Good looking aspies. Do people bypass your aspergers
I'm diagnosed NVLD and they also gave me schizoid/schizoaffective. Court psych eval, at that time 2.5 years ago. I concluded I had turned my emotions off to deal with all the stress, so that's the possible reason why the schizo thing. They said I didn't have Aspergers because I didn't display the intense interests thing, and they just in general thought it too severe, but anyone who knows me knows I'll ramble forever worse than James May from Top Gear, yes, about random things like electronic fuel injection.
As for my looks, I didn't know until recently that they were quite good. Long eyelashes (which I've heard is an ASD trait), dimples, perfectly straight teeth, and eyebrows that everyone asks if I wax. In like, early elementary school, girls were almost my only friends, almost no male friends, and males would make fun of me for that and how I'd talk about Star Trek and stuff. Eventually, I learned to fit in and ditched the female friends, and just became a huge as*hole in the process, to "fit in." This started at a "Christian" school, and continued on til high school.
Anyway, I very much loved (and still love) anime in late elementary school, so that while the anime in and of itself isn't bad, made it easier to align with the "nerd" crowd of people, so because most of them were ugly and didn't care much of athletics, I also didn't either, so that really hurt me, helped make me fat. As a kid, though, I actually loved athletics, but my quest wasn't so much how to "win" at them but more to learn the best technique and way to do things, so I'd for example, play by myself in my yard, kicking a football on a stand, just trying to beat myself.
Oh uh, looks, back to that. Anyway, I've lost weight now, but even when I was chubbier, girls still thought I was hot. Alot of confusion for me, though. For example, in health class, these 2 girls kept grabbing my butt, I told them to stop, got angry, etc, I didn't understand for the longest time that she thought I was hot, and that a man having a big butt is apparently the same thing to them as a woman having one to me. Another time a group of hot girls drove by me walking home from school, again joking with nice butt, etc.
I'm good looking, and very verbally skilled, in fact, how I'm speaking now in writing is basically how I talk to others, which now that I'm 20 looks sorta impressive, but back at 14-15, you basically get the "Ideocracy" "fag talk" treatment. Also, I've never been in a relationship, so people keep asking if I'm gay or not (not making fun so much as just questioning.) I think that happens alot due to my looks, as they figure I'm good looking, so wtf is up. So yeah, I'm good looking, talk very intelligently, so people usually get OK first impressions of me, but I just have a seeming I'm diagnosed NVLD and they also gave me schizoid/schizoaffective. Court psych eval, at that time 2.5 years ago. I concluded I had turned my emotions off to deal with all the stress, so that's the possible reason why the schizo thing. They said I didn't have Aspergers because I didn't display the intense interests thing, and they just in general thought it too severe, but anyone who knows me knows I'll ramble forever worse than James May from Top Gear, yes, about random things like electronic fuel injection.
As for my looks, I didn't know until recently that they were quite good. Long eyelashes (which I've heard is an ASD trait), dimples, perfectly straight teeth, and eyebrows that everyone asks if I wax. In like, early elementary school, girls were almost my only friends, almost no male friends, and males would make fun of me for that and how I'd talk about Star Trek and stuff. Eventually, I learned to fit in and ditched the female friends, and just became a huge as*hole in the process, to "fit in." This started at a "Christian" school, and continued on til high school.
Back in my elementary school days, I actually loved sports. I was clumsy at many of them, but loved them. But the weirdness was a factor there, too. Playing football, I didn't get past practices before I quit, I wanted to play the game, but the kids I was playing with basically bullied the hell out of me. After that, I shyed away from sports, the last sport I remember doing is ice hockey, in a learn to play camp, which I loved, but my parents didnt have money to pursue it. So, I stopped playing sports, and then hung out with the " nerd" crowd of people through highschool, so because of that (and partially because a divorce, and my mom only buying processed food) I gained weight. I guess as a kid, I was a "jock," but whatever it was about me that made me different got me ostracized, thus made me uglier.
Anyway, I've lost weight now, but even when I was chubbier, girls still thought I was good looking. Alot of confusion for me, though. For example, in health class, these 2 girls kept grabbing my butt, I told them to stop, got angry, etc, I didn't understand for the longest time that she thought I was hot, and that a man having a nice butt is apparently the same thing to them as a woman having one to me. Another time a group of hot girls drove by me walking home from school, again joking with nice butt, etc.
I'm good looking, and very verbally skilled, in fact, how I'm speaking now in writing is basically how I talk to others, which now that I'm 20 looks sorta impressive, but back at 14-15, you basically get the Ideocracy "fag talk" treatment. Also, I've never been in a relationship, so people keep asking if I'm gay or not (not making fun so much as just questioning.) I think that happens alot due to my looks, as they figure I'm good looking, so wtf is up. So yeah, I'm good looking, talk very intelligently, so people usually get OK first impressions of me, but I just have a seeming inability to "connect" with people.
One minor thing too, I think that goes along with being good looking, and to an extent, being semi-alpha as I am, I think some girls get almost too intimidated to talk to you, I found after losing like 30 pounds figure skating, dropping from 215 to 187, girls seem to almost talk to me less. I wasn't talking to them very actively, so I think they just assume I'm out of their league. I kinda think it's similar to what some of the girls describe in their thread. Girls might be just as shy as me, who'd have thought.
Clothing, too, goes along with looks, and in highschool, I just wore the worst clothing choices, probably looking almost homeless. Nowadays, I have a collection of "preppy" clothes I bought from Salvation Army, found in trash (lol), etc. So I wear them, everyday, Hilfiger, Abercrombie, Polo, thus contributing more to me looking very normal, if not "cool" but when people talk to me, I tend to...do what I'm doing now, and then yeah.
