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20 Oct 2012, 1:06 pm

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So....it's impossible for an NT to be selfish? Wow....I've seen people act selfish before. I often hear people say ''gosh, how selfish!''

Absolutely not! It's possible for any human to be selfish, and even usually unselfish people will be selfish at times.

I knew that, I just thought this thread was implying that all NTs intentions are always going to be aimed at how they want you to feel. I'm sure people in the street don't look at me in an intimidating way just because they want me to feel intimidated, they just look at me because they don't care or don't even give it a second thought (athough some nasty people stare at me on purpose just to make sure I feel intimidated, but most stares I get are just thoughtless).

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20 Oct 2012, 1:08 pm

Many threads around here seem to imply that NTs "always" all sorts of odd things.

I thought it was odd of you to think that, btw, because you usually seem more...I don't know the word, but more whatever-it-would-take to make someone not think that.

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20 Oct 2012, 1:13 pm

Guys, this isn't referring to the disorder here. The term has been used this way long before it was applied to the disorder. The name came to autism from schizophrenic autism + childhood schizophrenia -> childhood autism. Autism was used to describe a symptom of schizophrenia were they seemed disconnected from the world, and the term was used to refer to children who were once thought of as schizophrenic until they realized they had something else.

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20 Oct 2012, 1:41 pm

Autism should be another word for ''world's cruelest condition'', if anything.

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20 Oct 2012, 11:02 pm

Yep....a lot of us are, even if we don't realize it. I like to think I am a caring individual that has a lot of compassion for the oppressed, etc. That being said, when I am not "in my own world", all conversations get turned back to me even if I don't realize it. It is a quality of autism, but doesn't mean we don't care about others.

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20 Oct 2012, 11:08 pm

"Absorbed into self" seems like it'd fit AS/AD.

Being as they're generally pathological forms of introversion, which has the same meaning (it's just not a disorder).

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21 Oct 2012, 1:01 am

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I strongly agree with this.

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21 Oct 2012, 1:18 am

Something that I heard a lot when I was a child, was the phrase 'He's in his own little world' when relating to my autism. But it was also said about folks who are simply very introverted.

I kind of like that turn of phrase as well, as 'being absorbed in my own little world' adds some gravity to the imagery when compared to 'being absorbed into myself'.

See, I feel as though my preferred state-of-mind and state-of-being is not so much being 'retreated' into myself, or into my own head, but rather to be by myself + all the things in this world that have meaning and value to me. I can sit in my room surrounded by my books or my CDs, and be absorbed into THAT and pay less mind to the 'rest' of the world.
Or, I could go to the park or to a stretch of nature, and be 'alone' with the trees, and the herbs, and the birds, and close myself off from any joggers or other passers-by.
I'll be in my own little 'world', which includes elements from the outside world beyond the 'me', but they are elements that I choose to let past my psychological castle walls.

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21 Oct 2012, 7:45 am

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littlelily613 wrote:

I strongly agree with this.

what your doing is not attaching yourself to the other person. you may be "in my own world" but that doesn't mean that your thinking about yourself, your thinking about other things.

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21 Oct 2012, 7:49 am

I had a selfish streak once upon a time. Still (kind of) do, but it's faded with age, really.

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21 Oct 2012, 7:56 am

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this is exactly what I've been talking about, a diminished sense of self or being in the third person. as attached to things as people. it's a very important part of human evolution to have people who don't just blindly follow other people and instead work on their own interests.

unfortunately modern society doesn't cope to well with people like that, your expected to be a people person.

the wealth of the nations mentions that people should be able to be independently qualified irrespective of the state like the greeks used to do.

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21 Oct 2012, 12:01 pm

I know. The term comes from the ancient Greek "αὐτός, -ή, -όν" (autòs, autè, autò), that means "itself", "in itself", "the same".

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21 Oct 2012, 4:22 pm

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I know. The term comes from the ancient Greek "αὐτός, -ή, -όν" (autòs, autè, autò), that means "itself", "in itself", "the same".

My developmental psychologist said that it meant "in itself" meaning being absorbed within oneself to an extreme degree. This doesn't mean you're constantly thinking about yourself..............you're just absorbed in your own interests or routines or sensations or whatever and are not aware of or are under-aware of or are uninterested in the world around you- even if you like talking to other people about your interests, if you're still going on and on about your stuff and are not aware of the other person's reactions or feelings then you're still absorbed in yourself.

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21 Oct 2012, 4:25 pm

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I know. The term comes from the ancient Greek "αὐτός, -ή, -όν" (autòs, autè, autò), that means "itself", "in itself", "the same".

My developmental psychologist said that it meant "in itself" meaning being absorbed within oneself to an extreme degree. This doesn't mean you're constantly thinking about yourself..............you're just absorbed in your own interests or routines or sensations or whatever and are not aware of or are under-aware of or are uninterested in the world around you- even if you like taking to other people about your interests, if you're still going on and on about your stuff and are not aware of the other person's reactions or feelings then you're still absorbed in yourself.

so in yourself as opposed to in the self (which auto meaning the same, would mean that your absorbed in things that are the same as you aka other people)

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21 Oct 2012, 4:45 pm

oliverthered wrote:

daydreamer84 wrote:

Kairi96 wrote:

I know. The term comes from the ancient Greek "αὐτός, -ή, -όν" (autòs, autè, autò), that means "itself", "in itself", "the same".

My developmental psychologist said that it meant "in itself" meaning being absorbed within oneself to an extreme degree. This doesn't mean you're constantly thinking about yourself..............you're just absorbed in your own interests or routines or sensations or whatever and are not aware of or are under-aware of or are uninterested in the world around you- even if you like taking to other people about your interests, if you're still going on and on about your stuff and are not aware of the other person's reactions or feelings then you're still absorbed in yourself.

so in yourself as opposed to in the self (which auto meaning the same, would mean that your absorbed in things that are the same as you aka other people)

no the word autism came from the greek word for self which also meant the same but same also meant self.self is the root of the word autism.autistics are more self oriented because there overwhelmed by there own bodies sensations

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21 Oct 2012, 6:54 pm

I remember reading somewhere that autism meant "daydreaming disease". I don't remember where I read it, though. :roll:

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