The truth about cannabis
I don't like it as much as other things. It has certain properties that I really like, and some that do not appeal to me very much.
First being it makes me really tired! I can't have a smoke session with people without wanting to pass-out (I have to walk home a lot too which sucks).
It makes me paranoid. I end up saying things I don't mean, or that are just stupid. Whoever said weed makes you creative or better at critical thinking is naive or just high.
It's always expensive. Luckily, I can conserve it very well since it doesn't take much to get me lifted. Still it only lasts me a few days. I coulda bought a video game, or something that lasts me a month with the money I spent on weed.
This also falls into how it makes you hungry. I don't like having munchies. I never have money to buy food (since I just spent it on weed), and the food I have is meant for meals before and after a long day. Not for me to just pig out on and passout.
It attracts some people I do not like. Such as:
Pot heads who believe pot is the calling of god and think the government is out to get them. These people rave on and on about the government being evil, yet the government is supporting their lazy asses. Legalization of weed some how enters every conversation I have with them.
Dealers who are unreliable, and out to rip you off to make a couple more bucks. These people are never available, and never re-up. They purport that they are going to be somewhere at sometime. Instead of telling you straight that they will not be there, you wait and wait and waste time. Some will short you by a lot or give you some bunk product and tell you straight to your face that its a lot or that it's good stuff.
I've met cool pot heads, and had a few really good dealers. They are quite rare in my experience, though.
What I like about it:
It's smokable. I smoke cigarettes so smoking weed comes natural to me. I used to like to mix the 2 together into a spliff or bong load. The rush of tobacco buzzes you out, and the weed makes it linger.
The pipes and various methods of ingestion. The pipes that people make are insane. They are works of art that have a purpose. Vaporizers are quite interesting machines too. Also you can make delicious food with it that gets you high.
It mixes well with every other drug. Booze with weed is great. DXM afterglow and weed is very relaxing. Shrooms/Lsd with weed gives far better visuals.
I like weed. It just doesn't appeal to me right now. I have better methods of mental expansion and relaxation (other drugs). Sometimes just being sober is a drug. I write, draw, and play music the best sober. I don't care what I've said in the past. Drugs can help come up with the ideas, but in order to actually carry them out you need a clear head.
"Stick match, bought a pack at the dispatch/
Scratched with a flash, lightin up this hash/
But it was a mismatch, herb 'n' I ain't mash/
Every time we smoked it I ended up in sleep crash/
All along it was game like that one balderdash/
People gave me questions and I can't answer em/
It was like i was inflicted with that one condition/
What do they call it? Oh yeah Ganser Syndrome/
Kept forgettin and the secrets kept slippin/
Not sure whats clandestine or ok to be said, kid/
S'why I don't smoke anymore in these days/
But I still have fond memories of the weed days/"
^I wrote that when I decided to take a break from herb.
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Lies. and no I do not see cannabis as a waste as it is used to help people but tabbacco yes it is a big waste I honestly think it would be great if that sh** wasn't even invented but hey I'm addicted.
No lie.
sciencedailydotcom/releases/2007/12/071217110328 .htm
I myself have also researched scientifically this.
Addict? Spend a few hours in a dry Sauna and you'll feel some of the Marijuana toxins coming out.
WTF? that link does not even work dude.
and I'm much more serverly addicted to nicotine then marijuana.
and marijuana is NON TOXIC.
Lies. and no I do not see cannabis as a waste as it is used to help people but tabbacco yes it is a big waste I honestly think it would be great if that sh** wasn't even invented but hey I'm addicted.
No lie.
sciencedailydotcom/releases/2007/12/071217110328 .htm
I myself have also researched scientifically this.
Addict? Spend a few hours in a dry Sauna and you'll feel some of the Marijuana toxins coming out.
Sooooo now you're saying its fine, just go in the suana to get the toxins out? Care to specify the research you have done?
Concerning your earlier post, that opinion can easily extend to coffee, steak, deoderant and air fresheners, so its really neither here nor there, almost trollish.
proper link
That link indicates higher levels of hydrogen cyanide and ammonia in marijuana smoke as opposed to tobacco. Those are toxic at high-dosages in the short-term, and neither has significant effects attributed to long-term low-level exposure. There is a difference from one "toxin" to another. If the toxins in weed are ones that my body can absorb and eventually metabolize, great!! At least they aren't the carcinogenic toxins more prevalent in tobacco smoke.
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Well, two true things have been brought forth here in the midst of speaking of lies. One is that Marijuana does leave traces of THC in your system for weeks after you use it, which is why it gets implicated in car accidents (though that trace, weeks later, is obviously not making the driver high, so the connection is erroneous). The other, which Burnbridge really illustrated beautifully with the description of his experience, is that lying to schoolchildren in order to scare them not only is ineffective in stopping them from taking drugs, it can even backfire into a form of encouragement, as they may go seeking truth on their own, unguided, once the lie is discovered.
