Can austistics have paranormal abilities?

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11 Sep 2010, 6:02 pm

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Ghosts:

We are a results of an evolutionary process from a single celled organism all the way up to us. When we die the electro-chemical processes in our brain stop and that's that. There is no such thing as a soul and there is no such thing as afterlife or ghosts.

The fundamental laws of physics as we know them are immutable! Sure there are things we don't yet know. HOWEVER what we know so far precludes any possibility of what you refer to as paranormal.

If you want to live in a fantasy world, well that's your right. It is my business to correct you and people like you, so fewer individuals follow your example.



I would like to know what you think makes people PEOPLE then, where our personalities come from (not just brain chemistry), WHO we are... And how it comes about in the first place...



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11 Sep 2010, 6:15 pm

People notice my psychic ability. I have never experienced anything that indicates the presence of a ghos t, so I have a hard time believing they exist. I like to watch shows like Ghost Adventures to see what they come up with and if it's enough to convince me ghosts are real. I don't get why they are so awed by "orbs", little balls of light on the film. They look like they could be nearly anything reflecting light, the way a mirror does, but the makers of the show claim it indicates paranormal activity.
The photographs are more interesting. Once, I saw a photograph of someone who looked like a ghost names Chloe who was haunting a southern plantation. The image could have easily been a woman dressed in a costume.



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11 Sep 2010, 6:22 pm

Fluke83 wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Ghosts:

We are a results of an evolutionary process from a single celled organism all the way up to us. When we die the electro-chemical processes in our brain stop and that's that. There is no such thing as a soul and there is no such thing as afterlife or ghosts.

The fundamental laws of physics as we know them are immutable! Sure there are things we don't yet know. HOWEVER what we know so far precludes any possibility of what you refer to as paranormal.

If you want to live in a fantasy world, well that's your right. It is my business to correct you and people like you, so fewer individuals follow your example.



I would like to know what you think makes people PEOPLE then, where our personalities come from (not just brain chemistry), WHO we are... And how it comes about in the first place...


Well I believe in the soul, and we our souls are created shortly after when we are conceived. It is such a complicated area of research but we will never understand it if all we will do is just say its impossible.



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11 Sep 2010, 6:29 pm

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I'm just really curious. I know I've had times when I can feel people's anger or sadness. I feel negative emotion and react to it in a very outburst like manner for no reason. I've noticed that I also sense my grandfather once in a while too. He died when I was a year old but I always feel as if he is always with me. My mom told me that he was my guardian angel.

Whenever I go by a cemetery, I feel like I can feel lost souls. It drains me so much that I feel powerless, weak and even unable to move. I often try to cover myself in a ball or something to get rid of it. I sense spirits but sometimes only in places more likely for them to appear.

I don't if it's just hallucination or not but sometimes I just feel these things. I also believe in paranormal as well and I love anything that has to do with it too. I watch Ghost Hunters the most but haven't lately though. Yet, I also fear having this kind of power. I fear it because sometimes sensing ghosts can be scary and very unknown to me. I know some don't mean harm but there are just times I can't help it.

But then... often times I wonder if I'm just hallucinating or something. I mean I never really know because I feel like this power tends to vary depending on the spirit and if wants to be noticed. I have times when I feel like something else takes over me and I can sense someone else is there. I even hear things no one else hears too.

I used to believe that the laundry room of my house is haunted. Everytime I would stand there I felt like something was actually there. I had a dream that the spirit came to me and I saw it standing there in that dream when I was sleeping on the couch. I often have dreams that have also come true EXACTLY as I had dreamed but not often. It's only happened once but I know it wans't coincedence. I have times when I can sense things too. Not just spirits. Like, I just get this overwhelming feeling something will happen to me. It usually ends up happening.


I just don't know whether to think its something I just want to believe of I really have some sort of power here. D:


The powers "austistics" have are only fictional, mainly revolving around completely memorizing your surroundings and then drawing it.



