Are the un-diagnosed welcome here.

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I don't have an issue with self diagnosed Aspies on here. After all when I first arrived back in the old days, I was self diagnosed. I noticed a thread asking why the self diagnosed weren't getting a diagnosis. In my case, I was trying but there is a significant lack of qualified doctors in the UK, the majority of them would rather just label you as 'mentally unstable' or slap one of many personality disorders on you. I can totally understand why Americans don't want to pay thousands of dollars to see someone as well. I only got diagnosed when I was 19 years old even though I was textbook AS, but like I said that was not because of choice, it was because no one seemed willing to diagnose or help me. Even after I received the diagnosis (and then received it four times since...) I have still had no kind of help. The only benefit it gave me was that I was put in a specialist care home when I was kicked out of my house.

The problem I have is not online, where I am willing to speak to or help anyone, but in real life when someone who blatently doesn't have AS or anything like AS acts like a complete t**t and blames it on their 'AS'. My step-sister says really horrible things to people then pulls the AS card. I don't even do that, if I upset someone I apologise! Online I am not able to see the other person, therefore I do not judge them. I treat them as if they do have AS.

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Actually: yeah, I have no issues with folks who don't have a dx. Getting one isn't always easy.

I'm finding it disturbing that so far we have 8 out of 70 that thinking those without a diagnosis aren't welcome. I've always thought that I was insufferably inflexible, but apparently there are those that have it far worse; completely unable to see that others life, experiences, motivation and circumstances may be different and yet equally valid compared to their own. I think this issue boils down to an inability to see the world from another's perspective, that those who hold different views are somehow a challenge to their "reality".

I have the impression (though it has not been articulated directly) that much of the contempt for the self-diagnosed is due to the incorrect assumption that those guilty of this grievous offence are somehow anti science, because the act of self-diagnosis has been painted as something akin to faith or spirituality. I'm normally firmly behind the scientific method and generally defer to the experts in their respective fields, but this isn't remotely like measuring bilirubin or white cell counts in your blood. There is nothing scientific about some of these apparent experts declaring that as far as they are concerned feelings for other human beings and aspergers are mutually exclusive. If they can get such basics wrong then wonders how often they ever get anything right.

I was self diagnosed for a period of time then I went and got it confirmed. It was very hard though a DX can be expensive and sometimes you get put on long waiting lists. Some people might not want a DX because of discrimination in their career choice. Sometimes a DX can be more harmful than good in general. I was warned about that before I got mine, I pursed it anyway because the discrimination without one was worse. I don't plan on having a high stress career that I can get fired from over a DX. I'd rather claim I have a disability and live with that fallout over having people tell me I'm lazy, stupid, or a poser. I completely respect people who don't have a DX. Sometimes people who don't actually have it a lot harder than people who do, or got it in childhood. Not having access to help and resources I tried to commit suicide several times before getting a DX, and some actual help. If there is help/support to be obtained here for people without a DX then I welcome them. I don't understand why other people don't. My advice to self DX posters is to ignore discriminative posts. I think it's only a small amount of posters who are doing it anyway.

I find this argument on therapy and help kinda hysterical.

My little brother has high functioning autism, and besides a special class he takes at a school that is more accepting of kids with autism, he never had any Therapy or medication. In fact, the only thing he seems to have a issue with is listening to people and doing what he is told. He gets very high grades in school, and besides that fact that like me, he has no friends to hang out with after school, and neither of us minds it, he does not really have many difficulties. He does not even take the class anymore I don't think, and starting next year, he will be in a different school, middle school, just a normal middle school.

But he is still Obviously autistic, and no one would claim he is not (even though for awhile I thought he just had ADHD). But because my little brother does not seem to need medication or therapy, does that make him falsely diagnosed? Or does that just mean he does not need medication or therapy?

It's like saying someone is not really depressed if they refuse to take anti-depressants or talk to a therapist, or they don't need to... or saying they are not really transsexual if they cant afford to get diagnosed with Gender identity Disorder...

Hi, I would just like to ask that those who don't want me here let me know who you are. You can PM me. I don't want to accidentally post on a thread where I am not wanted. Thank You.