Would you rather be right or happy?
What I do believe most of us have in common is the biological mechanism of chemical reactions in the brain that we perceive as pleasurable, that have evolved in us to reward us when we do the things that are successful for survival. A problem is that the reward system has been designed for thousands of years to accommodate delayed gratification.
We perceive happiness in life when we are looking forward to something. After we do the something we are looking forward to we are less happy. (...)
It is likely he would starve to death because he wouldn't be motivated to take action to receive the pleasure again in a timely manner. I think the more we are in a state of looking forward to doing something the more we are likely to experience a balance of happiness.
I think the reason many people are discontented today is because of instant gratification. The evolution of technology has allowed us the ability to receive instant gratification. Since we and most other animals have evolved for delayed gratification, instant gratification changes the dynamics of our experience of pleasure. When reward is constant our perception of pleasure is reduced. (...)
Isn't life trickly? Seems like the more reward you have the happier you would be, but this is not in alignment with our nature. It is the looking forward part that colors our experience of pleasure, not the reward itself.
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Agreed and very well formulated.
But there is something missing here. There are more ways to experience happiness.
What about art?
I could make a hypothesis and say that we need art to survive because it activates our brain, so that we keep our minds working individually, which would be significant for creating new ideas.
The problem is that the situation of looking forward to something is irrelevant regarding art.
I mean all kinds of art, creating and receiving, and;
the moments where I slow down time and just enjoy the world with all my senses. I need no spesific task done before, and have no spesific plans to perform in the future. It is simply indifferent. I get there by activating my consciousness, and it can turn any situation (in nature or in the middle of the city, while being among people or alone) to my personal enjoyable experience.
I would call those moments "art" because its a reflection of reality.
I think it is close to meditation, as Im aware of my thoughts and feelings, and any (disturbing) thoughts turn into a realization of my existence. I would even say it is the best "happiness" I experience.
I think any activity or experience that we enjoy is a reward in life. I think that art is one of the best rewards in life, and indeed an integral part of being "human". I don't think whether or not we look forward to art is irrelevent. If I look forward to going to an art museum because the experience is rewarding (in the way it stimulates the pleasure centers in my brain) the anticipatory state of looking forward to going there can also create a level of pleasure before I get there.
For anyone that wonders what truly happy is; your description of your personal enjoyable experience is the best definition of truly happy that I can imagine. It is probably the best indicator that a person has a healthy, balanced state of mind. It is tranquility, bliss, truly being alive, the moments of life that are eternity, heaven on earth. This is how I remember life at age three. For many years I experienced this; I can't find my way back to this place.
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As an Exmormon who visits exmormon.org often, this question of insisting on expousing the truth vs a person being happy replays itself. It's a good question. Here's an answer someone wrote that I liked.
Buzz Lightyear the Wacky Space marine who fights Zergs, is content in believing he's a Space Jarhead, now say for instance, or Spanish Flamengo Jarhead.... (I like that one more better, more manners), anyways, if Buzz was armed with a REAL gun, (I don't know he discovered a stapler and somehow melted them into bullets and was shooting at his friend Woody, or discovered a lighter and is using it as a flamethrower as a Firebat, or somehow he decides to arrest the other toys out of a fit of parnoia thinking they're Enemies or something, or attacks them... then the truth must be told.
But if he's just marching around harmlessly, or actually uses his sense of responsibility and duty to help his friends, and cares about them etc, like a Super hero (and this trait came in very handy when he was set on Spanish mode).... Then it's good, it's helpful. And don't tell him he's just a toy.
In the case of Shutter Island, because Decaprio's character was harming people and himself, delusioning he was Federal agent, the doctors of the Shutter Island facility couldn't accept his delusion.. Delusions are healthy we all need dreams, but if it clouds our sense of reality and overrides our decision making skills (like Blache Dubor's fantasy of confusing a one night stand with a Millionare, and prefering "magic" over a harsh reality (being fired, homeless), she eventually was carted way.
So tell the truth only if serious hazard to sanity or saftey. If it's harmless trivial leave it alone.
If you go to a church, and want to believe that an all powerful God loves you, this is good. But, if say that church's faith demands you do weird stuff like live in a compound under armed guards (Scientologly, Davidians). It might be a good time to learn the truth then.
This right vs happy thing is really the wrong question.
"Right" means too many things. 1+1=3 is wrong. That's easy. But is it right to ignore the homeless person you just stepped over to get into the office building where you work?
Right isn't very easy to define even in the realms of science and engineering. In engineering, a right answer can be calculated for a particular problem, but there are where the right answer for one part of a complex system degrades the performance of another part of the system. Determining the correct balance between the two parts can be a subjective evaluation that has no right answer.
Life issues are even further removed from any right answers. Even something as concrete as a bus schedule is uncertain. The schedule says the bus arrives at First and Main at 7:30 PM. But the bus actually arrives at 7:29 one day and 7:31 the next. Take right and wrong into the realm of human relationships and the entire enterprise collapses. Right and wrong are demoted to fuzzy concepts, the meaning of which is highly dependent on circumstance and context.
What does this mean for Aspies? I personally think that Aspies are more sensitive to the states of mind resulting from contradictory information. There is an almost palpable sense of unease when an unresolved idea is floating about in the mind. Without offering any real evidence, I suspect that NTs are better at compartmentalizing competing ideas and conflicting data. So Aspies have a need to be "right" in the sense that there is a stronger compulsion to resolve weakly compartmentalized thoughts. But this is not so much about being right or wrong as being internally consistent.
Aspies cannot be happy when "wrong" because they cannot easily endure the the cognitive dissonance of competing and contradictory ideas and thoughts.
Of course, this entire post could be wrong, right?
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Aspies cannot be happy when "wrong" because they cannot easily endure the the cognitive dissonance of competing and contradictory ideas and thoughts.
I agree, this is partly why I asked the question. I believe that allowing 'not rightness' and also 'don't knowness' is something that is inherently more difficult for many of us. That's not to say necessarily that we can't learn to let things be not right or unknown. Sometimes it's the better thing to do.
I am pleased with all the thought and discussion this thread has provoked. Obviously, 'right' and 'happy' are both complicated and multi faceted concepts, and they've been used in a bunch of different ways in this thread. I think that's pretty cool. It's been a good thread.
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if i am not sure i am right, then i cannot relax.
if i can not relax then i can not be happy.
happiness for me is what i feel when i know there are no loose ends in the external world that i am obliged to tie together.
You have stated exactly what I have always felt.
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I would rather be right - that is, I would rather know and live out the truth. Truth is an absolute and external, something that can be shared in common; and happiness is at best conditional and interior. In any case, I don't look for happiness; I'm not sure that I've ever experienced it (vs. simple contentment), but to have it because of a delusion or lie is not something I would ever want.
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