Aspergia becomes a nation! What do you do!

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20 Oct 2009, 4:17 pm

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What would be required is beer tourism, bringing in lots of people who are certain to spend lots of money on beer.

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- Aspieweiser ("Magnate of Beers")

- Aspergerfest (we'll hold this immediately after Oktoberfest, before anyone has the chance to sober up and realize they've been had and that there'll be no lederhosen or polkas)

- Autstel Light

- Coors Light (we'll import this for the college kids, but it will be known as the "Potentially Lethal Argentum Ballistic Projectile" instead of the "Silver Bullet"--marketing is everything!)



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20 Oct 2009, 6:48 pm

Control of your own food supply does not mean a bunker of fifty pound bags of dog food.

Beer is good, as is good bread, and meat. The area I am looking at has farming for melons, onions, lots of good food and very fresh. I can contract for year round fresh everything.

It is also on the main road to several large tourist attractions, well located for, the last stop before..

Calling it something like the Aspie Secret City, will drag in the curious from the spectrum.

Since their talents do lie in being unemployed, underemployed, and being unemployable, and they like to eat, they are a ready off the books labor force.

The working for a wage so you can live somewhere and eat, ends when you live somewhere and eat.

Money can be traced, but labor vanishes.

The location will bring in road trade, there is nothing else around. Motels and RV Parks do well, not as vast income, but as a constant cash flow. As a place to rest, perhaps an RV wash, to stock up on high quality fresh food, good bread, ( near National Parks the stores sell ice, Bunny bread, beer, and cokes).

Then we have our speciality in maps, and I have the 24" printers.

Phase two would be a staging area for guided hikes. CanyonWind's aspie would make a good tour guide. Seeing the best of National Parks it helps to have someone local with a pack mule, that can go in and set up a base camp, and have food waiting when the day hikers return.

Six horses, two mules, several guides, cooks, base tents, more for sleeping, and you have a package that will sell, and bring in good money. City Slickers done aspie style.

I do a lot of Geology tours, some gold panning, better rocks, and getting there, staying there, is the main problem. There are a lot of places where a day's panning will produce enough gold to see. Other places have semi precious stones. At a rock hound tourist educational level there is money in being the outfitter, and in the off season, better places to work.

As for the town, I like to eat and sleep. I have heard others do too. Sleeping is easy, food combined in a mess hall makes the most sense, chuck wagon style. Fresh, natural, right from the oven, with beer.

As for skills needed in town, it does need work, cleaning, painting, repairs, and building. This is adobe country. There is enough work that most could earn their bunk and grub.

I see aspie as a horse left too long in the stall, they need some outside, some trail work, and they will become good stock.

I do have some inside work, publishing, light manufacturing, so I am tooled up for the jobs. I picked a place with water, power, Post Office, UPS, because that is what I use. The easy way to make money is have next to no overhead.

I like what I do, but not where I live. The quality of life is the most important thing. To look out and see vast spaces, mountains, and to cross those mountains on foot, by horse, to spend time in nature, and to be under the clear night skys when the stars cover the sky. These are the times in my life I think the best. I would like to share the back country with groups of six for $500 a day.

In town I think an economy would develop beyond food and shelter. I am weak on marketing, until the internet came along. Better rocks do still sell, and in a down market, is the best time to spread your production and marketing, and be in place if it ever picks up again.

Of the skills I have space and systems. I can fix machines, design and build them, I am good at maps, which is geology, trails, and I do get along with animals. I can program a town. Water, food, shelter, sewer, and economic base.

So the town needs a mule skinner that can throw a diamond hitch, a cook, more writers, as I do have the machines to bind a thousand books a day, some internet marketers, web page development, lots of subjects, someone to work the pack train, riding horses, and guides that will learn the local land. There are some old hundred mile trails.

I do see the potential for aspie tourism. Most places are too busy for them to enjoy. I like silent, and not having to speak. In town or out on the trail it can be very relaxing. Renting a cabin in a National Park runs $50 a day and up, plus you have to bring your own bedding and food. Club Aspie can offer a package deal.

There are people who can only live where they can work, those who can afford to live, where rates are low, and those who can afford to live, and invest in business development. There are those like myself who have a business that needs to relocate.

Then there are those who would start fires, shoot at passing cars, and demand UN recognition. Hangings will be held Tuesday after lunch.

I do not see this as a homeland, just a place where the odd pieces found on WP could fit together and build something. I have learned a lot about autism on WP, and seen the world view change in a few years. I think the true test of it will come in isolated projects, being out in nature, working with animals. This is a minimalist support system.

As for a nation, or city, those things start from a village that works, grows, and is copied by other villages, forming a local culture that spreads because it works.

A system has all the parts needed to function, nothing missing, nothing extra.



