You may or may not have Aspergers.

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Most of these so called self diagnosed and Have Aspergers - Undiagnosed. You more than likely do not have Aspergers. Unless you are medically diagnosed Aspergers you are not really certain whether or not you have Aspergers.

Would you go around claiming to the world you have cancer if you were Undiagnosed or Self diagnosed having cancer? Cancer requires a diagnosis from medical professional to confirm you have it or not. Cancer is a serious life threatening illness/disease. Aspergers is non life threatening illness/disease.

Self diagnosis could be as simple as saying I have Aspergers because I chose to have this condition. Choosing to have Aspergers could be like deciding what clothes to wear, what music to listen to, what TV show to watch or what food to eat. Aspergers to me sounds like a lifestyle choice.

What you fail to realise is mental problems are not as set in stone as physical problems like cancer...so the diagnoses is based on symptoms and the persons behavior basically. So yes if one is so inclined to look up the symptoms of a mental illness they suspect they have and the symptoms fit chances are they probably have the disorder or a simular disorder...or maybe just traits of the disorder so yes sometimes to further confirm it getting the professional diagnoses is a good idea. Also there are many reasons why one may not be able to get professionally diagnosed after all not everyone can afford to do that as it costs money.

Just out of curiosity, outside of political trolling, is there any evidence at all of people abusing welfare? I haven't been able to find any research that backs this claim up - just anecdotes by people who are often obviously making fundamental attribution errors ("That person looks like they're abusing welfare, so they obviously must be!").

I would imagine there is, I have not investigated it a whole lot but I know it certainly happens....but regardless of that it is still quite insufficient. I mean it seems like its more of a hassle to get approved for any sort of welfare then it would be to just work a crappy job, struggle to pay rent and risk deteriorating mental health but hey that's life I guess.

Right, there's undoubtedly abuse in the system, but it's so hard to get approved for it that it strikes me as highly unlikely to be pervasive.

It's not as if welfare is living high on the hog. It requires poverty and barely provides enough money to survive.

Well of course living on welfare is not that impressive.....and I decided I don't want to appeal the my denied SSI request. I am just going to continue attending college and attempt to find work hopefully it works.

Welcome to the Asperger's Lifestyles of the rich and famous... you too can have fabulous riches and and all expenses paid lifetime vacation care of by the federal government...

I can really see the appeal in choosing to be disabled, poor and misunderstood by society and possibly even by your family. I'm not sure though... I think I would probably choose a condition that had a better drug intervention profile... Asperger's is kinda lame on the med front.

Interesting that you call Asperger's an illness/disease. Last I checked it was developmental difference in brain wiring. That's nowhere near as cool as being a full fledged disease.

I know in Australia it would be close to impossible to fraudulently claim disability benefits (social security) pretending to have autism. It would take a genius to imitate an LFA. Even to get an affirmative assessment report for AS from a psychologist would take considerable level of acting worthy of Dustin Hoffman.

Conclusion: It ain't going to happen, the Darklord needs to visit the real world and leave Hogwarts.

Your attempt to create subtle a subtle trolling thread has blatantly failed. This is an absurd post.

No actually it hasn't failed. It has already reached five pages so success.

Ah yes, there is that way of looking at it. It depends what the goal of trolling is. I have no concept of what a person gets out of trolling. But this poster seemed to have a goal of creating a subtle trolling thread. That last post was as far away from subtle as possible. I think anyway. Anyway, I must stop posting on this thread now. I may go and eat some chocolate instead.

It really does seem pointless to troll an Aspie forum. It doesn't really matter how offensive or blantant a troll might be, the conversation alway seems to degrade into a very logical discussion in spite of it. I'd imagine that is not the intention of trolling and that it sucks all the fun right out of it.

I tend to ignore the 'T' word. Just as I ignore the intentions of trolls. If a good conversation erupts in spite of it, I consider that a good thing.

There are probably easier disabilities to fake, but it's still the kind of thing that strikes me as difficult to maintain over time.

Some of the people who told me they've seen people faking to get on benefits were describing people having a good time and spending their time doing things they enjoy. I can only think "how dare they not spend their days feeling gloom and doom."

