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kfisherx
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23 Mar 2011, 12:26 am

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An hour for a diagnosis? Thats too long, I am waiting for the drive thru clinic.
I think kfisherx may be able to help you out there! :lol:
Wish it was as easy as Portland over here. :roll:


The medical care I get in Washington (I'm about...120 or so miles north of kfisherx, I think) is consistently surprisingly respectful to me. I always expect the worst and people are kind and helpful.

Similar in Portland, when I lived there. And I mean none of this was "private" health care but being on public health care. I've had commercial insurance for maybe four months out of my entire adult life.


Actually, the Seattle (and surrounding) area has some of the BEST resources for Autism that I have seen anywhere. Check out this link (I am jealous)

http://seattleaspergers.org/aspieadults.aspx

Anyone interested in the clinic that nailed the DX on me

http://www.newleavesclinic.com/

It is private and that is all I have experience with at this time. (I don't qualify for non-private services) I did not have to actually go through the testing that they talk about on their website for my DX as I did 12 hours of grief therapy with my Dr and also spent 2+ hours with his wife outside of that. They are both 100% sure. My Dr actually asked me if I had ever been tested for Aspergers in 5 or 10 min of meeting me. LOL! All I wanted was grief therapy!! ! :D :D :D I think what helped clue him in was his first question to me was, "So what is it you wish for?" And I was like, "WTF kind of question is that?" "I am here for grief therapy" "What do you mean?" "You will have to be WAY more specific" I nearly ate him for dinner for that question. The whole session was comedy when I look back on it.

Surreal if you are serious, I can also ask if my new Dr does DX in adults. He is pretty cool too and might be cheaper.



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23 Mar 2011, 12:32 am

Yeah, I've looked into the Seattle area, although it's a couple hours north of here. If I could move up there, definitely worth it.



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23 Mar 2011, 6:56 am

I almost forgot how hopelessly liberal wrong planet was for a minute. Sorry for not wanting to live in a socialist nanny state.

BTW money buys the best. I am sorry that some people can't understand that. Maybe if you move your special interest towards something that makes actual money then you won't whine so much about your health care.



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23 Mar 2011, 7:08 am

kfisherx wrote:
Surreal if you are serious, I can also ask if my new Dr does DX in adults. He is pretty cool too and might be cheaper.


LOL...having to take off work, travel there, and all, it would cost less to take my chances and pay the $400. But I would do it if I could!


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23 Mar 2011, 7:28 am

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I almost forgot how hopelessly liberal wrong planet was for a minute. Sorry for not wanting to live in a socialist nanny state.


This is an appeal to emotion with no substance. It's not even an argument. Again, there is nothing wrong with emotional arguments, but you need something more than vehement assertions to make it into an argument.

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BTW money buys the best. I am sorry that some people can't understand that. Maybe if you move your special interest towards something that makes actual money then you won't whine so much about your health care.


As I recall, no one said that money doesn't buy the best in the current climate. As I recall, this was critiqued as a flaw in the system and one of the reasons that the US has such terrible health care.

I guess I should point out that statistically, autistic people are among the demographics with extremely high unemployment rates in the US, with the percentage of those unemployed ranging from 75-97%, and many who do have jobs are underemployed - meaning working at jobs and making money far below their skill levels. It's not always that simple to turn a special interest into money, even for those who have special interests that can be profitable. And those who can turn their interest into money sometimes find that doing the work is overloading and have to slow down or find different work. Things just aren't always all that clear cut.

This is the same pointless "bootstraps" argument that so many others in severe denial about the state of the economy and the limitations imposed by disability make. What you aren't doing is arguing from a factual basis.



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23 Mar 2011, 7:45 am

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I almost forgot how hopelessly liberal wrong planet was for a minute. Sorry for not wanting to live in a socialist nanny state.


It does annoy me how the use of the word "liberal" has been hijacked and misused. A "liberal" is someone who is open to new ideas, someone who does not judge others and who believes in personal choice. I count myself a liberal despite my broadly right of centre political views (although this seems to mean different things between the UK and US). Again, although I would not describe myself as socialist, it is a mistake to consider all forms of socialism an evil. The world is not so black and white. Personally I see it as a sign of a civilised society that all have the right to the same level of medical care whatever their circumstances.

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BTW money buys the best. I am sorry that some people can't understand that. Maybe if you move your special interest towards something that makes actual money then you won't whine so much about your health care.


Well I'm not so sure that money always buys the best. You have to remember that in a wholly commercial health system it is profit that is the priority not the quality of the health care.



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23 Mar 2011, 9:41 am

kfisherx wrote:
Actually, the Seattle (and surrounding) area has some of the BEST resources for Autism that I have seen anywhere. Check out this link (I am jealous)

http://seattleaspergers.org/aspieadults.aspx
Damn, that's impressive! 8O


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23 Mar 2011, 9:42 am

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Again, although I would not describe myself as socialist, it is a mistake to consider all forms of socialism an evil. The world is not so black and white. Personally I see it as a sign of a civilised society that all have the right to the same level of medical care whatever their circumstances.
Yes, and thanks. You get it.
It's not all about waving red flags, queues for bread handouts at grey & empty supermarkets, tractor production stats and 3-year plans, Gideon.
It never was.

And I know I said I wouldn't - but this popped up about 30 minutes after I said it and I think it's worth a mention.
It's an interesting healthcare survey covering Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content ... urvey.aspx
Grab a copy of the pdf available on the "Full Chartpack" link.
Make of it what you will. :wink:


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23 Mar 2011, 9:54 am

kfisherx wrote:
... I think what helped clue him in was his first question to me was, "So what is it you wish for?" And I was like, "WTF kind of question is that?" "I am here for grief therapy" "What do you mean?" "You will have to be WAY more specific" I nearly ate him for dinner for that question. The whole session was comedy when I look back on it.

I can totally relate to that. Someone at the SSA recently asked me what I cannot do now that I used to be able to do, and I could only answer, "Answer questions!" And of course, I had the same problem at the psychiatrist's office when asked about why I was there and what "goals" I would like to see achieved. I was speechless.


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