parents decided to take away my latop on weekdays.

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25 Oct 2009, 1:26 pm

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My mom and dad are both like that as well. I'm just glad I didn't get my genes from my legal father. For once, I think I'm pretty damn glad to have been adopted, rather than the genetic progeny of that man... Now if only my mother wasn't my real mother...

(After so long trying to reason with two adults, finding they constantly expect you to bend to their whims, belittling you, treating you like a little servant, you learn to hate them.)



:(. i feel like that sometimes. but i think i am in denial to use the word "hate''



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26 Oct 2009, 12:31 pm

well, i left the letter on my mom's laptop last night. and today when i came home from school my computer was still in my room. :D. she says she will take it away at a certain time. this still isnt good. maybe i can help change that. really, being on the comp needs to be within the last 10 minutes of my going to bed. it's part of my routine D:
but at least it isnt GONE! :D



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26 Oct 2009, 12:41 pm

You live in Istanbul, OP. Can't you wander the city and look at the bridges, buildings, business districts, etc? That's what I do in Chicago...


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26 Oct 2009, 12:53 pm

not at night!



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26 Oct 2009, 1:50 pm

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You live in Istanbul, OP. Can't you wander the city and look at the bridges, buildings, business districts, etc? That's what I do in Chicago...

1. She is female. Its more dangerous to walk alone at night, you get harassed by men, are putting yourself at greater risks for rape. Its hard to understand for you, because you are a guy.
2. Istanbul is not Chicago. As much as some people think Chicago is a dangerous place...its not. Most of the city is pretty safe. There are certian violent pockets of the city, but outside of those pockets its a great city to live in. I used to live there myself, Chicago was a wonderful adventure. Istanbul is a very different city for a woman to live in than Chicago (or NYC).



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26 Oct 2009, 3:05 pm

Wow. I certainly know how you feel. I've faced that many times. My parents I could almost say despise the internet. They say it's not healthy, I'm obsessed, it's dangerous, well, so many things. But yes, I know what you mean, about how one misses one's internet friends, messageboards, iming, everything. If my parents ever found out half the stuff messageboards I visit, or how I use it as a source of information on interesting topics, I'd be dead.

I couldn't write a letter or anything because my handwriting's HORRIBLE, but maybe they could just take away like the internet access?

Other than that, try to give them a hard time. That's what I did with mine. :lol: I would simply dress in my worst clothes, spend time running after and playing with the cat, listening to my music, the same song over and over and over again, which they hate, although now I know why I like it, reading my books, and watching my cartoons, and doing everything they hate to see me doing, which is just about everything about me. The point is, if they gave me my laptop back, they'd be free of me.



26 Oct 2009, 4:01 pm

Oh god, when my mom took the computer from me when I was 17, I gave her the silent treatment and people told me I was being a brat and my shrink said I was being immature acting like a young child. But I didn't do those things when I was little. When she take my bike or my dolls or computer, I didn't give her the silent treatment, I just accepted it and waited till the punishment was over. I just knew not do to X again because I hated it being taken. I think what I did when I was 17 had to do with my feelings changed and emotions and that happens in all kids when they hit their teens. No my mom didn't give in on me and she ignored my pacing and depression and I stimmed more. I had a strong mother.



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26 Oct 2009, 4:21 pm

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Wow. I certainly know how you feel. I've faced that many times. My parents I could almost say despise the internet. They say it's not healthy, I'm obsessed, it's dangerous, well, so many things. But yes, I know what you mean, about how one misses one's internet friends, messageboards, iming, everything. If my parents ever found out half the stuff messageboards I visit, or how I use it as a source of information on interesting topics, I'd be dead.


exactly.