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11 Sep 2010, 8:44 pm

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There is no such thing as a paranormal ability and the supernatural doesn't exist, by it's own definition.


Ball lightning is considered paranormal/ supernatural. But it exists. And don't say it exists because science has accepted it. In fact, science cannot explain it---but yet they acknowledge its existence. Welcome to the world of the paranormal and the supernatural. It's all around us. Why? Because the definition of the paranormal is, "the range of normal experience or scientific explanation." And the definition of the supernatural is, "anything unexplainable by natural law or phenomena." Well...ball lightning is beyond the range of normal experience, and it definitely defies scientific explanation. And it is unexplainable by natural laws or phenomena. It may one day be understood, but not yet. But it is proven real. And there are paranormal abilities that cannot be explained by scientific methods as well. But yet they exist. The paranormal and supernatural isn't as "ghostly" as many think it to be.


Ball lightning is not supernatural. Even if we don't currently have an explanation for a particular phenomenon, it doesn't mean that known physical laws can't explain it. In any case, there are some suggested explanations for ball lightning, we just don't know what the correct one is.


Therefore it is paranormal/ supernatural by definition---it isn't explained. And neither are savants. Therefore paranormal/ supernatural---by definition.

I am just glad I am open-minded on the paranormal and supernatural.

Now I have to get ready for my sister-in-laws birthday party. That does promise to be supernatural---strange things can happen at those. So...talk with you later.


The definition of supernatural is something that doesn't follow the laws of nature. Since physical law applies to everything in the universe, even the things for which we currently don't have an explanation, the supernatural cannot exist. With regards to claims of the paranormal, they are mostly claims, like hauntings, ESP etc, which have never hold up to scientific scrutiny and a lot of them are hoaxes. If something has been confirmed to exist, I wouldn't use the word paranormal for that reason but they are certainly not supernatural and an explanation is possible. With ball lightning, the fact that there are reasonable hypotheses that could explain it means that it is perfectly natural.


I made my point and my point is valid.

I haven't even read your entire reply because I am tired of debating this. Do I believe ghosts and psychic abilities exist? I believe in the possibility that they can. You cannot prove they don't exist. And I see it as a positive to keep an open mind in this incredibly mysterious universe in which we live. We have no idea the incredible things that lie in its deepest voids.

I do wish to add a theory that I uphold about this matter. But first, understand this definition from Wikipedia. (This is a view largely held by monists and process theorists. According to this view, the "supernatural" is just a term for parts of nature that modern science and philosophy do not yet properly understand, similar to how sound and lightning used to be mysterious forces to science. Materialist monists believe that the "supernatural" consists of things in the physical universe not yet understood by modern science.) I therefore am stating that I do have some materialistic monist views here.

Ghosts? I believe images/ sounds of a life can be recorded onto a yet to be discovered matter in the air we breathe. Energy radiated from this life would through some method become ingrained on this theoretical matter in the air. Under correct atmospheric conditions, the matter "film" would play back. Would this be the actual spirit of that person? Under this theory, "No." It would be no more the spirit of the person than watching home movies of your family.

But science is not yet to discover this. For most believers, ghosts are still in the spiritual world for those who believe in them. Although my tendencies are for materialist monist views, I still retain an open-mind since science cannot explain everything.


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12 Sep 2010, 12:25 am

Well I tried.

So much ignorance makes me very sad.



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12 Sep 2010, 1:12 am

In the 'paranormal' world they call autistics 'empaths'

check it out

Go to mysilentecho . com (This is my first post on this site and I cant link it here)

"A high degree of overall sensitivity is the general indicator for this type of person. All of the sensory organs of an Empath have low thresholds thereby resulting in unusual sensitivity to light, smell, and sound (as well as other subtler senses). Although underlying sensitivity is the unifying factor behind all Empaths, how this sensitivity is "managed" or "funneled" varies from person to person"

Interesting that they say lack of empathy is an autistic trait eh?



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12 Sep 2010, 1:23 am

Dilbert wrote:
Well I tried.

