How come God made people with AS?

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I don't believe in the God theory. Even if there is a God which created the universe, I doubt it could be bothered to micro-manage the life of every being in the entire universe (unless it has AS and the universe is it's special interest ).

I used to believe what people said about things happening for a reason... But, now I think that's all nonsense. Things happen as a result of action that caused it... Not God...

If you believe God is hurting you, what do you have to substanciate that he's even involved at all... Why is life supposed to make sense? "Sense" is the rule of the majority of the people out there... I don't try to prove or disprove God based on my personal feelings. It's each person to decide if they have "faith" or not of his/her existance.

Life does what it is supposed to do... There is no such thing as right and wrong... That is a falacy on itself. Right and Wrong is up to the individual person and what is right for one is never right for everyone. I might think I deserve to win the lottery. My life sucks right? It sucks alot, so I deserve to win, just once... I mean, if God was just, I would win correct? So what if tomorrow God let everyone get one wish? Money would be worthless... Everyone would have enough to wall paper their house... The word Utopia actually means: "A place that does not exist"....

Why do we think we can understand God if he exists? Why do we think we "know in our heart" what is "right" and "wrong"... Right and Wrong is just the candy colored BullS**t on tv and hallmark cards... It's where we pay all of our money and we slave our lives for and it's just sick and stupid.

I think people should keep their right and wrong to themselves... Discussing it is fun however.. Application is another thing...

"The right to throw my fist ends where the other man's nose begins" - Oliver Wendall Holmes - Supreme court justice

lol, that's what I don't like about the world today... What ever happened to not being a jerk to your neibor? Nowadays, neibors break down your door "for your own good" and try to "fix" you... "Don't throw rocks if you live in a house made of glass."

The atheists aren't right.

You aren't the only one Kye. I wasn't affected by seeing and hearing from the news that the people died. I usually don't get emotional of things on tv or something that is far away.

Just a question here how do you believe that elolution created us? Are you sure you're a Christian. Actually no one really knows what happened in the beginning of time. How all of came about. We didn't come from monkeys if that's what you mean. Who knows maybe God started the Big Bang and that all happened. Truth is no one knows and no one will ever know. All those theorys and things who knows they might be right,

Tigerfire, that would be somewhat easier to take as a positive contribution to the debate if you added the conditional "In my opinion"

You have just requested, elsewhere, that people should consider: "How would you feel if all that you believe and your beliefs are being attacked..?"

An appeal for a degree of respect is fair enough, but atheism is my convinced belief,
and a reciprocal respect would seem appropriate.

Do you hear yourself. God this God that, how about just living life and understanding that everyone has to go through adversity. You sound like a little child wondering why the world is so big and bad. Then saying, "Cuz daddy Gwod mad it so".

If you were talking to me I would say no I'm not a little child wondering why the world is big and bad. I never wondered that and actually I don't care about it. I would never do a two faced about these things.

Tigerfire, blind faith can be a good thing, but if you want to persuade people, you're going to have to try to understand them... If you aren't carefull, you are going to get "trolled" by someone trying to bait you... Even I was temped

no offense intended...

Very few people are going to be convinced if you just "tell them how it is"... most people in this world don't think how you do. It doesn't mean you can't speak your mind, just try to realize that you aren't going to convince people if you are brazen in your methods... You mean well and I'm sure you're a good kid... So I didn't want to hurt your feelings... Just trying to help.

That's what I was going to say. God didn't make any perfect people, either. I don't know anyone who isn't struggling with something.

Blind faith. No I'm not doing this on a whim or a blind faith I know where my faith lies. Brazen? Why these that word even though I never heard it. Yes being almost 20 I am a good kid. I'm sorry if you understood what my IQ level is and how I stick to my guns to hard to protect my self.

Well actually that was meant towards Ken M. However I felt, as that people who are highly religious, also are quick to complain that someone isn't respecting their religion, and reports them to forum moderators, that I shouldn't mention his name giving him a reason to complain I was "making it personal".

Here's the post by Ken.M I was responding to:



This is what gets me, how about living your life rather than wondering "Why did God make it so?". It's like a small child asking why there is evil in the world. It makes religion look like a safe way to regress back towards childhood thinking with others. People with AS don't suffer, that's something else religion would make up. Oh well they must suffer, just like Christ..oohh.

How about this, life can be good, life can be bad. s**t happens. That's all. You want to make some sort of mythical faerietale out of it to comfort yourself, then there's the religion forum. If you do that outside the religion forum, then expect people to point out that God is little more than a metaphorical security blankie.

Sorry if you feel offended by this. However, I feel offended that people who belive in religion should just be put on a pedestal and treated with kid gloves. You wouldn't go to a doctor that specializes in medicine that was practices 1,000 years ago, right? Why belive in a religion that was based on helping a culture with no knowledge of science or psychology 1,000 years ago? Maybe, because it's a convenient way to cop out from the current reality?

and you are? please.
your religion ripped of the jewish religion, wich inturn ripped off the sumerian ideas about the creation of man and the flood story.

Ahh whatever. I don't believe that one single bit of that.

So are you telling me christianity came up with the monotheism theology? (the one god) Or was that the jews who came up with that?

I've spent many years reading scientific journals as well as being a christian (and having AS, as it turned out). What I find most interesting is that science is finding it more and more of a struggle to explain the universe. At the smallest level (below atom sized) there appears to be something not dissimilar to computer code. In much the same way as computers allow us to create entire virtual universes out of binary coding, the scientists are coming to a conclusion that universe may well be made out of encoding that involves "loop gravity theory" or "string theory". One bit of "string" knotted into different shapes to form different sorts of matter, in essence.

I'm not saying we're a computer program, living on a virtual computerised world, but I am saying that scientists are struggling to understand all of this. It would make sense if someone built it though. What we then get stuck on is the bigger question of who, or what, is God.

Does God exist? We cannot prove it or disprove it by science. I expect that's deliberate. But two thirds of the world do "feel" God's presence in some way and follow a faith of some sort. There have been plenty of theories about why that is, but it's a heck of a lot of people to all be wrong, all be delusional, all be brainwashed. I certainly can't explain my relationship with God in any terms that could be called scientific, but it's nevertheless a relationship, an interaction on some level, and one that two thirds of the planet can identify with.

Why does God 'permit' evil and disaster? Well, "evil" I would count as people deliberately doing awful things to each other when they know better. That's their fault, not God's. Disaster, on the other hand, happens because this is "real life". It's meant to be a real planet with real things happening on it - some good, some bad. If everything were perfect, would we even know we were alive? No conflict, no pain, everything went right all day every day, everyone got on together - it wouldn't seem "good", because we'd have nothing bad to compare it to.

Remember, this is God we're talking about. He can do absolutely anything including changing the timeline and rewriting what happened. The universe is billions of years old, and we live for only about 70 or 80 years of that. It might be hell whilst we're here for a while, but God promises billions of years of happiness to make up for any pain suffered here. That's not a bad deal. Better still, He's helped me through a heck of a lot during those bad times - been a tower of strength when I've felt very alone, got me through some very depressing times indeed.

What would be the deal without God? Same planet, same evil, same disasters, but one short life, a death, nothing afterwards? Is that better than the alternative?

PS I also agree with those who have pointed out that AS can be a great blessing as well as a curse.