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26 Oct 2009, 4:46 pm

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


GRRRRR. they say i HAVE to be off of it by 9:00pm. and im not allowed to use it to listen to music either!! !. what am i supposed to f****n do?!?!?! they stay up until 12 am sometimes, so it bugs me awake. and i just cannot go to bed that early! i tried already, my brain was a wreck.
what does stupid mother expect me to do?! sit in my room for 4 hours listening to their tv braely from 3 rooms away (this kills me!), with no music? they took away my iPod, as well. i told her i cant function like that, and i need music to do hw and to get ready for bed and keep noises out. AND I NEED MY STUPID COMPUTER FOR MY ROUTINE. if i dont go directly from it to my get ready for bed routine then into actual bed, it feels SO WRONG. it makes me depressed. and my internet friends are active around 10-12 pm. :cry: like, between actual 9 pm and 12 am are my most important relaxation browsing hours. she cant just change this!
i tried telling her this stuff, and she closed the door on me, and said if i disagreed, id get it taken away permanently.
why cant she just trust me when i say things?!?!?! !! how the hell am i supposed to explain to her a routine and its impritance or something, if she doesnt even believe AS is possible in me?! SHES IN DENIAL. SHES A NARROWMINDED SUBMONKEY.
WHY CANT SHE UNDERSTAND THIS STUPID THING WONT WORK. SOEM THINGS YOU CANT COMPROMISE IN. GRRRR!! !! !!
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even right now im not supposed to be on, it's almost 12 am. :x



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26 Oct 2009, 5:22 pm

If I read through some of the overly-verbose comments correctly the OP is a US citizen, correct? If not then stop reading...
Generally speaking, in the US a minor is not allowed to own property or money (there are minimums to this but perhaps the computer could apply). Assuming the OP is a US citizen AND the 'puter is question was purchased by the parents (even if it were "gifted to the child in question) it is the property of the parents to do with as they please.
I hear the frustration (and a lot of antagonizing on behalf of many participants on this thread) but in this case, to minimize the impact on your well-being I would simple acquiesce until you are old enough to move out.
And if you think that by turning 18 your parents will magically see things your way you are mistaken.
It's the age-old rule: He or she who owns the house is always right.
You're 17 and have a long life of joy and frustration ahead of you- this is but one miniscule hiccup along the way.
Let this bother you and they win.



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26 Oct 2009, 6:29 pm

Yeah, but the computer was purchased by the OP, not by her parents.

Anyway, Spazz, I know we've mentioned books before; and you said you can't get to an English-language library; but what about buying books online? Can you talk your parents into letting you pay them to use their credit/bank card to buy used books from amazon or some other online bookseller? (Reputable, of course.) I'm assuming you don't have a credit/bankcard of your own; or I'd say just go ahead and buy some; but a decent-sized allowance or money from working someplace should be enough to buy enough used books to keep you somewhat entertained. You'd just have to get them to take your money and pay the bookseller with it. Research shipping costs first; they might cost a great deal if you ship from far away; but I am assuming there is probably somebody shipping from reasonably close to you.


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26 Oct 2009, 6:32 pm

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Yeah, but the computer was purchased by the OP, not by her parents.


Again, this point is moot considering that a US minor cannot legally "own" property or even money. It wasn't her money to purchase the 'puter to begin with.
I know it's frustrating and doesn't seem fair, but then the world is not a fair place. Better to learn this now then to be shocked at the truth when out on your own.



Last edited by WritersBlock on 26 Oct 2009, 6:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

26 Oct 2009, 6:35 pm

If a seven year old buys an old Game Boy at a yard sale for seven bucks, would it be wrong fo the parents to take that away as a punishment?



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26 Oct 2009, 7:37 pm

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If a seven year old buys an old Game Boy at a yard sale for seven bucks, would it be wrong fo the parents to take that away as a punishment?


No. The little sod should have bought a Sega Game Gear instead :lol: .



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26 Oct 2009, 8:09 pm

It might be legal to take away a laptop that your child bought with money that you only technically own, but it isn't anywhere near right.


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26 Oct 2009, 8:28 pm

In the sense of morals, I would say that really depends on how she got the money to begin with though (and if this has been mentioned, forgive me; I didn't read all five pages, just the first and last two). If she has a job and bought the computer with money from the paycheck, it's a little less fair. If it's from an allowance given by the parents, then I really can't see how it isn't fair, because then it's essentially a gift. And even with the former, unless she contributes to the electricty and internet access bills, then it's still not all that wrong; let the computer run on battery life without internet and then it's morally wrong, but not otherwise. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's the way I see it.

OP, try to get over it, because the more you get upset over it, the more unfun it's going to be. I understand how you feel - my parents took away both my iPod and my computer at various points around that age - but trust me, in retrospect, it's not nearly as important as it seems now. If your parents are like mine, acting angry will accomplish absolutely nothing; you'll just brood more and more. Maybe search sites for things to plan to do when you're offline; write, make some sort of craft, meditate, something. It'll go a lot faster if you're not thinking about it.


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