So much ignorance makes me very sad.


How can an afterlife not exist?

If the universe is completely random and time is infinite and we are here now, then eventually we will be here again, right? On an infinite timeline anything that can happen will happen

you talk about ignorance while ignoring the thousands of years of recorded history where people have been studying these paranormal (for lack of a better term) activities. Scientists think themselves smart but cant even figure out the pyramids



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12 Sep 2010, 3:41 am

iheartmegahitt wrote:
I'm just really curious. I know I've had times when I can feel people's anger or sadness. I feel negative emotion and react to it in a very outburst like manner for no reason. I've noticed that I also sense my grandfather once in a while too. He died when I was a year old but I always feel as if he is always with me. My mom told me that he was my guardian angel.

Whenever I go by a cemetery, I feel like I can feel lost souls. It drains me so much that I feel powerless, weak and even unable to move. I often try to cover myself in a ball or something to get rid of it. I sense spirits but sometimes only in places more likely for them to appear.

I don't if it's just hallucination or not but sometimes I just feel these things. I also believe in paranormal as well and I love anything that has to do with it too. I watch Ghost Hunters the most but haven't lately though. Yet, I also fear having this kind of power. I fear it because sometimes sensing ghosts can be scary and very unknown to me. I know some don't mean harm but there are just times I can't help it.

But then... often times I wonder if I'm just hallucinating or something. I mean I never really know because I feel like this power tends to vary depending on the spirit and if wants to be noticed. I have times when I feel like something else takes over me and I can sense someone else is there. I even hear things no one else hears too.

I used to believe that the laundry room of my house is haunted. Everytime I would stand there I felt like something was actually there. I had a dream that the spirit came to me and I saw it standing there in that dream when I was sleeping on the couch. I often have dreams that have also come true EXACTLY as I had dreamed but not often. It's only happened once but I know it wans't coincedence. I have times when I can sense things too. Not just spirits. Like, I just get this overwhelming feeling something will happen to me. It usually ends up happening.

I just don't know whether to think its something I just want to believe of I really have some sort of power here. D:


I experience the same thing. NT's can do it do. Everyone can to a certain degree, but few can do it without training. Its part of a bigger talent of reading "energy". I go to school right now (an accredited school that I get stafford loans for) and am learning about how to use the same ability that people like us can use to sense ghosts, to help people, via massage, bodywork, and energy work. I often talk to my therapist about the fact that I can read people via their energy a lot easier than by reading their emotions. She doesn't always believe me. But I have been learning how to use it to my advantage to overcome some of the difficulties I have as an aspie.... and incorporate it into a successful career that I am training for at school.

There are certain plants, such as the mugwort plant or doing a sage smudge that can help get rid of any "ghosts" or spirits that may be bothering you. Most are not harmful. But be careful in cemeteries though. I use to wander to cemeteries when I was younger whenever I was upset or had been abused (I had a terrible childhood). If there are spirits in the cemetery, they can take advantage of you if they are powerful enough.

Also, the overwhelming feeling that something will happen can also be harnessed to "make" things happen for the good. All you have to do is practice a sort of "positive thinking". Since you are already intuitively "connected", it won't take much to make it work for the better. I use it for silly things too, like getting a good parking space, which is fun sometimes. I used to be plagued by deja vu and dreams that came true too. If you practice "positive thinking", you can change the "bad things" into better things or events. You just have to trust it. Its scary, I know. I'm a chemistry, super science-y, logic obsessed person. It has not be easy. The cool thing is that physics right now is proving the existence of all this. Hell... we have even found cells in the body that correspond to the Chinese meridian lines!

