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24 Dec 2011, 4:56 pm

This particular Christmas is being difficult for me. It's been a rough few months and I don't have it together for Christmas as I usually would. To be honest, it's been a few years since I really got it right.

When I was a kid I loved Christmas time, and as a parent I have tried to make it even more magical for my own children than it was for me. . . I feel like such a failure this year. I have been setting the bar high for a long time, but this year, I haven't bought many presents (and won't be able to now, either). . . don't really have meals planned, although I do have food and a vague idea of what I could make to eat.

It's always been right around this time - 5pm Xmas eve - that I decide whatever is not done yet, isn't getting done this year. But there's nothing done. I still have to put away the boxes from the decorations. Bake something. I don't know.....

Hope this is as low as it gets.



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24 Dec 2011, 5:23 pm

The thing I like about being 54 with adult children is that I can let all the fancy stuff around Christmas be their problem. I deal with my little one, who doesn't particularly care about the trappings as long as she gets some new stuff.


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24 Dec 2011, 7:29 pm

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Hi Robdemanc! :D sorry, well.. try to do what you think would make them smile or something they would appreciate that u know even if just little things, and out of love in the sense that it is something u want to do for them and would even get out of your way or your comfort zone a bit, which could be as simple as purchasing them a gift, or staying with them during the holiday gathering, doing a gesture u want to do for them that u want to do or is ok for u to do as well.. its the holidays, everyone should be happy or at least okay.. :D


Thanks. The problem I have is this "that I want to do", this concept is tricky for me when it comes to people. I don't particularly want to do anything with people, and I don't even know what these people might like. I am going to try to say little and just go along with what they are doing and pretend that I understand it.


i see.. ok, if u dont want to do anything with people, how about things you would like to do for these people? and how about those u want them to feel.. u kinda asked so i assume there is something you would want to do for them, i could help and guide u figure something out that wont be too much for u..

and what they like, u could get clues with what they watch, buy, also do and wear and talk about. what do they have a lot of, if u have been pretending to understand thats ok because thats what works for you and i assume it works with the people ur with, so we could also still pretend we understand why they like such things, so we could get them or do those things for them or some other things similar..
anyway nobody can get it head on right what others would want, its always the thought that counts.. :) that u want them to have something..


Surely though you can do kind things for people all year round. I don't see why people should be forced by tradition into a special set aside day of gift giving and spending time with people.

I prefer spontaneous gift giving and kindness.

One of my friends was moaning about people having untraditional pretentious christmas dinners, but I don't see why there should be a day where everyone is brainwashed into eating the same thing, turkey. That freaks me out! Why is the whole country en masse blindly following tradition? When has "because everyone else is doing it" ever been a good reason to do something?

I think I might get take away food too. Yum.



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24 Dec 2011, 11:39 pm

I like to have stuff to look forward to, even if I'm not really involved in it. I like to look at decorations that people put up and stuff. I basically only like Christmas for lots of eating and drinking booze, and to see what stuff is put on tv for Christmas. I dread the parts involving being fake with irritating people I know for like an hour and getting presents I don't need or really want. I get bored going shopping for presents, although I like going to malls. I think this Christmas is going to be lousy for me as my family is being extra difficult lately.



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25 Dec 2011, 12:25 am

I'm going to spend most of my christmas day around my stepfather's family and honestly...I couldn't care less. I usually just slink off into some corner with some coffee or something and mind my own business whilst everyone else socializes. Mostly because I have nothing to say. Christmas just doesn't hold that same "magic" for me as it did when I was a a younger child.



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25 Dec 2011, 4:31 am

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For those that get angry at non-Christians who celebrate consider this: How are we to ignore it and deny our children who see and hear nothing but "christmas" all over t.v. and public places? It's not like there's any escape from it, so join in we must or our children won't understand why Johnny sitting in the desk next to him gets presents and he doesn't. It's kind of crammed down our throats, if you can't beat them, join them.


Those people have absolutely NO right to get angry at non-christians who celebrate christmas because christmas isn't a christian holiday in the first place. All it is is renamed winter solstice. Many of its customs and traditions are still celebrated today and have been since before christ existed. The christians are celebrating a pagan holiday, so if they get mad at you, they're idiots. It's not their holiday in the first place, and it never was. I think it's hilarious when i see signs that say "jesus is the reason for the season."


That is true. The romans decided to turn "Sol Invictus" (the unconquered sun) into Christmas. Today is the first day in which a casual observer in the northern hemisphere can say, after watching the sunrise and comparing it to the previous 3 days sunrise, that the winter solstice has come and gone. And the sun is now returning.



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25 Dec 2011, 4:38 am

I love Christmas, the presents and the food-at the worst, I just have to do a small amount of stimming and get the odd uninteresting present.Christmas is a big beam of light in the middle of the dark.



