Self diagnosed people here don't have aspergers

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25 Jan 2010, 3:45 am

i don't care what anyone says or how they justify it. self diagnosis is not as good as a proper diagnosis and it doesn't count. you may as well be getting diagnosed by a doctor who knows nothing about ASDs. same thing, except worse cause people are bias towards themselves and what they want. you have to go to a proper specialist to really find out. any other method is just plain and simple guessing. that is what i believe.



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25 Jan 2010, 3:55 am

thetempertrap wrote:
i don't care what anyone says or how they justify it. self diagnosis is not as good as a proper diagnosis and it doesn't count. you may as well be getting diagnosed by a doctor who knows nothing about ASDs. same thing, except worse cause people are bias towards themselves and what they want. you have to go to a proper specialist to really find out. any other method is just plain and simple guessing. that is what i believe.

This is true to a point and doesn't apply in all cases. But seeing a specialist, an outside view from someone with experience in the area, is recommended and should be sought no matter how sure someone might be.



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25 Jan 2010, 3:59 am

I am what I was for 32 years before any doctor had his say. And I am what I was for 24 years before any doctor even had the option to label me with aspergers.

I am as I am. I did not become something new the day I was diagnosed.


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25 Jan 2010, 5:24 am

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I dont think people should self diagnose themselves. It's not healthy.

If they do they shouldn't say that they have Aspergers as though it's a matter of fact. It's not concrete. Doctors know what they're talking about more than an online test.

Sorry but it's true.

My experience points to the opposite conclusion.



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25 Jan 2010, 5:42 am

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25 Jan 2010, 6:04 am

"No one will ever know you as well as you know yourself" any professional Psych. will tell you that, the key factor is that you have the facts of the condition correct and you have judged your own qualitative impairment correctly.

I am seeking a Dx at the age of 32, I also have a genetic link (father had bipolar), symptomatic history and my mother was even given Thermisol during my gestation due to being a RH- mother and me being RH+ which caused haemolytic disease which can cause all levels of brain damage even cerebral palsy.
I also have another genetic condition (type 1 diabetes).

I don't want this condition, but after several months of researching all possible conditions this is the logical one.



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25 Jan 2010, 6:16 am

How do you know?


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25 Jan 2010, 6:47 am

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How do you know?

I don't and I won't 100% even if Dx by a specialist your Dx can change, that doesn't mean that you/specialist were wrong, just means you met that criteria at that time and could even happen the other way round.



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25 Jan 2010, 7:01 am

I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.



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25 Jan 2010, 7:06 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.

Would you care to share your findings?



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25 Jan 2010, 8:17 am

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I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.


I agree that some "AS - Diagnosed" people's online behavior doesn't seem aspie-like.

But it's important to recognize that we're talking about online behavior. The way someone communicates in text does not necessarily correlate with the way they behave in other contexts.

It would be irrational to draw conclusions about who someone is based solely on their contributions to web-based discussion groups.


Also, bear in mind that this is essentially a special interest forum, with the interest being AS. People post here because they are interested in AS; I think that is all that can be rationally concluded.



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25 Jan 2010, 8:42 am

release_the_bats wrote:
bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.


I agree that some "AS - Diagnosed" people's online behavior doesn't seem aspie-like.

But it's important to recognize that we're talking about online behavior. The way someone communicates in text does not necessarily correlate with the way they behave in other contexts.


That is correct. Many autists written skills vastly exceed their verbal skills.


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25 Jan 2010, 8:43 am

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Uh huh....

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You know you have asperger's when.... you come onto a message board and flame 3/4's of the members...


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25 Jan 2010, 9:42 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.


What makes you more qualified to make such an assessment? And how are your observations, limited and purely through selective communication through an non-personified medium, at all relevant to determining whether someone is or is not on the spectrum? That you are aware and seek to understand others is a good thing, but it also seems you are overestimating the depth and accuracy of your observations. Doctors aren't necessarily any more familiar or educated when it comes to ASDs; at the same time, one doesn't have to be a doctor to be capable of making a misdiagnosis... errors exist regardless of who is making the decision. People, as a whole, are capable of amazing variations in behavior - to judge based on their ability to exceed or elude your own expectations isn't something I find effective or would suggest to others.


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25 Jan 2010, 10:13 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.


I don't know if you've been here long enough to see posts about written skills vs verbal skills.

Most people with aspergers have trouble communicating verbally since it requires them to automatically process information and then respond. For most of us, we're very slow. Posting and writing gives us time to think about what we want to say before saying it in printed form. In fact, I'm probably more apt to being social on a forum than in person. I have trouble with pablum chat as well as speaking in a way that is "normal" to someone.

As for the rest, what is your idea of aspie behavior?

Everyone varies on the spectrum with many different interests, behaviors, skills and so forth. I doubt there is such a thing as "aspie-like" especially in a place where you can't see or hear people.


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25 Jan 2010, 10:50 am

bdhkhsfgk wrote:
I've not only encountered self-diagnosed people here, but also misdiagnosed ones, I have analyzed some WP members' behaviours, and they don't seem so aspie-like at all.


First off, I'm sorry to everyone how I may have sounded. I didn't mean to sound as though I think that everyone self diagnosed doesn't have it - that's not my view at all. I believe a self diagnoses can be just as strong as a diagnoses by a professional: but if you do I think it would be wise to say (in a side note or as such) that it is self diagnosed: just not to be misleading. Sorry if this offends anyone.

To bdhkhsfgk: It's known that people with Asperger Syndrome and other Autistic Spectrum Disorders find it easier to communicate through the use of a laptop; mobile phone or some other electronic device. It's a very confusing world out there and staying in and communicating over the internet brings a whole new level of communication. I for one find it very difficult to go outside, so instead if I want to communicate or do ANYTHING that can be done on a PC/over the internet I will use my trusty laptop.

Also, I don't know how you can say that people on here are misdiagnosed: for one thing there's the fact that we're online but also you're not qualified to make such a judgment. If you want to make that sort of judgment I think you need to meet us in person and get yourself a couple of degrees.


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