So I posted in the infamous AS partners forum for NT's...

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25 Feb 2015, 10:00 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Can't you folks see that this is all a farce?

Just ignore that person!

That person should get a life (and get a job!), too!


Totally agree--there is no potential positive outcome from engagement with a person so full of vitriol and prejudice.



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25 Feb 2015, 10:52 am

Jono wrote:
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A bad relationship is rarely the result of behaviours of one partner alone, whether one of them has a neurological condition or not. If you're going to say that AS type behaviours could lead to the NT partner being abused then you also have to explore what kinds of behaviours that the NT does in that situation that cause the AS partner feeling abused and potentially making the situation worse.


I agree that ASD does not make people more likely to be abusive.
That said,
a bad relationship and an abusive relationship are two very different things. An abusive relationship IS the result of the behaviors of one partner alone. "See what you made me do" is a typical abuser's excuse that must never be validated.



I do believe the ASD can contribute to the abuse even though it's not a symptom. Eckln's posts are an example because she keeps posting about her aspie husband and his traits causing him to act abusive. I need to stop lying to myself and denying that being aspie can't make someone an abuser. That is like saying my ex wasn't one and the reason why he was one was because he had issues. He had trust issues, worried too much what people would think of him and he cared too much what people thought, he had low self esteem and issues with jealousy so he put others down and me and my parents to make himself feel better.

There is still no excuse for the aspies mistreating their partners rather and their abuse could be un AS related because it could be due to low self esteem, trust issues, etc. and some are just mean and it has nothing to do with their mental illness or neurological disorder.


Nobody says that aspies can't be abusive, only that the AS doesn't cause. NT's can also have factors like low self-esteem and trust issues leading them to become abusive, that kind of thing isn't limited to aspies.


I didn't word that right. I didn't mean my ex had low self esteem or trust issues because she was aspie, I say she acted that way due to those things and I think things can contribute to the abuse. Back when my husband and I were planning to get married, the planning it was very stressful and that is stressful for lot of women so that is why we have wedding planners. My mom did most of it but I had to do some of it too. The stress was giving me anxiety so I was starting to lash out at my husband and him telling me to calm down is what made me end up throwing the phone and hitting him in the face with it. It was the stress and anxiety of the wedding is what contributed to that abuse.

I believe people are abusive because they have issues. It could be due to anxiety, PTSD, autism, anger issues, explosive disorder, trust issues, low self esteem, bipolar, past childhood abuse, alcoholism, stupidity, poor impulse control, etc.

Also I believe part of the reason was because she was transgender and I just found out she had transitioned into a woman and now claims to be bi mostly lesbian when back then she was telling me you are still a man if you get a sex change and being a homophobic calling them fags and saying she doesn't like their lifestyle and that it's a choice and telling me if I had sex with another woman before, we wouldn't have been together and we would have just been friends. My husband thinks she was compensating (whatever the word is) and she took it overboard. I think that was part of the problem when we were together and she took it out on me and others. Hopefully she is happier and it seems like she had changed.


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25 Feb 2015, 10:55 am

I didn't see any memo here telling us to stop linking to that site.

I laughed at her last comment, I do have a job. Nice generalization there.


This is the post from her:


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13135.18 in reply to 13135.17
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wrong planet Alex Plank.

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Aspergers are abusers.

I am so sick of that forum taking links from this page and posting them there and having a discussion about us.

Worse is when their discussion turns to: that a writer there thinks that WE made an aspi made thus WE caused the meltdown and abuse.

I asked them again and again to stop reading here if they are not going to learn. I asked them to stop linking our post.

2 times I made that request and I got my sign-on deleted by an a%% aspi there.

They have no empathy. They are rude.

I posted at the top of this comment their site name so that on a google search, someone may end up here HERE and thus read here instead. Saving someone.



I just wrote to Alex. An email on that page. He started that page. He is now in LA counseling all the shows how nice aspi's are.

ya know, they aren't abusive.



When I receive an email back from that forum stating that they told their writers to stop linking our page, then I will take their name off here.



This thread is linked on that page and they just can't believe our lives are not fun with them.

They blame ME for the issues with my spouse. Aspi's sit back and judge us all. To those of you on wrong planet reading this, get a damn job you losers and leave us alone.


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25 Feb 2015, 11:14 am

it's obvious it's just a bunch of nonsense.

It reminds me of when I was a kid. The kids would taunt me, I would react, the kids would laugh.

This is what's happening now. The person from the other site is trying provoke a reaction in us, so he/she could laugh at us.



