Are there any true geniuses here? (IQ over 155)

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I think Pezar is missing the point here.
Albert Einstein was not a Genius.
He was actually dyslexic.
I believe that his disability caused his mind to work all the time, trying to figure out the problems which he could not always translate into words.

People who are geniuses - usually end up dying alone - penniless and destitute.

My IQ is 155 or beyond.
I cannot hold a job, cannot get along with others, can write my feelings down better then I can speak.
I can sing better then I can talk.
I only have about 50% of normal hearing - hence I do not always hear what others are saying and I try to guess what I missed.
I was in several automobile accidents - none of which was my fault - which caused permanent brain injuries.
I probably lost the use of 1/8 of my brain.
But I use 100% of the 7/8ths that still works - as compared to most dumb asses that has a fully functional brain - but chooses to waste it on alcohol and drugs and watching television and playing video games and worrying about what others thinks about them on the computer or in real life.

I choose the path less chosen and I am a better person for doing it.

The difference between me and you is - I know what Stephen Hawking thinks about when he is thinking.
I know what Einstein thought about when he was thinking.

We have several basic needs, food , clothing, shelter, love and affection...
Give a man 3 good meals, clothes on his back, a place to live, someone to love them and others that likes them and they can live a fairly reasonable life.

The problem is - smart people thinks too much.
Their drive is not driven by greed.
They do not look for riches
The do not look for looks
They do not seek knowledge
But they all have one basic desire that most people do not.

They wonder - is this all that there is , and if there is - why am I killing myself trying to please others and solve their complex problems when my problems are much more complex then theirs.

All of the scientific formulas has one goal in common.
Is there a god and if there is a god, how can I prove it?
If I can't prove it, then how can I prove he does not exist?
Is there a heaven?
If there is a heaven - where is it located?
How can I get there?
Who makes the choice?
When will I die?
What will happen to me after I die?
What will happen to my family after I die?

The biggest question is - when is the last day on earth?
The end of time?

I have the answer - the earth will end the day I die.
There will be no more earth as we know it.
The world only revolves around one person - ME!

I am the chosen one.
I was sent here with a specific purpose.
I am going to do something great before I die!
I do not know what it is going to be, but I know that is the only reason why god put me on this earth!

SO - in order for me to do this, I have to do what ever it takes to get my from point A to point B.
Take away my sight - and I will develop a way to see without eyes.
Take away my vertebra or my legs - and I will find a way to travel
Take away my heart and I will create a artificial heart
Take away my lungs and I will develop a way to breath without lungs
Take away my kidneys and I will design a new form of dialysis.
Take away my voice and I will still be heard!

The problem here is - no one here realizes my genius.
Yes they applaud me when I create a scientific formula that explains the cosmos - but they never really develop a liking for me just for who I am.
I'm not invited to parties or weddings or gatherings for my good looks or my whit - but when the red lights starts flashing and everyone is screaming for help - who do they call?
Not ghost busters - that is for sure!

I have limited math skills and I never did well in school.

A lot of that has to do with the fact that there was a lot of bullying going on and I was more fearful for my life then I was about not passing a math test in school.

If you gave me a Rubiks cube - I wouldn't sit there and turn it and try to make the colors align.

I would either peel off the stickers and put them where I wanted them, or I would take it apart, put it back together in such a way - you never knew it was taken apart and put the colors where I wanted them.

Peg Board tests were just as comical - Square peg in a round hole - all you need is a big hammer.
The people would spend hours trying to get the damn pegs back out of the holes!

Things like hacking the schools computer system and changing all the maintenance records for the entire school year.
Tuning up a PA amplifier so it would receive the local radio station when the office - secretary tried to read the lunch menu.
Putting pennies in the mashed potatoes so the garbage disposal would break - that was my forte.

I don't know why but, This had me LMAO.

IQ 167. Not that it's done me much good.

anbuend's not a liar (and has no reason to lie). She also hasn't been an active poster for several months, so you are unlikely to see any response to your demands.

A few of the disabled people at my school probably don't get good scores on IQ tests. Learning disabilities, congenital stuff, head injuries, ADHD, whatever. They're effective college students, though. And their doctors most likely know that the IQ tests aren't valid for that population to begin with.