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21 Oct 2009, 7:53 am

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Aspergia becomes a nation! What do you do!


i would feel that a group of idiotic misfit NT's have somehow claimed some land and they are hijacking what true AS is with their ideas of "indigo children" and their belief that they are superior in every respect to non AS people.

i really would believe that the self chosen administrators of such a sovereignty were egotistical people who's main aim was to prove they are smarter than everyone else.

there is an extreme immigration to the self diagnosis of AS, and there are all sorts of people who should go to the doctor and find out they are just misguided rather than autistic.

i feel that people who are obviously socially integrated in a normal way and who go to many parties and use the word "dude" etc can not speak for me.

if the idea of AS gets hogged and clogged by people who are stuffed full of conceit and want to imply they are rare, then they just pollute the idea like tourists to a pristine wilderness.

there are not enough true AS people on the earth i think to compile a "nation".

for every hundred persons that claim to be AS, i believe about 2.

i know i am not an authority, but i am the only person who thinks in my head and that is what i believe.


I think that.



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26 Oct 2009, 12:25 pm

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This topic of a nation consisting of those of us with Asperger's reminds me of a thought I had.


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Why is it taking place in the 'roaring 20s' :?
That's not too cool for some people as certain social events of that time weren't friendly for some aspies. Thout the Art Deco would be cool. It'd be better for it to be cyberpunk

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Ok, I know, maybe a little tacky. But you do have to admit that Grandin's would have to serve steak---humanely slaughtered of course.


I have the story with Autistic and other neurodiverse people in space connected by implants to achieve a slight hivemind. slight hivemind, that it. And spaceships named Tesla, Grandin, Autistic Rage, etc.

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Don't want to be stuck in a social ghetto where the only other people I meet are aspies.


In the ghetto..... :P
The ghetto is where the FUN stuff happens. And besides, there are new immigrants - new ghettoites who bring info from the NT worlds.

b9 wrote:
i would feel that a group of idiotic misfit NT's have somehow claimed some land and they are hijacking what true AS is with their ideas of "indigo children" and their belief that they are superior in every respect to non AS people.


well there would be hard rabid Aspie nationalists who would be for autistic supremacy - and they wouldn't be indigo or identify with it.


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26 Oct 2009, 12:33 pm

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I think against aspies their tactics will fail even worse than usual though.


Not when we're using highly mechanized units. Though if those fail OH SHI-

It'd be fun to go into the woods & mountains. Though I'd need to wear gloves and an air-tight suit camoflauged.

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Can you imagine the CIA types at Guantanamobama, now located in Texas, trying to get information from a captured aspie?


yeah. I admit I'd probably crack fast. Have a story where during the world revolution an autistic n***a assisting black nationalist guerillas in the urban ghettos gets captured. Due to him being autistic and all they pass him over for detailed interrogation and focus on the more 'social' insurgents. Before they recognize they messed up, the aspie n***a and some of the other insurgents are broken out in a massive prison break. "If they knew who I was, I'd crack like a muffafucka" :D


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26 Oct 2009, 12:58 pm

Build myself a 1960s type house and fill it with vintage appliances and British records, and Routemasters. I'd also get a drum set like the one that Mick Avory used in the 1960s, with the kinky boots logo, custom made just for me.


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26 Oct 2009, 12:59 pm

I'd have to move there before I do all that, though.


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26 Oct 2009, 4:09 pm

I'd lobby to give people the power of non-lethal self-defense. In other words, everyone should be allowed to use a weapon of some sorts to disperse people who give them trouble. I'm referring to things like stink bombs, flashbang grenades, tear gas, tasers, pepper sprays, and of course, Mosquito alarms. Also, I'd make all lockers in school wired to an alarm system, to prevent aspies' lockers from being broken into by bullies.



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26 Oct 2009, 6:04 pm

Locustman wrote:
I wouldn't want to live there, personally (although I'd probably visit).

Don't want to be stuck in a social ghetto where the only other people I meet are aspies.

I always try and avoid that kind of marginalisation in real life, so it doesn't particularly appeal to me even as a fantasy.


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27 Oct 2009, 7:53 am

I'd grab some kevlar, a light MG and as much ammo as possible and bunker in. A nation run by people with aspergers would inevitably be militarily run for at least a while. Mostly non-socialising peoples give way to whoever has guns/is willing to shout louder.

After that? Build mecha. I'm sure there'd be a research facility built within months of it's establishment.



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27 Oct 2009, 9:41 am

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I'll go live there with my AS wife and my HFA daughter only at those condition:

- the citizenship should be made based on common behaviour/belief and if some weird NT would came, should be welcome, It shouldn't be an "Aspie nation" it should be an "Aspie style nation" (that's different).
- you shouldn't have highly populated building and it must be in a natural environment.
- At least 20% of the incoming must be used for research and development.
- I want to be part of the scientific department.

As for pupulation, there are 6bilions people in the world if only 1/200 will go there (and actually 1/100 are on the spectrum so we are talking at about 50% of AS people) we would have 30 milions people, 30 milion is a good number for a nation, far more than many european nations.


A common behavior/belief seems lacking. But the idea that one can be imposed seems broad.

By Aspie Style Nation, it will be run in secret.

Highly populated buildings produce NT thinking, and are targets, all we need are some light surface works for the Eloei. America has vast open spaces, it will be so natural you would think it another planet. Underground is the best place for development, production, and survival. We came from the caves.

Running all income through research, development, production, increases wealth, employment, and tax credits.

Science is really the only business to be in. The main asset worth gaining is the future.