Is this another attempted coup????

I tried to divert Selo to that, but it didn't work.

I've given up - I've thrown a rant about him on my ASD Hating blog and that will be that.



I've got a better idea. However many poll options there are, put in as many as possible, and start the first of several polls. Once you have a winner of the first one, do the second and so on - and then do a final poll with each of the winners.

Much easier to keep track of!

(*ROTFLMAO* @ LBP!! !! !)

This he-a hoss is live and kickin', I reckon. So GIDDAP! *whip cracks*

Ah Here comes Dr Chinnery. With a HorseShooterMk4. Ah, and there's the pope wanting to discuss a miricle...

I'm tired of arguing, so I think I will.


I'm a girl. Unless you're talking about someone else.

IS that a frisson i feel there ...

http://asdhating.blogspot.com/

This link is all I'm providing. I will not act to influence discussion. I am simply giving Selo a link to what's being said about her. Selo, the blog does not allow responses.

TLPG, is it so bad that she doesn't agree with you? Is it so grave a matter that it's reasonable to insult her, embarass her, and rant about her?

I only skimmed the thread and some links so i probably got a lot mixed up or missed. sorry in advance.

Im kind of tired of people thinking NTs not accepting ASDs is the only problem.

its not just acceptance will solve the problems. theres stuff NTs have nothing to do with: speaking weird, worse sensory stuff, digestive problems, ect. and NTs who try hard to understand but can't, even though they do accept the person and respect their wishes but it confuses them or the person when certain things happen.

I dont know what selo was trying to say. as for me: I dont support curing all people. even myself, i probably wouldnt go with one. if people want one or not is their own bussness. but being anti cure all around isnt that good either.

its possible there wont even be a cure and only treatments to help the bad junk (like speach therapies and other therapies, most not as bad as they used to be it seems), and that would mean fighting about one online's a little pointless, i geuss.

edit: sorry, when i said pointless i dont mean the cure debate. more me getting involved in fighting about it online if theres no cure, nothing really for me to type on about.
and by speaking weird i meant a bunch of speech stuff but didnt want to list, i just made a quick list, not saying that all autistics deal with this stuff just that theres more problems that people want to be gone completely.

I dont want to fight though, I kind of wish i never posted because i probably bumped up this thread, so im not responding or adding more, i just edited because i think i said it wrong. ill keep them my own.

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Since when are digestive problems part of autism? I'd also say that things such as "speaking weirdly" are very much in the eye of the beholder. I don't think anti-cure people are against helping people achieve their full potential and communicate better, but we are against imposing a singular idea of "normal" on people who don't have a choice about it.

It's not quite pointless, because words like 'cure' and 'recovery' can be falsely substituted for 'hope' in a way that, at least in my life, has been destructive and inaccurate, and did not for a long time allow anyone in my family to see the whole picture of what was going on or what could go on, and led to bad things. So despite one not existing, the ideas can still be pretty potent. And in my life it became all the more potent and dangerous, not less, because I was not capable of being brought to the standard of functioning deemed normal in my society. My family was presented with some pretty stark and downright evil alternatives based on that and it's largely luck that they weren't fully realized.

I can't describe the whole thing right now. I just described it to someone last night, and my jaw hurts (which is interfering with thinking). Maybe I'll blog it.

Also, things being a problem of the environment are more complex than just "NT attitudes", that's an oversimplification of the views of a lot of us around that. For instance, it's possible for there to be elements of the environment that can be changed to be not only less overloading and more clear for autistic people but better for many other sorts of people as well. It doesn't have to be just "attitudes" that change, and accessibility has become a reality for many other sorts of disabled people (at least in some places) despite it originally being considered impossible (and again it's led to more than just changes that benefit disabled people, but also many other people as well). When people talk about society we're not talking just about the particular climate of a social situation, we're also talking about willingness to make more things accessible for more sorts of people. And since disabled people actually include most of the population if you go across a lifespan, that becomes quite a necessity if you think about it, unless we want to continue just shunting people off into corners as soon as they cross a certain line.