I advocate legality, even for recreational use. I believe it to be safer than alcohol. I also advocate providing truthful, accurate information, just as I do with sex education, so that kids are taught that engaging in an activity carries real world responsibilities and consequences. Scare tactics are counterproductive. Shaming, exaggeration, and withholding information leads them to clandestinely seek guilty pleasures. Facts and open discussion allow them to ask questions, carefully consider decisions, and come forward if they get into trouble without fear of being punished for seeking help.
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Not joking. The rest is opinions, refutable sciences and personal experiences.
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Dosen't creating a law againsit a natural growing substance seem unnatural to you?
Not joking. The rest is opinions, refutable sciences and personal experiences.
I respect you and your opinions, but I disagree, I'm sorry for losing respect and my cool with MrXXX - but I do not regret or take back anything that I have said, If you have not taken the time to understand my points then to each his own. And I disagree with you because They are not technically "all" opinions, there are many hypothesis, and also many theories in this forum.
Although In my opinion Tambourine man is the only correct response to the forum title.
And I am real surprised no one has covered the history of medicine and how things came to be
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It was once mandatory that people grew hemp.
I heard nutmeg can really mess you up...and should they make sniffing gas illegal?
What about cannabis indica?
My Biopsychology text books talks about the G1 and G2 receptors, .....google?
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Dosen't creating a law againsit a natural growing substance seem unnatural to you?
As a plant, is less of a threat to humanity than poison ivy.
Cannabis is not harmful if taken in moderate amounts and same applies to any other vices like drinking. Drugs other than cannabis are but harmful for sure. Many Asian countries and African countries have sages and priests who practice and propagate having cannabis. It is even given to cancer patients. Cannabis is said to improve the % of brain cell used (Lets not dispute about this now, i meant that humans do use whole of brain, but some parts are not active due to evolution. Its like ears which are just obsolete and as per evolution wouldn't be long before it shrinks down).
I just power through the anxiety and by the 2nd or 3rd day of smoking it's all good
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I would end up being sectioned if I smoked for 3 days straight. I am not joking.
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Then maybe you shouldn't smoke like I used to.
In the 3 year period from '05-'07 I didn't smoke for a grand total of 3 days.
I was a hardcore stoner. I found levels of stoned unimaginable to most casual smokers.
I pretty much squeezed all that I possibly could get out of that stuff. I'm done with it now, it has nothing more to offer me.
Speaking from experience, it's not even harmful in excessive amounts.
Just a few months of daily drinking did far more damage to me than a lifetime of heavy pot use.
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I would like to point out Medicinal use of cannabis is both effective and is properly named "medicinal" and should not be used or abused in just social settings.
If people have cannabis as a last resort for pain or other, It might be appreciative if there wasn't dogma and judgement laced into someone else's life choices and mindful expression.
I don't know that using cannabis in a social setting or for other reasons then to relive physical pain is really abuse....abuse to me would be if someone smokes cannabis all the time and that's pretty much the only thing they do and it negivitly interferes with their life...most cannabis users don't abuse it.
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The only truth I know is my own experience.
Doesn't lead to other drugs? Bull. Of course it does. Just because there are people out there who've never done anything but pot, doesn't mean it doesn't lead to other drugs. I've planted flowers in pots, and they never got weeds. That doesn't mean flower planters don't get weeds. Every person I ever knew who smoked pot, started with pot, and eventually did all kinds of other street drugs. Every one of them. And I knew a LOT of them. It does lead to other drugs. To believe otherwise just because a few manage not to do anything else, is like denying you won't get hit by a car crossing interstate 95 near Boston just because you know some people that have done it and lived.
The rest is just experience. And I trust that more than anything I read on the web.
Here's what I got from using it:
Destroyed my short term memory for several years. It took many years to get it back.
Destroyed pretty much all my motivation.
Exacerbated my AS symptoms, including but not limited to alertness, awareness of social rules, sociability in general, desire to interact with people unless they were stoned too, ability to think logically, and many other things I can't even remember right now.
Wasted years of time accomplishing nothing of importance.
I'm not even going to bother listing everything. Suffice to say it did nothing positive for me whatsoever.
And yes, this is just my own experience, but I have also known a great many people who've done it and given it up for the very same reasons. I know not one person whose given it up that defends it. The only people I know who do are still taking the stuff. Yeah, well I defended it too while I was taking it. Now that it's out of my system now for over twenty years, I know for a fact how much fallacy is behind the arguments I used for it. But I never would have known had I not gotten it out of my life.
Since the vast majority of marijuana defenders are users themselves, I don't trust anything any of them say is "The Truth" about cannabis. I look for sources that DON'T use it. A foggy mind on drugs should never be trusted. I've heard and used most of these arguments and save but a few of them, most of them are just not true in my universe. But my universe is drug free.
I started with Alcohol, then ciggerettes then did a bunch of drugs including cannabis and then I decided to only use other drugs on occasion and stick to cannabis, beer, ciggerettes and caffine the majority of the time. But yeah everyone is different and I do not think cannabis really makes people try other drugs.
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