That reminds me of this:

At Babycenter, I have been amazed at the judgments people make and they act like if you're on foodstamps, welfare, or on WIC, you cannot have a nice pair of shoes or wear nice clothes or even have a Nintendo DS and no new gaming systems or you're abusing the system.

So I guess that means this:

Grandmother busy her grandson the new Nintendo 3DS. The grandson opens it. The mother sees it and snatches the gift out of his hands and tells her mother, "Sorry mom, he can't have it because we're on Foostamps."

Or how about if someone decided to buy her grand daughter a new coat and the mother blows it off by telling her mother "Sorry mom, you have to take it back to Fred Meyers because we're on welfare."

"Oops with all this money we got back from taxes, too bad we can't buy a nice new used car because we're on WIC."

I mean give me a break. Poor people aren't entitled to entertainment or nice things? If you have any of those things, people assume you are abusing the system and don't need it than realizing that maybe someone in their family bought it for them, maybe it was a gift.

That's how stupid people are with their judgments. Now I wonder what people think when I pull out my WIC vouchers but I don't care so I never even look to see the reactions or what looks people have on their faces. And if someone made a comment about me "abusing" the system or "taking advantage of it" I would tell them off. I would tell them I cloth diaper and breastfeed, I don't use daycare because we don't need it so we don't need that assistance, I don't get TANF or foodstamps so I think I am already paying back into the system pretty much so thank you for the judgment. I bet that would make that person back off.

Exactly.

Most of the people on my mum's side of the family seem to have some traits of AS, but they are not Aspies. I'm the Aspie, and it's obvious because they are all better at making friends than I am, and loads more examples like that.
My uncle is an NT, but he shows one Aspie trait, which is obsessiveness. He goes on and on and on about a girl he fancies, but who doesn't fancy him back. He's been following her and obsessing about her for almost 3 years, and all of the family are getting very tired and bored of hearing about it. His whole mind is full of this one person who isn't even interested in him. He is very, very obsessed it's unbelievable. Every conversation you have with him is either about her, or ends up being about her. That's about the only intense Aspie trait he has, otherwise he is NT in every other way.
Also my auntie finds it really hard to socialise. She says she doesn't always quite know what to do in social situations, and even when I'm with her in a crowd I can tell she's struggling. When she's in a social situation she speaks in a very monotonous, slow way, as though she's reading from a book (you know, people use a different, more monotone sort of voice, when they're reading a book out loud).
And my brother is a very typical NT now (he's 23 now), but my mum says that looking back. when he was about 2, he showed a lot of typical Autistic traits, although he grew out of them very quickly when he started school (I was the opposite - I was like a very typical NT child then when I started school I turned into an Aspie somehow). But as for my brother, when he was 2 he watched the same videos over and over, he got really obsessed with Thomas the Tank Engine (and I mean really obsessed), and he was a shy toddler and didn't seem to interact with other children properly at nursery. Now he's the most typical NT I know, with no visible Aspie traits.

So not all NTs are all exactly the same with everything in the ''proper place''. Some can be an NT with some Autistic traits but not enough to match the criteria. And there's not just Aspies and NTs. There are lots of other disabilities aswell as AS and Autism.

I have skin cancer. It isn't serious or life threatening. I got very lucky and have basal cell carcinoma (easily treatable, only dangerous if left untreated) instead of melanoma. Carcinoma- it's like only sort of having cancer. So even cancer is not so black and white. And you know what? I self diagnosed myself with cancer! And you know what else? I was right! I noticed a funny looking mole, self diagnosed it as cancerous, went to my doctor for confirmation (and teatement) and that was that.

So your analogy is working against your point. You meant to show how neither of these things is self diagnosable but they definately can be. You also meant to show that they are discrete conditions and there is no such thing as "partly Aspie/partly NT" just as there is no such things as "partly cancer" . But actually there is both. There is "sort of kind of" cancer which is how I consider my basal cell carcinoma and there is "part AS/part NT" which is Broader Autism Phenotype and I fit there too, what with my pedancticism (witness it now ) and aversion to change. But I don't have the social problems associated with AS.