Autistic/Aspie Stereotypes You Don't Display?

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11 Oct 2011, 1:01 pm

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wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.


I always thought those were the signs of a future serial killer.



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11 Oct 2011, 1:10 pm

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The few folks I've told about AS since my official dx have been baffled b/c they've claimed "you can't have Aspergers. AS folk can't shoot a basketball and understand sarcasm. You can!"


I was going to give almost the exact same answer as you ... these are the two things about me that don't entirely fit the stereotype and a big part of the reason why I think I've been able to assimilate into the real world with reasonable success. The thing you said about your athletic skills is so much like me in so many ways. I was the top seed on my high school tennis team in my senior year and I could get into a zone shooting a basketball where I could nail 3-pointers all day long. And then I'd trip and fall down on my way off the court. It always seemed the second I relaxed from an athletic activity, I turned into a klutz for just long enough to embarrass myself.

Sarcasm? Oh yeah. I'm the king of that ... to the point of overdoing it actually. :)



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11 Oct 2011, 2:19 pm

I'm not the most coordinated person, but I'm actually quite good at sports, especially when I work at it. I used to run and I was very fast, I even did a mile in under 6 minutes once. I also played baseball and was good at most of the skills required. The hardest thing for me, oddly, was throwing accurately, which is easy for most people but I worked on it for over a year and still I only made good throws maybe 70-80% of the time, which is not very good. The other hard thing for me was hitting a fastball because I have a slow reaction time. Fortunately I was good at hitting curveballs and change-ups because they are slower, but most pitchers in high school throw a lot of fastballs.

Anyways, my athletic ability is the big one. I also think my interests are things non-aspies can relate to a bit better than most aspie interests.


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11 Oct 2011, 3:18 pm

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-Suck at math
-Use analogies/idioms/metaphors/etc to understand things. (literal language non-fail in other words)
-Have lots of imagination
-Pretending games were what my childhood consisted of
-Other stuff people have mentioned

Lol, it seems like there's a group of Aspies who have these similar qualities that seem to be contradictory to the diagnosis. There are 2 groups of Aspies*:
Those who can do math
Those who can't do math

Since I'm also ADHD, I have to wonder if the others who have similar characteristics have ADHD qualities or are diagnosed with it. But that could just be corellation and causation and all that good stuff, so if not, then one more wild theory for the trash.

*vague generality that does not necessarily represent actuality


Heh.

For the record, I have much in common with the ADHD-I diagnosis, although my DX is officially Asperger's.

One of my main problems with math, besides my terrible short-term memory, is I have an extremely non-linear thought-process and I don't do as well in subjects where I'm confined by a lot of rules (which math has in spades). There also seems to be a divide between people who can grasp abstractions as opposed to people who only want to deal with concrete information.

The main difference I've noted between math/science nerds and artistic geeks is the former generally tends to prefer answering questions where there is only one "correct" answer, and the latter are content to contemplate questions that have many possible answers.


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11 Oct 2011, 6:45 pm

hanyo wrote:
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I was debating on how to phrase that last point for a while, and I was going to go with "probably wrong" but then I realized that, from my perspective, with that wording, its impossible for your solipsism to be right.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Again, I do not believe in Solipism, it's craziness. But, you can't prove to me you exist, I totally know you do exist, but you can't definitively prove you exist. This could all be my dream and a result of subconcious, again, DO NOT BELIEVE, but, you can't disprove that as far as I'm aware.


There are people I've interacted with in my dreams but they don't exist no matter how real they may seem. Have you seen the Matrix? How do you know other people or any of this is real?

Maybe everyone else is a computer generated npc in the matrix and I'm the only real one.

I don't think that but it's interesting to think about.


Well yeah, there is always the possibility, but you really can't go around thinking about the possibility, as it that type of thought pattern changes the way people behave. Also its impossible for more than one person to be correct about Solipism due to the definition.

As for non-solipsistic neologisms, I never use them in conversation, but I use them in my head when I'm thinking about an abstract idea, and I need a word to refer things that belong to the idea by, and the words I use are random and make no logical sense, they are just temporary names for concepts, such as I assigned the word "agora" to an operation with the property that addition is its iteration, and "aimeda function" for the function whose its derivative is its inverse and passes through (1,1). Its not just for mathematical concepts, its for any abstract concepts I don't have names for and I think about. Does this count as creating neologisms?



