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Where do you like on the political spectrum?
Conservative 14%  14%  [ 11 ]
Liberal 23%  23%  [ 18 ]
Libertarian 27%  27%  [ 21 ]
Communist 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
Socialist 30%  30%  [ 23 ]
Total votes : 77

Michael_Stuart
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12 Apr 2010, 9:52 am

Jaydee wrote:
In Norway health care is free for all (health insurance is completely superfluous), as is education from primary school up to and including university and colleges.


This is the part of socialism I like. Equal opportunity, and no one has to go bankrupt because they get sick in a way which wasn't their fault. It's the "redistribute the wealth" part I am thoroughly against. Now, if only I spoke Norwegian...



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12 Apr 2010, 11:06 am

Michael_Stuart wrote:
Equal opportunity, and no one has to go bankrupt because they get sick in a way which wasn't their fault. It's the "redistribute the wealth" part I am thoroughly against.

It's hard to know how valid the science is without really scrutinising it, but studies appear to show that countries with a large difference in wealth between the richest and poorest have the worst social problems - not just the obvious problems like more law-breaking, but the whole spectrum of malaise, right through the entire social strata. My own view is that a small wealth differential might be OK, but the levels we see in the UK and the USA (for example) are way too large. I'd definitely vote to reduce it, if they ever were so bold as to ask the people what they want. I feel capitalism has let us down so badly that any decent government would want to set up small-scale experiments into alternative economic systems....we often hear this stuff about there being no alternative to the free market, but as far as I can see nobody's ever really looked for one.



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12 Apr 2010, 11:23 am

I used to be as liberal as they come, but then I started reading and seeking out news for myself, as opposed to relying on NBC (which, looking back on it, is very black and white/"good guys vs. bad guys," ignoring that both parties do bad things).
I now consider myself a libertarian, though I don't like to associate myself with a party.

The two party system is terrible. And the fact that most Americans don't know what's going on genuinely worries me. The democratic party and the republican party are not good guys and bad guys; they do the same things, make the same mistakes, and the end result is always the same. Whether we are being controlled by force or by being subdued and misinformed into thinking we want the control, in the end we have lost all power. America is not a democracy. We are a republic.

sadface.



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12 Apr 2010, 11:38 am

Anarchist



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12 Apr 2010, 10:22 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
tenalpgnorw wrote:
I never got the whole "Rage Against the Machine" style anarcho-communism. The idea is that all these powerful violent people are in power and want to control you, so fight against the power and get the power for yourselves.

The unspoken corollary is that you continue to violently gain power until you can force people to obey your ideals and conform to your demands. Thus, those who fight hard enough against "the man", themselves become "the man".

It has no end, no goal, no purpose other than existing for the very sake of being pissed-off.


Sure, we're fighting a war that we probably can't win in this lifetime, but the only alternative is to lie back and take it up the butt from the elite, and that's even worse. If it weren't for resistance, they'd have us well and truly under their thumb.


very well put, both.
sounds to me like they do it right in Norway.


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13 Apr 2010, 12:10 am

I cannot be placed neatly into any designated political unit.