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29 Jun 2010, 11:00 am

just thought I'd let you all know . Im going to get mine replaced asap, but it will still probably be a few months

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29 Jun 2010, 4:13 pm

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Yup, and I quit going to my dentist because I was sick of getting an x-ray every visit. My teeth aren't going anywhere! Why the HELL do they have to be x-rayed every six months even though nothing had changed. That's just quackery.


I don't know about your case, but they shouldn't be doing that. x-ray should only be taken when needed for assessment, treatment planning, or during certain procedure.


That would make sense to me. But I've been x-rayed so many times by so many different dentists that I'm surprised I don't glow in the dark!

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Maybe you should talk to your dentist about it, ask him why he take x-ray every six month. Also you have every right to refuse x-ray.


Sure, if you *enjoy* having an hour-long argument about the necessity of seeing what's going on in my mouth. I tried to stop it the last couple of times and got lectured to and argued with until I jsut gave in. Now I just don't go anymore. If I'm not in the chair, I don't have to defend my right not to be irradiated to death.

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do you know what kind of x-ray is it?
bitewing? periapical? OPG?


I'm not an x-ray technician. They put lead on me, point a thing at me, and leave the room. If it's so safe for me, I want them to stand right next to me while I get it next time!

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you mentioned that you hav periodontal disease. Is it chronic periodontitis? that might be the reason. but talk to your dentist about it. you dont have to take it if you don't feel comfortable to =)


I had gum disease but I healed it through diet and proper home hygiene. The hygienist said she was amazed because I completely reversed all my pockets, even very deep ones, in just six months and didn't have gum disease any more.

And yes, I don't have to take it if I don't feel comfortable to . . . I can stop going to the dentist and then they can't do it to me. Otherwise, I can sit in the chair and get argued to until I'm in tears and near-meltdown and give up and take the x-ray because I feel trapped and suffering and can only get them to shut up if I take it. I couldn't even get up and walk out in the middle of the argument because they kept pushing me back down into the chair and saying, "just let me explain the importance to you. Of course ít's your choice, but you need to know . . ."

They SAY you can choose not to, but they make it impossible to make that choice. So if I just don't go in the office at all, I don't have to fight for my rights and lose anyway.

I HATE dentists. They have so much power and they abuse it! I wouldn't even be friends with a dentist because I am so angry at how evil they are.


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29 Jun 2010, 8:19 pm

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I'm not an x-ray technician. They put lead on me, point a thing at me, and leave the room. If it's so safe for me, I want them to stand right next to me while I get it next time!

it's either bitewing or periapical. in your case, it might be a pericapical to assess your deep pockets.
good that they put lead on you =) in our dental clinic, my male collegues jokes a lot by pointing the x-ray tube on each other's p*nis and testicles LOL I wonder if oneday someone just push the trigger bottom when they're playing around like that...
those x-ray are extremely low dosage, you need to take a couple hundreds in a year to be in risk. As dental worker needs to take many in a day. they prefer not to stand in there LOL. but ya, you're right, it still has its risk.

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Sure, if you *enjoy* having an hour-long argument about the necessity of seeing what's going on in my mouth. I tried to stop it the last couple of times and got lectured to and argued with until I jsut gave in. Now I just don't go anymore. If I'm not in the chair, I don't have to defend my right not to be irradiated to death.

I guess your dentists have their point if they insist on taking it. if it's just one or two every 6 months you will be alright.

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I had gum disease but I healed it through diet and proper home hygiene. The hygienist said she was amazed because I completely reversed all my pockets, even very deep ones, in just six months and didn't have gum disease any more.

Oh WOW, well done!! ! that's really amazing. things like that rarely ever happens! congradulations :D

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I couldn't even get up and walk out in the middle of the argument because they kept pushing me back down into the chair and saying, "just let me explain the importance to you. Of course ít's your choice, but you need to know . . ."

LOL yep, that does sounds like what a dentist would do. If they bother to argue that much with you, it must be quite important then =) dont worry about it, as i mentioned before, you need a couple hundreds to use up the safty threshold.

