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14 Feb 2011, 1:05 pm

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Whenever I get into fights I do not care how much pain I inflict on the guy I am fighting. I would kill the person if I could get away with it. If there was no chance of going to jail I would kill or seriously cripple my attacker. I also cause trouble for people who torment me. I have gotten people fired who had children to support without even a little bit of remorse to them being without work. I have been pushed around, insulted, beaten, and humilated too many times to care about anyone except myself. No one has ever stepped up to stop someone from tormenting me so why should I care about anyone else? I would consider myself nuetral evil in Dungeon & Dragons terms I guess. :wink:


Chaotic Evil, seems to me.

Why aren't you in prison? If your rage is as you describe it, then there is a trail of corpses in your wake. You must be good at disposing of the evidence.


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14 Feb 2011, 2:02 pm

I have noticed with myself that it is not that I am evil, it is that I have low to no impulse control. My fight or flight persona;ity is only on flight so lying for me is second nature because I have had to do it to stay out of trouble mu entire life. I have never done anything to intentially hurt or bring pain emotionally to another person but I am generally on my side first as people are generally not good. I don't know if low impulse control actually makes me evil as I don't do things like break the law. I would say I am Chaotic Lawful all though when I took the Alliegnment test it said I was Chaotic Evil. I really don't think I am evil but I guess it makes me wonder sometimes.



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14 Feb 2011, 2:42 pm

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I have noticed with myself that it is not that I am evil, it is that I have low to no impulse control. My fight or flight persona;ity is only on flight so lying for me is second nature because I have had to do it to stay out of trouble mu entire life. I have never done anything to intentially hurt or bring pain emotionally to another person but I am generally on my side first as people are generally not good. I don't know if low impulse control actually makes me evil as I don't do things like break the law. I would say I am Chaotic Lawful all though when I took the Alliegnment test it said I was Chaotic Evil. I really don't think I am evil but I guess it makes me wonder sometimes.


Not sure chaotic lawful is an alignment but I'm no expert :lol: I think it is one of chaotic, lawful or neutral and one of good, evil or neutral.

Meh.


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14 Feb 2011, 2:44 pm

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Chaotic Evil, seems to me.

Why aren't you in prison? If your rage is as you describe it, then there is a trail of corpses in your wake. You must be good at disposing of the evidence.


I have only gotten into fist fights and pushing matches in my 20's and early 30's. I said the only would kill if I could get away with it. I have too much of a fear of prison to seriously hurt or kill someone. I still have to say neutral evil or perhaps lawful evil since I have respect for the law. Most of the evil things I do I do behind people's backs so I do not get fired from the job like spitting in their drinks or food it allows me to blow off enough steam to keep from hurting them with the ability to get revenge. :wink: If you witness some of the things that have been done to over the years at that resteraunt you would have cheered me on, I am certain of that. :twisted:


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14 Feb 2011, 2:48 pm

Well if you watch movies really closely, you'll see that the evil geniuses are all Aspie :P



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14 Feb 2011, 2:50 pm

Maybe I am chaotic Netrual then. I find it hard to believe that I am actually evil even though I would not discount the idea all together.



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14 Feb 2011, 3:04 pm

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Maybe I am chaotic Netrual then. I find it hard to believe that I am actually evil even though I would not discount the idea all together.


Remember evil is live spelled backwards. Is it wrong to seek revenge against those who did you wrong without you proviking the attack? The Nazis and the Japanese were bullies to Europe and Asia and the free world stepped up to finish their regimes n ot with stern words but with violence. If someone is doing their best to make your life a misery I feel you are intitled to do what you need to do to return the favor using the same amount of force as long as no one is get seriously hurt.


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14 Feb 2011, 3:10 pm

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Bad information isn't made better because it's on you tube.
Well, quite.
I just saw someone who made a video attempting to explain how he felt about certain aspects of "weird" Aspie behaviour which he wasn't comfortable with.
Like it said in the comments: "This video is about how some aspies act like they... shouldn't act. How some aspies are just plain... weird, even by my standards."

But weird isn't evil.


