Suicide rate of ASD people

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07 Dec 2011, 6:17 am

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The book says 32% of people with AS report having mental health problems.
8% in one study, 15% in another study had planned or attempted suicide: count me in with that number
meanwhile 0.6% of people on the ASD had successfully succeeded at suicide which is significantly higher then the normal population.

I suspect that the 0.6% figure may be lower than the actual rate.

According to The Samaritans the rate of suicide peeks at ages 40-49 in Scotland, 25-29 for men and 40-44 for women in Northern Ireland and 25-29 in The Republic of Ireland.

The rate of diagnosis will be fairly high at these age ranges (especially as most statistics will be from a few years ago when even less people at that age range were diagnosed).

It is suspected that suicide is under-reported in general (either due to cultural reasons or when intent cannot be established).

There may also be a number of cases where the suicide is not linked with the ASD in the statistics. This may be due to the medical records not being used in the investigation or, when somebody has multiple conditions (I have both Asperger's and Depression on my medical file), the suicide is only linked to one of them.

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07 Dec 2011, 1:15 pm

I would say it's much higher than the usual population. Even if it's only 1% or 2%, that's pretty high. And let's not forget the attempts at suicide. Sorry to say I have three under my belt. Like the sleep issues this is an area that needs more research.

I am terrified of growing older, and I can't imagine I will have much tolerance for the physical complications of old age. So this issue could rear its head again if I have trouble walking, or need an oxygen tank, etc.

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07 Dec 2011, 2:31 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:

JohnyJohn wrote:

Surfman wrote:

I like how you stop making sense.... when your actions are questioned

Thats okay, there are plenty people who are the same

I don't understand,can you elaborate?

I could, but we aren't supposed to be mean here.

Frances

How old are you guys?? It's an honest question. You guys are just going back and forth arguing about absolutely nothing. If it's some kind of personal conflict or something, then take it out using Pm's. This isn't Jerry Springer, all you guys are doing is lighting up someone's post with completely irrelevant comments. So be big boys and girls now and apologize and move on please!

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12 Dec 2011, 8:35 pm

JohnyJohn wrote:

Ninety percent?Ninety-eight percent?

I heard somewhere that it's 78% more likely among kids with autism/Asperger's than non-autistic kids.

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12 Dec 2011, 10:33 pm

I guess those with autism are more inclined to commit suicide because from my own experiences and what I observe, what they are living with is something that can never truly go away. They have autism pretty much for life and have to deal with it. People say suicide is a final answer to a temporary problem, but for those with autism? Autism is not temporary, they basically have to learn to live with it and it can be very hard. It definitely has been for me when transitioning from high school to college.

Another factor is the expectations I have to deal with as someone with Asperger's and this mainly applies to Aspies and those who tend to be more high functioning. People often expect me to be a genius or have special talents because I have Asperger's and I have been successful and I have shown intelligence and talent to some extent, but they aren't as good as what people expect them to be. Like, I may have an excellent memory and can remember past events in detail, but not to the point where I remember the exact dates and times each event takes place. The fact that people often make me feel pressured as an Aspie to be some sort of genius that can change the world is too much for me and often times that is what my teachers, my family, and just society in general wants out of me despite the fact that they insist that, that is not the case.

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12 Dec 2011, 11:47 pm

Surfman wrote:

Its more to do with the country you live in than AS

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Brazil and Thailand have the lowest suicide rates because of strong family and community, pious religious attitudes, and excellent varied diets rich in vitamins and minerals. Also lack of dominant alcohol culture

Brazil seems to have a fairly low rate of suicide, but Thailand is nothing spectacular. In fact, the suicide rate among males is higher in Thailand than it is in the UK. At least per the UN World Health Organization:

http://www.who.int/mental_health/preven ... index.html

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North Eastern Europe has the highest rates, low sunlight and uncaring drunken corrupt governments....

Not exactly. If you confine yourself to males, yes, you've got a point. But to go back to the WHO chart, the top five suicide rates by country for females are:

REPUBLIC OF KOREA
SRI LANKA
CHINA (Selected rural & urban areas)
GUYANA
JAPAN

Last time I checked, none of the above were exactly in Northeastern Europe. China is also remarkable in that it seems to be the only country in the world with a higher suicide rate among females than males.

BTW, Brazil has the 12th highest murder rate in the world, per wikipedia. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

A rate five times higher than us (supposedly) violent Americans. So, while Brazilians don't seem to be into killing themselves, they sure seem to like to bump each other off. Do you think it is the spirituality, the minerals or the sunlight that makes them so vicious and murderous? :roll:

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13 Dec 2011, 10:59 am

slovaksiren wrote:

That is one thing I never got, how would anyone else know if my problems are temporary or not.....if anything it just pisses me off when people say that because they might as well just say 'you might as well go for it unless its a temporary problem you are suffering from.' next time i should ask what they suggest i do if my problems aren't temporary.

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13 Dec 2011, 12:25 pm

JohnyJohn wrote:

CockneyRebel wrote:

Are you really interested in the suicide rate of autistics, or are you just asking us a bunch of questions to see what kind of reactions we're going to give you?

I am truly interested to see how we cope in life.

Wouldn't it be easier to Google it if that was the case?

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15 Dec 2011, 2:25 am

I'm guessing there are a lot of Aspies like myself that wish they were never born and don't want to live but are too afraid to end it all.

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