If you think you have autism but don't, you're a loser.

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The underlying message and question in the original post was quite serious, even if you don't personally take the term "loser" seriously.

Rephrased:
What kind of people tend to ask if they're autistic but really aren't?

Other NTs suggested it would tend to be people who deplore their own lack of a social life or what society would popularly call "losers" and are wondering why their social life sucks so much. What kind of people do these tend to be, exactly? Do they tend to be depressed? Do they have tend to poorly regulate their facial expressions? Do they speak "oddly"? Do they communicate poorly? Do they have ToM issues, regardless of being neurotypical? What characterizes these not-autistic people seeking autism as a possible explanation?

The reason I'm asking because I am this person seeking autism as a possible explanation for my inexplicable social difficulties that other programming geeks in my CS department don't seem to have. I mean, you'd popularly think of CS geeks as being on the bottom of the social barrel, so to speak, so if you're having social problems within the CS department... then that suggests something else is going on beyond introversion and I'm wondering what it is exactly if not autism.

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Want me to post a pretty little guesture for your score board?

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Is this whole thread a joke?

Well, no, not exactly.

I mean, yes, people are chatty and tend to joke around when they're chatting until people post "Do not feed the troll" images and then it's back to serious business. I think they call them... oh, party poopers?

LetLiveAndDie, the guy who posted the Troll image, dislikes me, btw. He's offended because I didn't get his joke in another thread and acted "insecure" or something like that as he kindly let me know in a private message, so he's just being vengeful.

And that serious business is, as was intended at the beginning:

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My Gawd, it's full of stars, what a surprise.



I'll give you $50 to your paypal account if the vast majority are not ADHD.

((:B)) 'yawn' I can find better skill in youtube, swbluto. *leaves thread* Bye. Cute avatar, but really......... ...... .....

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See you Lienda!

This thread still has some serious business, though. It wasn't exactly meant to be a "trolling thread".

I know you are not trolling.

Having said that, I still wonder why you think someone is going to answer this question in some unique way, as to provide 'the panacea' for you personally. I get the vibe that's what you are looking for here, again, for that silver bullet reply that will penetrate enough to give that 'epiphanic vista.' You've been fishing for the same exact answer in your thread starters, and you get the same responses. I guess you are hoping that some newb or passerby may give that to you?

Or a supremely talented NT psychologist. Or a throng of people with significant personal insight and at least adequate psychological training. I'm kind of getting the impression I'll need to pay for that expertise eventually, however.

Right now, I'm getting ADHD testing through the local psychologist but I don't think ADHD is my deal because that one executive functioning test said I was at the 50 percentile and apparently ADHD'rs get below the 10th percentile or so like aspies? I'm suspecting it might be related to memory, somehow, and I'm also getting memory testing to test that.

Does anyone know what kind of WAIS IQ subtest score patterns are typical for aspies? I read in another thread that differences in the Corpus Callosum reduces the efficiency of information transmitted between the two brain lobes, causing significant discrepencies on the IQ test's subtest scores. Does anyone know what I can keep an eye out for to see if I have an "aspie" score pattern? I have a feeling my psychologist doesn't know but maybe someone here does!

I've seen posted here and elsewhere that 30 points spread indicates some type of problem--( discrepant verbal/ non-verbal scores) .

Cute insult, but really.... .... ....

A safe bet: You personally can rule out ADHD if stimulants do not work for you. Caffeine, etc.

Another: If your dysexecutive functioning is 'rock solid unchangeable' -- I mean even if bad it never vacillates.

You've picked my interest.

There was a poster here that participated in a "trial" that had " 30 IQ points difference" and was sure he had it, but failed the Autism DX.

I'm sure a good number of self-diagnosed people on WP don't actually have autism.

That's my point, they're not well known at all. They are folks with particular struggles but as far as I can tell they do not self identify as being on the autism spectrim.

During the past few years I have been educating myself about Aspergers Syndrome because I am in close association with 3 diagnosed kids; one nephew, one godson and the son of a close friend. Because I found myself becoming impatient with them as they entered their teens, I realized I needed to get grip. Coincidentally one of the kid's fathers self-diagnosed during this time period. That's just 4 people but their similarities are striking.

Also coincidentally I have two sweet intelligent lady friends who both exasperated me with their appearant lack of common sense, lack of confidence and (what I now recognize as) poor executive function. Because of reading here at WP I now understand that they are not simply lacking discipline. They are most likely aspie and struggle mighitly to live as independantly as they do.

As I became more interested in the syndrome, I started to see it in various of my adult associates who appearantly do not self identify as aspies. These are folks in their 40s & 50s.

I know these people from work (@70 workers I interact with), neighbors in my condo complex (@ 50 of them I associate with) and church (maybe another 70 adults); a pool of approximately 200 adults.

8 out of 200 adults may seem high but that's what I'm seeing in my environs nonetheless. I'm not actively looking for it, but every once in a while, I notice something specific. John, at work, bounces past on the balls of his feet and for the 1st time I realize that's toe walking and that's why his gait looks odd.

Is John an aspie? Well, he stims, has meltdowns (though infrequent), often becomes overwhelmed by noise, it's hard to get his attention and whereas he seems to love women, he has never dated and he's in his 40s and fairly handsome. On the other hand, he gets along with co-workers, seems to have good executive function, has voice inflection and I've never noticed that he has problems with Theory of Mind. I think he's an aspie.

Sometimes one finds that certain kinds of people cluster in certain areas of employment, interest, etc. Statistics are nice for theory but sometimes reality defies theory and statistics.

Dude, if you're really a 24 year old guy with a good job, Friday night is not the time for posting stuff like this online. Go do some fun stuff.