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25 Dec 2011, 5:16 am

hurtloam wrote:
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Hi Robdemanc! :D sorry, well.. try to do what you think would make them smile or something they would appreciate that u know even if just little things, and out of love in the sense that it is something u want to do for them and would even get out of your way or your comfort zone a bit, which could be as simple as purchasing them a gift, or staying with them during the holiday gathering, doing a gesture u want to do for them that u want to do or is ok for u to do as well.. its the holidays, everyone should be happy or at least okay.. :D


Thanks. The problem I have is this "that I want to do", this concept is tricky for me when it comes to people. I don't particularly want to do anything with people, and I don't even know what these people might like. I am going to try to say little and just go along with what they are doing and pretend that I understand it.


i see.. ok, if u dont want to do anything with people, how about things you would like to do for these people? and how about those u want them to feel.. u kinda asked so i assume there is something you would want to do for them, i could help and guide u figure something out that wont be too much for u..

and what they like, u could get clues with what they watch, buy, also do and wear and talk about. what do they have a lot of, if u have been pretending to understand thats ok because thats what works for you and i assume it works with the people ur with, so we could also still pretend we understand why they like such things, so we could get them or do those things for them or some other things similar..
anyway nobody can get it head on right what others would want, its always the thought that counts.. :) that u want them to have something..


Surely though you can do kind things for people all year round. I don't see why people should be forced by tradition into a special set aside day of gift giving and spending time with people.

I prefer spontaneous gift giving and kindness.

One of my friends was moaning about people having untraditional pretentious christmas dinners, but I don't see why there should be a day where everyone is brainwashed into eating the same thing, turkey. That freaks me out! Why is the whole country en masse blindly following tradition? When has "because everyone else is doing it" ever been a good reason to do something?

I think I might get take away food too. Yum.

well not everyone around the world does the same thing at the same time for the same reason.. its just the time when its also kinda for celebrating one particular day/s a year with the whole world, and the tradition is just to have a certain guideline on what one or other may do. and the celebration of such is through generosity and kindness.. people could do the spontaneous gift giving no one stopping anyone or eat what they want, i know we do but its just a part of what such occasion stands for which unites everyone, celebrating as one and world peace kind of thing.. im not saying christmas or the holidays fixes the world and brings forth ultimate world peace but sometimes thats all that one could have and give for the time and world.


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25 Dec 2011, 5:57 am

Spontaneous gift giving is best, spoil people all year round. Christmas is unimportant but I cant be bothered ranting against it.

If I am are lucky I can spontaneous give at christmas too, if not it dont matter.

I thought about it for the first time yesterday, having managed to filter out every other mention, and I manage to enjoy finding excellent spontaneous gifts for some random subgroup of the people I love. The internet makes that so easy.

The thing I love best about christmas is lunch, especially the trimmings.



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25 Dec 2011, 6:16 am

NcNbl wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
NcNbl wrote:
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NcNbl wrote:
Hi Robdemanc! :D sorry, well.. try to do what you think would make them smile or something they would appreciate that u know even if just little things, and out of love in the sense that it is something u want to do for them and would even get out of your way or your comfort zone a bit, which could be as simple as purchasing them a gift, or staying with them during the holiday gathering, doing a gesture u want to do for them that u want to do or is ok for u to do as well.. its the holidays, everyone should be happy or at least okay.. :D


Thanks. The problem I have is this "that I want to do", this concept is tricky for me when it comes to people. I don't particularly want to do anything with people, and I don't even know what these people might like. I am going to try to say little and just go along with what they are doing and pretend that I understand it.


i see.. ok, if u dont want to do anything with people, how about things you would like to do for these people? and how about those u want them to feel.. u kinda asked so i assume there is something you would want to do for them, i could help and guide u figure something out that wont be too much for u..

and what they like, u could get clues with what they watch, buy, also do and wear and talk about. what do they have a lot of, if u have been pretending to understand thats ok because thats what works for you and i assume it works with the people ur with, so we could also still pretend we understand why they like such things, so we could get them or do those things for them or some other things similar..
anyway nobody can get it head on right what others would want, its always the thought that counts.. :) that u want them to have something..


Surely though you can do kind things for people all year round. I don't see why people should be forced by tradition into a special set aside day of gift giving and spending time with people.

I prefer spontaneous gift giving and kindness.

One of my friends was moaning about people having untraditional pretentious christmas dinners, but I don't see why there should be a day where everyone is brainwashed into eating the same thing, turkey. That freaks me out! Why is the whole country en masse blindly following tradition? When has "because everyone else is doing it" ever been a good reason to do something?