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14 Feb 2011, 3:12 pm

I am in the same boat. As I said, I am always in flight mode. I will do almost anything to cut a confirnation short. My girlfriend hates it but with anyone else saying the meanest thing you can think of to make them leave you alone works well.



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14 Feb 2011, 3:13 pm

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Nerdykid wrote:
Maybe I am chaotic Netrual then. I find it hard to believe that I am actually evil even though I would not discount the idea all together.


Remember evil is live spelled backwards. Is it wrong to seek revenge against those who did you wrong without you proviking the attack? The Nazis and the Japanese were bullies to Europe and Asia and the free world stepped up to finish their regimes n ot with stern words but with violence. If someone is doing their best to make your life a misery I feel you are intitled to do what you need to do to return the favor using the same amount of force as long as no one is get seriously hurt.


Violence is the last line of defense in my ethos. If violence becomes necessary, hold nothing back. But it is never to be undertaken without exhausting any reasonable alternatives.


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14 Feb 2011, 3:18 pm

Yeah I don't hurt people. Much more likely to hurt myself. I am a runner.



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14 Feb 2011, 3:34 pm

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Violence is the last line of defense in my ethos. If violence becomes necessary, hold nothing back. But it is never to be undertaken without exhausting any reasonable alternatives.


I live in a not so nice area of Depew. A lot of minor crimes like drug dealing, burgleries, and assaults. I walk everywhere since I do not drive so I am exposed to a lot more as*holes then a normal person especially since I have to walk past three bars to get where I am going. I have learned if I walk away I get hit, I talk back I get hit, If I come at them they either retreat or just start a shoving match and most drunks are not as big as me so its no biggy I push them around like a child until they wonder off. I know from my experience growing up in my area that if I do not put up a fight I will get beaten up I learned my lessons the hard way. 1982-1986 were a living hell for me when I was in school since I would not put up a fight I just tired to out talk them but that just made them beat me even harder. Now that I am 40 I carry mace with a blue dye marker in it so the police can find them easier. I just had a run in with a drunk who wanted me to give him a ride home I told him I walked there he thought I was lying so he came closer for what I do not know but he went back inside when I pulled the mace out of my jacket.


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14 Feb 2011, 4:06 pm

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wavefreak58 wrote:
Violence is the last line of defense in my ethos. If violence becomes necessary, hold nothing back. But it is never to be undertaken without exhausting any reasonable alternatives.


I live in a not so nice area of Depew. A lot of minor crimes like drug dealing, burgleries, and assaults. I walk everywhere since I do not drive so I am exposed to a lot more as*holes then a normal person especially since I have to walk past three bars to get where I am going. I have learned if I walk away I get hit, I talk back I get hit, If I come at them they either retreat or just start a shoving match and most drunks are not as big as me so its no biggy I push them around like a child until they wonder off. I know from my experience growing up in my area that if I do not put up a fight I will get beaten up I learned my lessons the hard way. 1982-1986 were a living hell for me when I was in school since I would not put up a fight I just tired to out talk them but that just made them beat me even harder. Now that I am 40 I carry mace with a blue dye marker in it so the police can find them easier. I just had a run in with a drunk who wanted me to give him a ride home I told him I walked there he thought I was lying so he came closer for what I do not know but he went back inside when I pulled the mace out of my jacket.


I'm familiar with Depew. I don't seem to attract hostility anymore, even in environments that might be higher risk. Not sure what the difference is because I was a bully magnet in school.

Part of it is maintaining the element of surprise. If I appear to be non-threatening, I attract less hostility. If it becomes necessary, an intense physical reaction from what was perceived as a low threat usually freaks people out. Going from outwardly passive to psycho aggressive in a fraction of a second is a transition most people can't handle.


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14 Feb 2011, 5:39 pm

Re. Hitler. One would assume that to be a great orator one would have to be able to read social cues. Remember this nut began in beer halls and worked up to mass rallies.

I wouldn't rule out any of several mental disorders, such as paranoid schizophrenia, but Asperger Syndrome would not be on the list. Evil, yes. Aspie, doubtful.

On the other hand, I think I'm evil, because whenever I open my big mouth someone gets hurt!


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