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05 Feb 2013, 12:42 pm

Going to a zoo is not immature at all, my brother and a small group of his mates all went to the zoo last week (no children involved), just for a day out. They are in their mid 20s.


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05 Feb 2013, 6:40 pm

I am EXTREMLEY immature (then again, what teenager isn't) i still play with toys, i laugh at the word 'poop' 'bum' and 'pee pee' (LOL) i announce when i see dog poo and start laughing and i watch cartoons. but im good at making decisions and thinking out a problem, so if someone asks me to go out drinking (I HATE the idea of alcohol) i would absolutely say no because its dangerous and can lead to addictions.



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30 Aug 2015, 3:58 am

EaglesSayMeow wrote:
Well, I think it's been said before that most people like to do these things (cartoons, zoos, etc). Perhaps it's just that if you're missing some social cues, you don't realize it's wrong and therefore broadcast it a bit more?

Just a guess.


Erm.... Don't realize it's wrong??? Why would it be wrong to like Zoos & Christmas or cartoons? What should one pretend they don't enjoy these things as adults? It's quite cool if they do, because it shows they haven't just forgotten how to have fun, which is very easy to do when you're an adult.



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30 Aug 2015, 4:05 am

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I don't believe that autistic people are necessarily immature. Rather, they don't really "get around" or have experiences like other people their age (because they are completely isolated), so their mindset doesn't change as they get older.

This. :)
No matter how much you try to defy the idea. You environment, in part, shapes who you are.
At the same time I understand any Aspie who just doesn't WANT to partake in that stuff because I was largely the same in my teens.



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30 Aug 2015, 7:55 am

EternalSunshine wrote:
I don't believe that autistic people are necessarily immature. Rather, they don't really "get around" or have experiences like other people their age (because they are completely isolated), so their mindset doesn't change as they get older.


That is part of it but there are other considerations such as our comparative disinterest in NT type social competitiveness...
We tend not to focus on presenting/creating a social image to impress others...



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30 Aug 2015, 8:05 am

AlexWelshman wrote:
Erm.... Don't realize it's wrong??? Why would it be wrong to like Zoos & Christmas or cartoons? What should one pretend they don't enjoy these things as adults? It's quite cool if they do, because it shows they haven't just forgotten how to have fun, which is very easy to do when you're an adult.


I don't think most chicky-babes are that impressed with boy-men...
There is a tendency for the "gentle sex" to like the bad boys...
Rebel without a clue types...
Posturing poncy peacocks...
Jocks...etc... ;)



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30 Aug 2015, 8:35 am

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Are Autistic People More Immature


I can't speek for everyone but for me personally yes.

I do believe that I am very immature for my age.

It's not really with the things that I do or my behaviour as such.

It's more to do with how I view the world. I always think that I see the world through the eyes of someone much younger.

I have a naivety about me and an innocence (that is not to say I am innocent).


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31 Aug 2015, 12:01 am

tough call, at least for myself. I was more mature in dealing with adults, but less mature in dealing with age-peers.



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31 Aug 2015, 12:09 am

No, I'm far more mature than most other 21 year olds. I'm fully capable of taking care of myself, cooking, cleaning, etc. Pain also seems to have of way of prematurely teaching maturity. Go back 2 years though and I'd be less mature in many ways than those around me.



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31 Aug 2015, 12:17 am

I think it comes from not having a social sense of yourself as an adult, like you've never developed an adult social identity so you are still the same person you were as a child no matter what your age.



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31 Aug 2015, 3:08 am

I think in some ways perhaps since it is considered a 'developmental disorder' but I know I personally don't really have a lot of 'childhood' interests per say. Typically if I watch a 'cartoon' its because it's one both kids and adults can find entertainment in, it's anime because I like that from time to time or its a more adult oriented cartoon like Metalocalypse or South Park which I certainly would not recommend for little kids. I do like to play League of Legends rather regularly and sometimes play console games which some regard as an 'immature' interest...but it doesn't really seem that uncommon for adults to play games so not sure why that is seen as an immature interest necessarily.

I do use cannabis, and like to drink some(avoid overdoing it though) and have tried other drugs...and smoke cigarettes, so I've had those sorts of post childhood experiences, I guess technically I first tried cannabis and alcohol when I was 16, didn't try anything else until I was 20.