But really, it is good to be good looking and considered cool, it does cut you alot of slack, people might still think you're weird, but they won't say it to your face, and they'll often overlook it. It, like ASD is a blessing, and a curse at the same time. If you're ugly, you won't be as "cool" but at the same time, you won't have to deal with people's high expectations for you, but then again, high expectations means people think highly of you.
Also, I didn't really realize I was good looking until very recently, but I now realize a lot of my problems stemmed from others jealousy, even back with girls for friends in elementary school, jealousy. If only I remained as I was, damn... If only I realized at the time their opinions were insignificant. I had good looks, but the social and nonverbal understanding of a rock. For me to catch on that a girl liked me back in middle/high school, I'd probably have to have her literally explain that she does to me. But being good looking, intelligent, hell even a bit charismatic, but with a nonverbal IQ of like 80, and just being weird and quirky, it's an odd experience.
Anyway, sorry for my long post. Anyway, despite the possible downsides to being good looking, I'm so thankful to God I am. Learning I was attractive helped my self image alot. Alot of those years, my attractiveness was hiding under bad hygiene and bad clothing, and it all stemmed from bad self image.
So yeah, sorry, long post. To sum up this post, I became "ugly" over time just from choices I made, from what haters/jealous people told me. Now it's getting fixed, I believe with God's hand, and it's amazing to me, I wonder though, what it would have looked like if I didn't let those people influence me.
I wouldn't know. They have never told me except my ex-girlfriend. and I don't think I'm good looking. It does have its negative sides. I have always been told that and I feel like it is the reason why people don't want to hang out with me because people who are good looking have the stereotype of being an idiot and also people thing that I judge them all of the time. When really it seems I have noticed a lot of good looking people are actually really smart. They just hide it better.
Yes, Heather Kuzmich is proof of that those with AS can become models.
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She was my epiphany for finally putting 2 + 2 together, a wonderful role model
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This sounds like quite a different world. I don't really have strange girls talking about me (or to me), let alone the butt-grabbing and other things. It might just be a cultural thing.
Still, though, I don't consider myself particularly attractive. I could probably be conventionally attractive if I set my mind to it, but I really don't feel comfortable doing so. I look weird and that's what people expect from me. Can't say I disappoint them.
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I am a tall, handsome and athletic guy with Aspergers. I find that women are initially attracted to me, but that it goes very quickly when I start chatting with them. If I tell women I have Asperger's that doesn't put them off BUT once I start chatting to them my Autistic traits make me come across in a way that DOES put them off, because basically once the initial attraction is there, the communication and connection is essential to keep it going even on a first date. Therefore the answer to your question is that whilst being good looking can open a few doors for you, they quickly slam shut once you start chatting to them and they sense you can't communicate in the normal way.
Of course you can work on communication in such a way that the non-verbal comminucation becomes better or less of an issue but it takes time, patience and quite a lot of faith.
Don't know if I look good or not, but I seem to sound good when I sing and play music, and that seems to have opened a lot of social doors for me. I've hardly ever asked to play music with other people or to hang out with them, but I still get invited to do that.
I think there's scientific evidence that "good looking" makes a difference to the way people are treated, but there are lots of people out there who don't operate such a prejudice.
What I think happens is that people make the assumption that good looking = nothing wrong. So, for example, it's very rare when someone will believe me when I say I'm tired, sick, or upset because I apparently don't look it.
I think it's just another aspect of people "judging on appearances".
Which is fine. We all do
Being good looking must be the best thing in the world lol
Don't bet on it. Just look at the numerous so-called beautiful celebrities who are s**t unhappy in their lives...
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Can't really speak of myself as I'm not really sure. Looks are subjective. Some people have called me good looking throughout my life, but I dunno if I'm truly good looking nor if I've been given a pass on anything for it. Also, I'm a guy.. I think this applies a bit more to girls - as good looking girls can definitely get away with more.
I can comment on some others, though. I find that I'm much more tolerant of others aspie traits if I find them to be physically attractive. I find their traits to be a little more... cute, vs annoying. But if I'm around someone with aspie traits that I'm not attracted to (even if they're not ugly - they might actually be fairly good looking, just not my type.) then I find their aspie traits frustrating and annoying... but if someone I was attracted to exhibited the exact same traits I might be a lot more tolerant of them or maybe even find their quirks cute.
So, yeah, I can agree that good looking aspies can get a pass on their aspie traits by others simply for being good looking.
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Well i'm definitely no Brad Pitt. Okay maybe some girls think i'm cute because I still have a baby face. But I guarantee you once I get to be in my mid 20s and my face gets older and I lose that boyish look, I will be pretty ugly because i'm very short and slim and i'm not going to get any taller. I'm 5 ft 2 and like 102 pounds.
No i'm not going to be attracting any women with my looks alone.
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No i'm not going to be attracting any women with my looks alone.
You don't know that. Stop making assumptions.
1.) You might always have that "boyish" look vs. lose it. You never know.
2.) Not having a boyish look any longer doesn't automatically make someone ugly.
3.) Short & slim aren't automatically unattractive, either. Some people are attracted to short slim people.
Seriously, the ugliest thing you've posted is your attitude & perspective. If you believe this stuff about yourself, it'll come across in your lack of confidence, and that will be unattractive - a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. I'm not suggesting you become narcissistic, but at least maintain a neutral outlook about yourself and you'll be perceived as more attractive than someone who's negative about themselves. Guaranteed.
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Yes. Quite what makes me like or dislike the look of somebody, I don't understand very well. Yet in the mainstream there seems to be a consensus, I guess celebrities provide the templates, often based on biological attraction signals. With me it seems more about the particular person, and seems to be linked with people who look like people I've liked or disliked in the past. But the way they behave probably makes more difference.
Yes girls do seem much more likely to be judged on their looks, though not so much in some circles.
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