I think I might get take away food too. Yum.

well not everyone around the world does the same thing at the same time for the same reason.. its just the time when its also kinda for celebrating one particular day/s a year with the whole world, and the tradition is just to have a certain guideline on what one or other may do. and the celebration of such is through generosity and kindness.. people could do the spontaneous gift giving no one stopping anyone or eat what they want, i know we do but its just a part of what such occasion stands for which unites everyone, celebrating as one and world peace kind of thing.. im not saying christmas or the holidays fixes the world and brings forth ultimate world peace but sometimes thats all that one could have and give for the time and world.


I am a cynic by nature. I just find that to be a load of fluffy propaganda. I really think that people should a make an effort to be nice to each other all year round. There shouldn't have to be a special season for it. Plus I don't know if people really are filled with all that sugar coated emotion at christmas either.

Man, i'm in super aspie mode today.

Have a nice day with your family anyhoo. I don't mean any ill will. I really just don't get christmas. Some people think that's kinda sad, but i'm in quiet a good mood today.



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25 Dec 2011, 6:58 am

I do like to celebrate Xmas when I have people to celebrate it with but I cannot see the point of celebrating on my own.

I have no family or friends and I have no money either. The result is I have no special Xmas food, I have no Xmas presents, I have no Xmas decorations, I didn't even get an Xmas card or a Merry Xmas from anyone. So today is passing as though it were any other day in my life.

On the bright side the Universe seems to have remembered me even if the world has not. I got a 10 gift card from someone for being a good customer and my University books arrived unexpectedly early so I will be spending today immersed in maths equations and science. At least I get to spend the day doing something I love. In fact I am chuffed that I have another chance to complete my degree and to return to the one thing in life that I adore doing...Studying. You don't get a much better Xmas present than that!

So thank you to the universe for that. And if there is such a thing as god, or the son of god, happy birthday to him. AFter all that is what this holiday was supposed to be about.

As far as man is concerned I may as well be invisible or non existent though lol.



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25 Dec 2011, 7:01 am

What annoys me is that everyone turns on fake happiness and expect me to be part of it when I'm depressed.


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25 Dec 2011, 11:37 am

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25 Dec 2011, 11:53 am

If I had to spend Christmas with 20 plus people, I simply wouldn't go. I usualy just sleep on Christmas. Christmas lost its appeal for me when I realised Santa didn't exhist and when I grew up and stopped getting as many presents. Presents were the only thing I liked about Christmas, but now that I am an adult and have my own income, I can get whatever I want any day of the year, so why is Christmas so special? I hate how the whole world seems to stop and everything is closed or everyone is "busy". My life revolves around routine and when that routine is disrupted, I can't function.


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25 Dec 2011, 12:17 pm

I loved it as a kid because I got presents. Now I don't care for gifts anymore because I am an adult and I have enough stuff. I'd rather get stuff that can be used up. I have also always liked the decorations and the lights though and today we are going to my sister in laws/in laws house and I am not sure how many people be there. There be food and maybe more presents. I'd have my computer with and Nintendo 3DS. Now I can enjoy Christmas even more because I can Christmas shop for my boy all year around so I am not doing it at the end up the year and spending more money for that month.



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25 Dec 2011, 4:39 pm

I used to enjoy Christmas, but Christmas has sucked for the last few years and has been nothing but disappointing for some years now.

Christmas eve used to be a nice, quiet evening with my closest family (all adults), held in my parents home, which is very near where I live. When my sister had children that changed a lot. My family started spending Christmas eve at my sister's house, which is more than an hour's drive away. Her children are way too loud and grabby for me and my husband (I have AS and he's probably on the spectrum too, although not officially diagnosed) and her house is always cold, which has a really bad effect on physical disabilities that we have.

Spending a whole evening with so many people, loud children, lots of different smells, strong lights, a lot of noise and in a cold place would be pretty overwhelming for both me and my husband, and having to drive for more than an hour each way in pitch dark and bad weather conditions and on the verge of a meltdown on the way home after an overwhelming evening just doesn't seem like such a good idea. So we've opted to stay in our own home for Christmas eve instead of going to the family gathering with the rest of the family. My husband doesn't care about Christmas though and can't be bothered to try to make it a nice evening or special in any way, so it's usually really short, casual and boring.

There is usually a smaller gathering at my parents' on Christmas day, which is usually okay and not as long, loud and overwhelming as the other gathering, but it seems like we probably had that gathering for the last time this year, since nobody bothered to come there this year except us because the rest of them all meet on Christmas eve anyway and didn't miss the two autists.

I can't help but feel kind of like an outcast in the family for the way Christmas has been for several years now. It's not that I'm not invited to spend Christmas with the rest of the family (I am), but they have absolutely no understanding or consideration for our needs and don't even try to organize it in a way that would enable us to join them, even just sometimes.

So Christmas has become little else than a reminder of how excluded and isolated I am socially.