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30 Jun 2010, 3:05 am

hale_bopp wrote:

How they make friends so quickly

I will never understand how people can have one conversation with someone and then be their best friend. My mom's boyfriend is that way -- he seems to have friends and know someone everywhere we go, and in all honesty, it just doesn't make so much sense with me. I'll be forced to go around with them occasionally, but I'll just sit around nursing a drink, not caring enough to try and get to know these people...

My thing would HAVE to be why people get so angry when they ask you for your opinion and then get upset when you tell them the truth. I'm not going to tell you that something looks good when it clearly doesn't. I'm not going to tell you you're in the right when you're clearly not.

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30 Jun 2010, 3:14 am

Bells wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

How they make friends so quickly

apparently, it's not the words being spoken, but the vibe they get from the person or something....

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30 Jun 2010, 3:17 am

TheDoctor82 wrote:

Bells wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

How they make friends so quickly

apparently, it's not the words being spoken, but the vibe they get from the person or something....

...that makes even less sense to me.
Honestly, how can you be friends with someone without knowing anything about them!?!

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30 Jun 2010, 3:49 am

There's friends and there's friends.

People I get along with I call friends because it's easier than saying 'oh that person is just someone I know and get along with'. If I'm talking about a group of friends I hang out with regularly I say best friends.

May seem confusing but most NT's get this difference.

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30 Jun 2010, 4:35 am

beetle812 wrote:

I don't understand the NT need to smile for no reason and make small talk for no reason and to ask you how you're doing when they really don't want the real answer.

Yeah I hate that frequently used expression "How are you?" Because nobody is ever really interested in your answer. You are expected to say "Ok" or "Im fine" no matter how you are that day. So the question, although considered polite, is really meaningless because the truth of the answer is not sought.

The worst thing I hear especially in work is: "Did you have a nice weekend?" - You are expected to say "Yeah thanks". But they are not interested in your weekend at all.

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30 Jun 2010, 4:45 am

Deidara wrote:

I myself am mostly NT, but I just don't get clubbing.

I should rather say I get it too much. The few times I went clubbing I just couldn't have fun. All my friends were dancing etc., but in my eyes it was a sea of girating and frankly quite like animals courting eachother. For me it was proof that, no matter how smart humans may be, we're still monkeys in the inside. I found it despicable.

I'd rather go play some soccer with my friends or just do stuff on my own.

+infinity!

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30 Jun 2010, 4:47 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_talk ... 29#Purpose

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30 Jun 2010, 5:24 am

well I certainly do consider the majority to basically be little more than monkeys.

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30 Jun 2010, 6:31 am

The advertising phrase:

"Discover the real you."

It's used to promote healthcare products, cosmetics and women's slimming clubs.

It gives the impression that shedding layers of adipose tissue "Russian Doll" style would reveal the "real person" trapped inside.

Who is the "real you" exactly and would you be the "real you" if you hadn't read the advertisement?

Perhaps the concept of "you" is transient and culturally influenced.
So maybe the idea of a "real you" is ridiculous considering that people change over time.

There also seems to be an obsession with "removing imperfections" from the body and the mind.

My guess is that this kind of advertising plays on people's insecurities.
The product becomes a vehicle for self actualisation.

People want to be "unique" by buying into a brand.
Never mind that millions of other people own identical products.

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30 Jun 2010, 7:36 am

i saw a clip on the news today where a doctor was found guilty of manslaughter. his actions resulted in the deaths of numerous people, and the families of his victims were elated when the verdict was announced.

they yelled "yahoo!" and some punched the air in glee, and they all had extreme smiles on their faces.
they were all elated, and some of them said that this was the best day in their lives.

it is incomprehensible to me. it means if their loved ones had not died, then today would be just another boring day for them, and they would not be as happy as they are on this day.

if their loved ones had not died, then they would not be thumping the air and trumpeting their happiness and opening bottles of champagne on this day.

i tried to put it into perspective in my mind and the only analogy i could come up with was this:

a person is worth 10 million dollars for 20 years and is totally used to it and takes it for granted.
then one day they lose everything, and are left with $5000 which they struggle with for a few years.
then after say 5 years, they get back $500,000 of what they lost, and they are so happy that they are drunk with bliss. they are happier the day they get back the $500,000 than they were any day that they had $10,000,000.
it does not make sense.

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30 Jun 2010, 11:22 am

Seshat wrote:

Speaking of weird traditions like shaking hands, one thing I've never understood is the tradition of "blessing" someone when they sneeze. I understand where the tradition came from (medieval superstition about demons), but I don't get why people still do it. Why should there be an entire social interaction, an empty one at that, dedicated to the involuntary reflex action of expelling foreign objects from the nasal passages?
I just find the whole "bless you" meme to be really annoying, especially as someone with AS. What am I supposed to say, "thanks"? Because that's what I do say, but then it seems like people look at me funny for saying that. It's gotten to the point that I actually stifle sneezes when I'm in a group of people, just so I won't have to deal with the whole "bless you" awkwardness. Why can't I just sneeze in peace?!

Of course you could always go with the Seinfeld solution and say, "You're soooo good-lookin'!" :lol:

OMG, that was my first thought too when I saw the handshake post! I hate the "bless you" tradition cause it makes me feel self-conscious, like "Hey, here's who noticed that I sneezed!"

I don't think this has to do with AS, though. Some people just want to sneeze without being bugged. When I'm alone in public, I sometimes sneeze normally, and when strangers bless me, I wince inside. :oops:

Why not say "bless you" when people yawn or cough? Like, OMG, your mouth also opens, so your soul can escape that way too! :roll:

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30 Jun 2010, 11:24 am

Arm waving at sports events or at certain performances. I just can't figure out why they do that.

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30 Jun 2010, 11:34 am

elderwanda wrote:

List one NT thing you don't understand:

The angry, frantic hollering at sporting events. I mean like parents watching their kids play on a softball team, or something. I understand the encouraging, friendly, "You can do it!" stuff. But sometimes these people get SO loud, and sound so angry! "Go, GO! GO! GET THE BALL!! !! !! !"

I remember one girl at school jumping up and down and shouting Go Go Go at a team mate. I couldnt understand. I felt i didnt fit in but wanted to and i thought is that what you're supposed to do - I'll never be able to do that ...

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30 Jun 2010, 1:49 pm

AmberEyes wrote:

It kind of reminds me how my friends went crazy, and started giving this condescending attitude about how he wanted to save people from themselves, as he was some big supporter of a very well known politically-motivated movement. The thing is...he was saying he didn't follow the masses, and considered himself one of the few enlightened ones...upon watching several of the exact same programs that were/are popular among pretty much everyone else in our age group.

What I don't understand is how can one be any more informed than the next guy if they're getting their information from petty much the exact same sources?

To top it off, if you're basically listening to the same tripe propaganda that every other source is spewing, how exactly are you 'well informed'?

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30 Jun 2010, 2:06 pm

TheDoctor82 wrote:

I don't think being more "enlightened" has anything to do with being more "well-informed". It's more about processing what you hear/read/see critically, knowing your values, and staying true to them.

I think calling certain narrow-minded people "ignorant" is euphemistic. If it's willful they aren't truly ignorant. Nope, they're just stupid. There, I said it. That's the problem with the world. Too many stupid people.

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30 Jun 2010, 2:44 pm

I cant stand the ambiguous statement-"have a good one"--what am I supposed to have a good one of? a good key lime pie,a good bathroom experience (because of the number one),a good walk,a good night of hot wet monkey sex? etc etc etc

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