I like to think of myself as being rather up to date on social issues going on and thus far I've signed petitions and try 'spreading the word' on social networking sites like facebook or forums even kinda like this....would like to find more ways to get involved with stuff like that. I feel that is a fairly mature kind of interest. I've also dated guys and have had a few short lived relationships...but I've mostly only ever initially met guys I've dated online since I've been out of highschool, except for that guy my first year of college who turned out to be sort of a douchebag.

I like music a lot, mostly metal and various forms of rock and would consider myself a metalhead...I guess a lot of 'adults' think you ought to surrender your metal t-shirts, ripped jeans, patch vests, long and/or unkempt hair, leather wrist bands ect. when you get to be around 25 to 30 if not earlier...I imagine punks have the same issue except more mohawks/random crazy hair cuts than the long hair. Goths well their style is more 'elegant' you could say but I am sure there are adults who figure they ought to surrender anything that might oust them as a goth. Well some of us subculture people never grow out of it so....

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But that is just me, some people my identify a lot more with interests more associated with younger children...but its not really an accurate generalization for Autism Spectrum Disorders as a whole.


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31 Aug 2015, 3:17 am

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Is somebody is sociophobic, afraid of everything, can't use public transport, manage basic things and get a job - yes, they're immature.


What if you're 'unemployable', can manage basic things moderately well, can use public transit, aren't afraid of everything...but have anxiety disorders and isn't sociophobic but rather initiating interaction with a stranger-a-phobic, but can hold conversation if they initiate?


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31 Aug 2015, 3:25 am

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No if anything we are MORE mature:
You might be scratching your head but I'll explain,

Alot of immaturity is derived from social problems between NT's, male NT's are so damn competitive, NT females are so jealous at times, they they do stupid and mean and immature things to each other to hurt each other and then get revenge.
Not saying this never happens to Aspies, but since we are less extraverted, we are generally not inclined to get caught up in all that bitchy drama crap.
We are also not likely to follow the crowd, and can make open-minded and level headed decisions.

Also there is NOTHING wrong with liking cartoons and holding onto childhood memories, I am in some cases like a child, but I am also responsible, reliable, and educated. I am not inferior to NT's at all, I just think differently :D


I don't know when I start getting too stressed, get really bothered/upset or fall into the gloomy pits of my reoccurring major depression my ability to make level headed decisions kind of goes out the window a little bit or at least becomes a lot harder. I can still make 'open minded' decisions but in that state the decisions I might 'open my mind to' might be terrible.

Also I do not strive to follow 'the crowd' but if I am hanging out with a group of people...I am not going to be vehemently opposed to following along a little bit with the group rather than being contrary about everything. Not to mention I can be terrible at deciding on things to do, sometimes much easier to go along with people who already have some manner of plans. Though I am not going to do something though just because 'all the popular people do' for instance...or because its the latest fad being fed to the masses.


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31 Aug 2015, 3:35 am

Hosting a visitor from overseas who, like myself, is very interested in birds, I took him to the Auckland zoo especially to see the kiwis, though we also really enjoyed seeing the beautiful grounds and other animals who live there - particularly the rare Tasmanian Devils, and we walked through a beautiful park nearby where we saw a native New Zealand white heron, the Kotuku, which is very rarely sighted in this part of New Zealand, (only three sightings in years) which thrilled us both. What a wonderful day it was. If this is immaturity, I aim to be as immature as possible as often as possible whenever possible, and one thing I love about being part of the ASD world is that so many of us have a deep respect for other kinds of animals.

So what is maturity to the OP? I know this is an old post though it would have been revealing to request the OP to define his/her opinion as to what constitutes proper "mature" NT behaviour - and what activities he/she thinks are characteristic of and permissible within his/her definition.. then we can all strive to live up to that, lol. :)

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"Also, sentence structure and word choices more childish, immature, slang etc..."

So kind of NTs to share their superior insights for our own good.. I will certainly bear this in mind if I should decide to do my doctorate after all. What would we do without helpful advice like this from our betters? :)



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31 Aug 2015, 11:01 am

Ive been more immature in interests but more mature in judgement skills then some of my own age group.



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31 Aug 2015, 3:47 pm

B19 wrote:

So kind of NTs to share their superior insights for our own good.. I will certainly bear this in mind if I should decide to do my doctorate after all. What would we do without helpful advice like this from our betters? :)


Irony. I just love it. :lol: