Can Aspies be psychic?

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I think some of us here are just getting a little fed up with people keep on associating everything possible with Autism.

1. How am I like Nancy Grace? I'm not crying over any missing white girls, I just don't buy what you're selling.
2. If you really are psychic/clairvoyant, then you should take the Million Dollar Challenge You can win a cool million just by showing off your powers. Or do your powers conveniently disappear under observation?

that's the key to this whole conversation. where autism intersects this issue is that people on the spectrum are often very good at (and compelled to) observe and scrutinize small details and make connections and find patterns (like obsessively ruminating on odd traits and whether they are entwined with being autistic or not)

so where coincidences occur, they are more likely to be noted and analyzed.

i'm not necessarily dismissing all "psychic" activity or ability as misunderstood coincidence. i have no idea whether psychic ability exists, even though i have had dreams that came true. very specific and completely inconsequential dreams - not dreams that could be interpreted metaphorically or which, after having them, could subconsciously alter my plans ... (i will make up an example similar to my experiences: person in dream creates origami crane while riding on back of bus. next day i observe a person in real life - with no prompting or mention of cranes or origami etc. - creating origami duck while riding in back of bus)

no one knows the answer to whether anyone can be psychic, just like no one knows there is or isn't a god. i'm an atheist and i know as surely as i can know anything that there is not a god. but i also know that someone who is mentally ret*d (sorry - what's the PC term for that these days?) and cannot add single digit numbers easily can definitely not multiply six digit numbers quickly in his head, yet i've read of mathematical savants (to refer to another non-irrelevant point brought up in this thread) who fit both of these criteria. i also know it is impossible to look at a mass of spilled toothpicks on the ground and know how many are there without counting them, but (in addition to being a fictional scene in Rain Man) there are people who can do this (someone who posts regularly on WP can, in fact) - it's a savant trait called "flash counting." ok .. take animals who having homing instincts, like carrier pigeons or salmon who migrate to their place of birth, in some cases thousands of miles away, or the occasional lost dog who gets left behind in Yosemite and then shows up seven years later with a broken leg to its home in Texas or something - how do they find it? what are these animals doing if not tapping into an ability most do not have? some extraordinary things can be explained by genetic memory, or simply instinct (a term so commonly used when discussing animal behavior that we don't tend to stop and think how extraordinary it is), but does a homing pigeon have an inner GPS? do they smell everything along the way, and does enough of that scent remain that they can find their way home? NO ONE KNOWS. if the pigeons and salmon and lost dogs posted on the board, someone would tell them they did not have instincts, because the instincts could not be proven.

what i will propose is this: there is so much we do not know about the human brain that an ability to reach conclusions unreachable to any of us (who are participating in this discussion, at least) or to access information that none of us can access (whether the day of the week January 13, 1756 fell on or reading a facial expression correctly) could be possible, and the fact we cannot do those things means nothing.

(i represent neither side of this discussion. i represent the "brain is god" side - capable of nearly anything, under the right circumstances)

p.s. i believe the flash counter was LabPet, if anyone cares to ask her how she does it.

Intellectually disabled.

Or if you want to be a real PC police prick you can say "Intellectually defensive".

It is.

And psychic ability in and of itself isn't really paranormal, either. So many dismiss it, probably because of the kind of whackjob New Age types that are associated with it, but it's a real thing.

Schizophrenics also have psychic ability to a certain extent. It has to do with having very low levels of latent inhibition. This is also the reason they hallucinate.

I've had a lot of *very* sudden psychic moments, I've said what the actors on TV say before them, during live programming or on TV shows that haven't aired yet, a few times.

But I have no way of controlling it. I've never been able to read anyone's mind and I don't *see* energy or anything.

Do you have any scientific evidence that being psychic is real?

You know I think James Randi offered like 100k dollars to anyone who could prove that things like this were real, and a bunch of people came onto his show trying to prove it and not one succeeded.

On one hand, we have anecdotes, circumstancial evidence and mysticism, on the other, we have reason, logic and science. So which do you expect me to choose.

If your above is what counts as psychic then I guess everyone is psychic because there's nothing weird about predicting sentences.

Last edited by Phonic on 20 Aug 2011, 11:00 am, edited 1 time in total.

Because of the way you are going about it in such a bitchy way. I've already said it doesn't work that way with me. It comes and goes and people like you would just make up excuses as to why it happened anyway that suits your own "logic".

I highly doubt you have a million dollars and if I were good at seeing lottery numbers I would be a millionaire by now but people like you like to pretend you understand these abilities by heckling others. You're the one who keeps suggesting the word "power". Even if I were good with lottery numbers or that became something that was mixed in with the other abilities. I wouldn't tell you.

The way you treat someone comes back to you.

The word "psychic" doesn't mean what you people think it does.

It's just intuition.

Some people have lower levels than others.

And don't quote one part of my post just to fck with me if you're going to act like you didn't read the rest of it.

I see where this thread went before my reply.

DEJA VU is "real". Is it PARANORMAL?

No.

I was replying to your whole post, i quoted one part to show the one my final line was directly refering to.

I don't quote whole posts because I'm ignoring them ,i quote the parts that I care about, now, onto the most important part;



I've written like 7 different replies to this, some rude, some sweet, some funny, some insulting, I'm just at a loss for words..

the idiocy..i don't even..

And you have the bugger all suggestion that it's US who are using a weird incorrect definition of being psychic

with all due respect, f**k your opinion.

Actually, i genuinely regret saying that, which is weird for me.

Anyway, dear Eris please don't let me take take myself so serously, hail discordia.

i do not know whether "they " can.
i certainly am not psychic.

no one knows what i am thinking, and i do not know what anyone else is thinking either.

in my existence, it is "every man for his self"

i will wake up tomorrow, and i will continue to be who i am, and i will be in the world until i die.

You don't need to give me ANY RESPECT AT ALL, if you would like to tell me to f*ck off, son

I'm not going to read seven of your replies to understand all of the ways you defined the word, "psychic."

It is intuition. It is also empathy. It's low latent inhibition. It's a lot of things.

You came at me like you wanted a *challenge* .

I wasn't in the mood.

Fair enough?

Did you even read my link? I'm not the one with a million dollars; that's the James Randi Foundation. Take it up with them.

Apparently you don't even bother to read what I write. I have already explained several times that is not how it works with me. Do I have to repeat myself like a parrot? I can do that. I used to do that all the time and still do.

When people who don't have this ability attach their conditions on how to prove it, they aren't really understanding that in my case it doesn't work that way. You can't probe me like some little guinea pig and I come out with the answers. On one hand it is a gift. On the other hand it is a curse. I sometimes wonder how other people who have never had such experiences liked it if oneday they did. Oneday, you start seeing pictures flash by of events that haven't happened and sometimes tragic ones and they end up happening within days to weeks later. Sometimes they happen just moments later. The other person you are with, you warn that person. The person is freaked out by you when it happens.
I saw an image flash in my mind of the person I was riding in the car with not looking to the right and we got hit by a big truck. In my mind I saw the license plate number. I told that person, you better look to the right or we are going to get hit by a truck with this in their license plate as a number. I looked over and caught the person not about to look right but suddenly he did and we almost got hit by a big truck just minutes later with the digits of the license plate number.

So, how would you cope if this was going on in your life so much that it became quite normal to you but then you have to dodge the people bullets that even when you do something good with it, you're now evil. Even though you just decided instead of rationalizing this vision away that would act on it and it turned out to be right. That person's life was in danger. You do something about it, you stopped the person from dying ohhh but now you're evil and a witch.

You sense things in a different way. This instantly sets you up if you dare mention it to people like you as "psychotic" which you wrote pages ago.

Because I have to repeat myself with you. My gift and curse isn't with me to win the freaking lottery. There have been so many things that have happened with these visions and no they aren't hallucinations because i see them flash by in my mind that it's no longer a coincidence. However, the longer I survive with this and not succumbing into being a drug user or alcoholic, the stronger it becomes but it's just not in the way you have placed or the conditions you come up with along with all these other people who have been led into believing that if you are psychic, you can be probed like a little lab rat and you have the answers right then and there like those psychic hotlines.

For me, I've held someone's old clothing before. That person wanted me to when I was a child. I closed my eyes and told her about the disturbing abuse I was seeing her go through. She screamed for me to stop talking about it. She was testing me over something I did earlier but she seemed to have known that she can't just sit there and say "HHURR HURRR, numbers plz hurrrr!"

My vision was accurate. Then she provided information on what I was seeing and it led to something very tragic which I won't go into.

These are just only a FEW instances. How would you like it if you questioned and questioned and sided with your rational side because people don't want to be bashed by jerks and told they are crazy only to find out moments later your rational side was wrong and something really bad happened that your other sense was warning you about. If you have a conscience, you will feel pain and guilt.

I feel great that not everyone has this happening because it hurts often. It's not a POWER. People that call it a power sometimes even wish they had such insight because in their minds they think it will give them POWER when really it's a guide. Not one that is attached to greed.

By the way, we can keep going on and on until you have the last word.

So your abilities can't be tested? How very convenient.

People have already explained to you why you have those visions. Why do you want to keep on deluding yourself?