The ironic thing about IQ tests is that they are normed for neurotypicals who are not unusually bright or unusually delayed. That's the group the test is most valid for--and the group that least needs it.

The IQ test also assumes that everybody develops in exactly the same way, and the only difference is in how fast or slow you develop. The more atypical your development, the less the IQ test applies to you. And even for people who are unusually fast or unusually slow, there are ceiling and floor effects to worry about, and the IQ test again gets less valid.

If there's anything we aren't, it's average.

Autistic people have atypical development and are far from average--often far above in one area, far below in another area at the same time, or else just qualitatively different. The more autistic someone is, the less the IQ test applies to them, because the assumptions we make when we try to use that test are no longer valid.

So, yeah, it makes perfect sense that someone could get an IQ score of 50 and still pass college classes--because if your brain is unusual enough, measuring your academic ability with an IQ test makes about as much sense as using your bathroom scale to measure air pressure.

This thread is seven thousand years old.

The horse.

It is dead.

Yeah, it's a weird thing to do, even though it's interesting. A high IQ does not help if you can't make use of your abilities in life.

I scored 157 on an IQ test over twenty years ago, and was even a member of Mensa for a brief time.

I'm not completely convinced by IQ tests. Neither by their rationale nor their significance.

However, at the time it made a difference to me. It made me realise that I wasn't quite as stupid as I'd been led to believe for much of my life.

But it wasn't until I got diagnosed last year that I finally discovered why I'd come to think of myself as stupid when I was young. It was a docile acceptance of other people's evaluation of the way I came across, my interests, and my attitudes. My ASD weirdness.

So now I know that I'm bright, that I don't fit in by nature, and should just do things my way. Better late than never!

I used to write novels in my mind, and stimming played a big part in that imagining. But whenever I tried to actually set them down (and I did spend a lot of my reclusive teenage years typing), they were terrible. This was a point of discussion during my diagnostic interview. What I saw in my mind reflected what I enjoyed in fiction - settings and big ideas. When I read a novel, the characters and their motivations are of minor interest.

But to actually write a book that's where the action happens - in imagining characters with faces and names, seeing their emotional responses. I didn't do that at all in anything I wrote. My characters barely existed and my planned novels were like beautiful film sets without actors...

This is how I see it.

It's hard to avoid the conclusion that a willingness to participate in the testing thing would correlate negatively with genius. Equally, an unwillingness to participate would correlate negatively with the sort of stick-to-itness that seems required to be hailed as a genius.

Aspergers: gets the stick confused with the carrot.

I'm only in the 130's so not genius but top 1%

I've been tested 4 times and all 4 had wildly different results.
04 years old IQ= 78
10 years old IQ= 99
14 years old IQ=133
18 years old IQ=100

I have no idea what my actual IQ is.
I think it depend on my mood at the time.

I thought 150 was genius level but regardless I expect there are quite a few geniuses here, some will choose not to identify themselves and others who aren't might claim to be........

Of course, geniuses with Autism may not be gainfully employed and even when they are, operating far below their intellectual capability.

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It's measured by standard deviations. Most IQ tests have a standard deviation of 15 or 16. A score two standard deviations away from the normal is considered unusual--so you have 70 for intellectual disability, and 130 for giftedness. Beyond 130, you're probably hitting multiple ceilings and measurement becomes very difficult anyway. Three standard deviations from the normal can be called an outlier, so 145 is often used as the cutoff for "highly gifted" or "genius". At any rate, once you get past 120 or so, other factors start mattering much more--like your working memory, your ability to focus, your organization ability, your access to education and your use of the education you get. Even below that level, those things usually matter more.

Again: This is true for neurotypicals, for whom IQ tests are actually valid (though they don't correlate with academic ability all that strongly). If you're autistic, all bets are off.

There are more factors involved for autistic people. For example I took the WMS 4 (wechsler memory scale) and WAIS 4 in one session recently. I scored low average/borderline on the WMS test yet I hit the ceiling on the WMI (working memory index) of the wais. The difference? My love of numbers on the wais WMI was enough to overcome my dislike of the test giver and distractions. Change one seemingly trivial variable for the autistic person and the difference is scoring 5 or 19 on a subtest. Your post is on the money as usual.