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11 Oct 2011, 11:07 pm

Here are some traits I DO NOT display:
Rocking, flapping, twitching, and other unusual physical movements.
I am not into sci-fi, fiction, or fantasy novels, such as Harry Potter and Twilight.
I am definitely not a math/science genius.
I have an average IQ, most people with AS have above-average IQs.
I understand empathy and sympathy pretty well.



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12 Oct 2011, 12:03 am

I am not goth.
I don't have any unusual movements.
I get sarcasm (sometimes)
I get actual jokes, as opposed to "jokes" (stuff people say that they claim is a joke when it seems like it's not)
I try to empathize and sympathize.
I actually have friends! (although one is autistic)
I don't hate loud noise.
I actually use expression in my voice, to the point I'm very good at drama!


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12 Oct 2011, 12:53 am

~ I can normally understand sarcasm. I do tend to ask if someone is being sarcastic or not to make sure though.
~ I'm not very intelligent, I got around 140 IQ which isn't that great compared to many on here i'm sure :D
~ I'm not very imaginative or creative. Hence my amazing username ;)
~ I don't read fiction at all, hate sci-fi, don't like anime, etc.
~ I don't really have an intense narrow subject i obsess over. I study different psychological disorders quite a lot, and i also study parapsychology, I wouldn't call them obsessive though, i spend maybe 2-4 hours most days researching.


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12 Oct 2011, 8:48 am

I am a lifelong athlete, which conflicts with the dyspraxia 'stereotype' - but I can be quite uncoordinated when not exercising, such as dropping things and losing my balance.


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12 Oct 2011, 9:04 am

1. I'm not fat.
2. I don't use my Aspergers to get away with anything.
3. I don't tell every person on the planet about it.
4. I am not socially immature. In fact, I dislike immaturity a lot.
5. I do not pass every single test with a 100% every time. Who am I? Superman?


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12 Oct 2011, 9:13 am

2. I can't do maths
8. I can use sarcasm, similes and metaphors (do not always pick up when another person uses them)
5. I cried when my Granny died (too much empathy :roll: )
3. I have a good sense of humour.

Did anyone notice what I did in this post?

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12 Oct 2011, 9:34 am

I never use my AS as an excuse yet my dad thinks I do! :evil:
I hate maths and am terrible at it
I have terrible grades
I don't listen to underground metal (trust me, that is a stereotype)
I'm not that good at reading
I don't really have meltdowns (like, if I'm in a massive crowd of people I only freak out inside)



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12 Oct 2011, 10:02 am

Obviously, I am not a male. But the sterotype that really makes my blood run cold is the one where we are all supposedly geniuses at math. My life would have been so much easier if that one applied to me. Everytime someone brings it up, I want to strangle them.


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12 Oct 2011, 10:40 am

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Obviously, I am not a male. But the sterotype that really makes my blood run cold is the one where we are all supposedly geniuses at math. My life would have been so much easier if that one applied to me. Everytime someone brings it up, I want to strangle them.


I am not a genius in Maths but I am in the intellectually gifted category (as measured by IQ, which will no doubt inflame some here).

I always found Maths easy - but only studied as far as Bachelor degree level and then only as a 'minor' to my science major.

I have absolutely no computer/programming talent and even less interest in it.
- I don't get upset hearing Autistic people talk about their programming/computing skills

Whilst I do enjoy being able to do mental arithmetic with ease, I wouldn't say my life has been made easier for it, as I do not work as a mathematician, physicist or engineer.


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12 Oct 2011, 1:07 pm

i dont understand why most people think people wiith as dont have imagination or dont have any feelings. where does that come from



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12 Oct 2011, 2:29 pm

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Who_Am_I wrote:
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Who_Am_I wrote:
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According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals. Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?
I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?
The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.An aspie wouldn't torture animals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad

So my GP equates AS with psychopathy?

Time to change GPs, then...

Oftentimes, sociopaths are misdiagnosed as aspies. Your GP, however, clearly has no clue what he's talking about.

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~ I'm not very intelligent, I got around 140 IQ which isn't that great compared to many on here i'm sure :D

That's actually a very impressive IQ. Although, if you ask me, IQ testing is complete BS. A person could take an IQ test one day and then get a completely different result taking it the next day. As for me, my answers were apparently too "out-of-the-box" when I took the test as a child.


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