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25 Feb 2015, 11:24 am

Isn't it the other way around? I get the impression we're generally the ones laughing at whatsername.



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25 Feb 2015, 11:28 am

I agree with Walrus. I think the ASPartners chick is the one flipping her lid.
I, for one, am rather enjoying the show. :)



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25 Feb 2015, 11:28 am

I'm not saying that the other poster is laughing at us. I'm saying that the poster tried to make it so he/she could laugh at us.

We turned it around on the poster, didn't we?

This is all really a farce.

But as long as you're having fun....at the expense of that idiot.....why not?



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25 Feb 2015, 11:33 am

Jono wrote:
Just in, there's a brand new post on ASPartners talking about Wrongplanet, take a look:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/aspartners/messages/?msg=13135.18

Hmmm.......she doesn't want us to post links to ASP, then she makes a post there slagging us all off. As far as I can see, that's practically begging to be linked here.

I won't dignify her comments here by pointing out what's wrong with them. But I like the post above hers:

Thank you LR! I guess I'm still deep in my confusion, hurt, and sadness . I don't want to hate. I want to forgive. I don't want to become this bitter person that I saw myself becoming. I want to look at my part and take responsibility for me. Why did I get married after seeing red flags? Why did I stay married after something was SO obviously wrong? And why did it take me 13 years to see?! !! Don't you think there's something wrong with me?! If I choose the wording: He cant as opposed to he won't; makes it easier.

Sounds like somebody over there has seen a bit of light. Shame it was completely ignored in the off-topic fury that followed. When I started having such thoughts myself about my own rocky relationship, I learned and I got better. I have enough material to rant about my ex forever, but nobody ever forced me to have anything to do with her, so whose fault was it but mine?



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25 Feb 2015, 11:34 am

Wrong Planet Rules!! !! !

This reminds me of "color war" at summer camp.



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25 Feb 2015, 1:56 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
I agree with Walrus. I think the ASPartners chick is the one flipping her lid.
I, for one, am rather enjoying the show. :)


Want some popcorn?



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25 Feb 2015, 2:18 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Wrong Planet Rules!! ! ! !

This reminds me of "color war" at summer camp.

Really?

It reminds me a bit of southpark's Gingers have no soul..



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25 Feb 2015, 2:24 pm

Long-term professional whiners don't have time for a job, whining is their full-time job. When anyone mentions that forum ("Delphi"), which could be renamed for accuracy as "whining central for repetitive whiners", I think how much some of them might benefit from this book:

http://www.drlaura.com/pg/jsp/community ... 4474069642

One-theme perpetual whiners are the biggest losers I have met in general life, because they never take responsibility for their own progress to better lives.

That a site like that takes the name of an ancient oracle site in Greece dedicated to Apollo is so laughable and ludicrous.



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25 Feb 2015, 2:42 pm

Ironic, isn't it: Members of that "other site" who accuse WrongPlanet members of being "whiners" are consummate whiners themselves!



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25 Feb 2015, 2:51 pm

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This thread is linked on that page and they just can't believe our lives are not fun with them.

They blame ME for the issues with my spouse. Aspi's sit back and judge us all. To those of you on wrong planet reading this, get a damn job you losers and leave us alone. Cube and Jono.

"It's too bad ASpartners is closed to autistics participating. It could be productive to have a dialogue and maybe both sides could learn more about the other."

This is why we have this forum. It has been impossible to communicate. This is not a mixed forum.


Fair point.
I just think that both nts and autistics can learn to relate better through an understanding of differences.



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25 Feb 2015, 2:56 pm

I absolutely agree.



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25 Feb 2015, 3:05 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Ironic, isn't it: Members of that "other site" who accuse WrongPlanet members of being "whiners" are consummate whiners themselves!


Yup, pot calling kettle black. I tried communicating with them myself and tried to have an open mind. Trust me my friend, you're better off communicating with the Cheshire cat.

BSTN, you said "get a damn job you losers and leave us alone." I've already discussed with you in our PMs about my personality type which doesn't mesh with what employers want and you've acknowledged and agreed with me. Am I expected to fake my way in and pretend to be something I'm not? In order for me to be employed, I would have to have to lie and be a fraud. Is this what you want?

BSTN, you're a Conservative Christian right? Isn't lying and being dishonest a sin?

Now, here's what I wrote when I self-reflected and became developed more self-awareness about myself.

https://whyifailedinamerica1.wordpress. ... mployment/