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I HATE dentists. They have so much power and they abuse it! I wouldn't even be friends with a dentist because I am so angry at how evil they are.

I used to get bullied in school a lot, still do in uni. When I entered dentistry, my bf said to me, when you graduate, everyone's gonna be scared of you. Not sure if that's a good thing or not :P I got an offer from medicine as well, but my parents insist that I accept the dentistry offer... i said to mum one day, thanks to you, now I'm in the the most hated business...

There are extremely good dentists, you have to shop around. I can understand that it's frustrating to shop around coz whenever you go to a new place, they want to take another OPG (the full mouth one), which is a much larger dosage, and then they asess your mouth all over again... It took my parents 48 years to finally find a good dentist :P It took my bf's family 20 years to find a good one in Melbourne. Before that, they have been to 10+ different dentists...

It's just like doctors, many of them are quite dodgy, and shopping around can be frustrating. I've been seeing many psychiatrists just to find a good one, but I still can't find one, and I'm sick of re-telling my stories again and again, so I kinda just settle down with my current one, who is not very nice to me :? ... But when you find a good one, you can really feel the difference :)


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29 Jun 2010, 8:44 pm

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I guess your dentists have their point if they insist on taking it. if it's just one or two every 6 months you will be alright.


It's zero times now because I'm not going back unless a tooth falls apart. That lead thing doesn't cover my thyroid and I already have strong genetic factors when it comes to the thyroid. I don't want to live on thyroid drugs and ill the rest of my life. I want to protect my thyroid as much as possible!

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I couldn't even get up and walk out in the middle of the argument because they kept pushing me back down into the chair and saying, "just let me explain the importance to you. Of course ít's your choice, but you need to know . . ."

LOL yep, that does sounds like what a dentist would do.


What? Be an infuriating bully and drive autistics into meltdowns so they can have their way with them? I knew there was a reason I hate dentists. They are emotional rapists.

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When I entered dentistry, my bf said to me, when you graduate, everyone's gonna be scared of you.


I'm not afraid of dentists -- I'm homicidally angry at them. All that abuse and pushing me back into the chair and they never did say why it was important to radiate me. Just gave me baby explanations like, "it's important because we're trying to take care of your teeth. You like keeping your teeth, don't you?" I'm not a child. I have the capability to understand fairly complex medical explanations. And I will not patronize bullies!

And I don't like you very much for saying that it's a good thing that they bullied me. Then again, you are going to dental school so guess what they are teaching you? You are wasting your time telling me how great dentists are. Every time you defend how they bullied me, you only make me hate them more than I did before. Because they are teaching one of My Kind to tell people that the bullying they do is "for your own good." No thank you.

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There are extremely good dentists, you have to shop around.


Tell my government that. They are the ones who pay my dental insurance so they are the ones who say what I can or cannot do. Shopping around is not on the program. Holistic dentists are not on the program. I cannot choose a healthy dentist, only one who is part of the disease system.

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I can understand that it's frustrating to shop around coz whenever you go to a new place, they want to take another OPG (the full mouth one), which is a much larger dosage, and then they asess your mouth all over again...


They are complete idiots as well as bullies! All they have to do is request records from the previous dentist. He's got stacks of x-rays of my full mouth. And I would trust my health and life to someone that stupid, that they didn't even know how to look at someone else's x-rays?

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It took my parents 48 years to finally find a good dentist :P It took my bf's family 20 years to find a good one in Melbourne. Before that, they have been to 10+ different dentists...


Not for me. I have been learning how to take care of it all myself. I will only go back to those hideous beasts if something catastrophic happens in my mouth. I wish all dentists would stop drinking the kool-aid handed to them in dental schools and open their eyes to what damage they are doing to people. I don't have much respect for mainstream medicine but I put dentists on the bottom of the trash heap. They are so barbaric and stupid I'm surprised they aren't still using leeches to bleed people for bad humours.