When it comes to managing emotions that are coming off of other people... the only thing that I have found that helps is simply being careful of who I hang around with and removing myself from the situation if necessary. Try visualizing your personal "bubble" as an energy field. You can play around with it and making it bigger or smaller and even impregnable if you want! With practice, you can look into other peoples "energy bubbles" and "see" things about the person that you wouldn't ordinarily know. I spent 3 months with a teacher who taught me how to do this and other things. It was an amazing experience! But remember, you need to protect yourself because you are so sensitive. Things will be attracted to you because they know you can sense them and react to them when few others will (everything from spirits to bad energy from other people). Whenever you start feeling drained or not 100% in control of your own energy, thoughts, or emotions, you need to assess if anything is energetically affecting you. I wish you luck and hope it gets better! This is a gift and a wonderful talent that few have!


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12 Sep 2010, 7:06 am

franisco wrote:
Dilbert wrote:
Well I tried.

So much ignorance makes me very sad.


How can an afterlife not exist?

If the universe is completely random and time is infinite and we are here now, then eventually we will be here again, right? On an infinite timeline anything that can happen will happen

you talk about ignorance while ignoring the thousands of years of recorded history where people have been studying these paranormal (for lack of a better term) activities. Scientists think themselves smart but cant even figure out the pyramids

Of course, I respect scientists and Dilberts comments. But I have to agree with this. And I would like to see closed minded scientists explain coincidence.



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12 Sep 2010, 11:28 am

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What is "Science" nowadays, people once thought was magic. Who's to say this kind of magic won't become science in the future? ;D
I still think this is a valid point in this semi-derailed-thread topic now. Thousands of years ago, if you used "Science" to predict the weather, or worked with modern elements, they would call you a magician. Science has always been around as far as I'm aware, but it's always evolved and expanded, so that what was "magic" back then is now "Science".

Besides, I find it hard to believe that if science is always evolving, that one can say everything right now is explainable with science. It's not like we've reached the limit with science; nothing left to learn or hypothesize. There are still things to figure out. Therefore, it is very likely that there are things now that cannot be explained with where we're at with science at the moment, but will be in the future. Why can't this "paranormal" stuff fit into that category?

I guess I'm going into semantics if I go any further. How can someone be so sure that the "paranormal" is all "fake", rather than "a phenomena that has yet to be proven by science at this moment".

I can't really believe in something down-to-earth (Science) being able to explain every little thing that is on earth at this moment. I would feel unstable in those beliefs, that all there is to know, can be explained with a single equation. There isn't *more*? Then what the hell do we have to live for?



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01 May 2011, 1:30 am

I have Asperger’s syndrome, I love science.

First of all, the supernatural or paranormal has never been scientifically proven ... since it is non-quantifiable, then there is no quantifiable manner in which to evaluate if autistics have "paranormal" abilities. Second of all, this seems a little like the idea that autistics have "special powers" ... for some reason, being developmentally challenged seems less burdensome when there is a corresponding gift or ability. I don't see how this is in my people's collective best interest to run around and say they have magic powers coupled with the fact that they will disclose that they have ASD, everything that is said by people with ASD is measured against the fact that we are Neurodivergent, so it seems like this thread is a waste of time or tactically not in our best interest. Nevertheless, I do think that people with ASD do perceive the world in a literal manner, so any sense of the paranormal which might be neurobiological in nature, might appear to our sense's more strongly and without a sense of detachment and skepticism that neurotypicals experience normally. I don't personally believe in the paranormal or supernatural, if anything like ghosts or goblins does exist, they have never been documented and there is no quantifiable basis in which to describe their existence.

So, autistics could have magic powers ... but I don't go around calling neurotypicals muggles and I would strongly suggest that my people avoid name calling at most costs.



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01 May 2011, 1:50 am

Absolutely. I have a paranormal ability. It's this really neat thing I call common sense, which uses science, reason, and logic to explain that things such as ghosts and feelings associated with them. While not everything can be explained with science *yet*, common sense suggests that science is the correct way to explain phenomena.

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01 May 2011, 1:56 am

I can communicate with aliens through playing a glockenspiel.


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01 May 2011, 3:08 am

Boo ... No, an aspie as an NT, so paranormal skills.


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01 May 2011, 4:54 am

We're just as good as the rest of them at self delusion, though