And if you tell me how I shouldn't feel this way and I should just go see the nice dentist man, you will only make me hate them more. Please don't do that to me as I'm already raising my blood pressure just thinking about those hacks. In fact, I'm turning off notification for this thread now because it makes me so angry to hear you tell me that it's right that they pushed me in my chair and refused to let me leave and bullied me into hysterics. That's just wrong and I won't listen to it any more. I care too much about my calm and health to stay in this thread and let you keep telling me that it was right for someone in power to bully me and refuse me a choice about my own health care.


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30 Jun 2010, 12:21 am

Sparrowrose wrote:
What? Be an infuriating bully and drive autistics into meltdowns so they can have their way with them? I knew there was a reason I hate dentists. They are emotional rapists.

I think you misunderstood what I meant there.

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I'm not afraid of dentists -- I'm homicidally angry at them. All that abuse and pushing me back into the chair and they never did say why it was important to radiate me. Just gave me baby explanations like, "it's important because we're trying to take care of your teeth. You like keeping your teeth, don't you?" I'm not a child. I have the capability to understand fairly complex medical explanations. And I will not patronize bullies!

hmmm...that's bad. They are suppose to give you proper explanations, baby explanations is simply not good enough. I don't know how he graduated from dental school if he has been giving patients baby explanations. it soulds more like he's just being lazy. Not good at all.

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And I don't like you very much for saying that it's a good thing that they bullied me. Then again, you are going to dental school so guess what they are teaching you? You are wasting your time telling me how great dentists are. Every time you defend how they bullied me, you only make me hate them more than I did before. Because they are teaching one of My Kind to tell people that the bullying they do is "for your own good." No thank you.

I did not say it's a good thing that they bully you. I just said that it' good that they explain things to you, becoz I've seen dentist who would not explain anything and just go their own way. I don't know how their attitudes are towards you, I guess they must have approached you in forceful way :(

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Tell my government that. They are the ones who pay my dental insurance so they are the ones who say what I can or cannot do. Shopping around is not on the program. Holistic dentists are not on the program. I cannot choose a healthy dentist, only one who is part of the disease system.

I see. In Austraila we don't have government insurance for dental visit, which means we can choose, but also means we have to pay a huge amount of money ourselves. I guess nothing is perfect :?

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They are complete idiots as well as bullies! All they have to do is request records from the previous dentist. He's got stacks of x-rays of my full mouth. And I would trust my health and life to someone that stupid, that they didn't even know how to look at someone else's x-rays?

Your dentist can't interpret x-rays? :?

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Not for me. I have been learning how to take care of it all myself. I will only go back to those hideous beasts if something catastrophic happens in my mouth. I wish all dentists would stop drinking the kool-aid handed to them in dental schools and open their eyes to what damage they are doing to people. I don't have much respect for mainstream medicine but I put dentists on the bottom of the trash heap. They are so barbaric and stupid I'm surprised they aren't still using leeches to bleed people for bad humours.

I feel horrible as a dentist-to-be that this is how you feel about dentists :? Our university doesn't teach us much about communicating with patients. We have to figure out our own way. I guess that's where the problems comes in. That's why it is important for a student to go out of the uni and watch other dentists work, but if they're learning from a horrible dentist...it's only gonna make it worse.
I have been in the dental clinic for half year, and I still have trouble communicating, partially becoz of AS. I'm going to my parent's dentist for a week to watch him work, so hopefully I'll learn some good things there :)

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And if you tell me how I shouldn't feel this way and I should just go see the nice dentist man, you will only make me hate them more. Please don't do that to me as I'm already raising my blood pressure just thinking about those hacks. In fact, I'm turning off notification for this thread now because it makes me so angry to hear you tell me that it's right that they pushed me in my chair and refused to let me leave and bullied me into hysterics. That's just wrong and I won't listen to it any more. I care too much about my calm and health to stay in this thread and let you keep telling me that it was right for someone in power to bully me and refuse me a choice about my own health care.

I'm sorry that I made you feel this way. I didn't mean to, and again, I think you've misinterpret what I was saying. Guess you won't see my reply then.


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