Why would someone pretend to have aspergers?

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19 Jan 2012, 4:34 pm

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Attention? To make fun of it? for sympathy?

I can never comprehend this. You cannot benefit from having a diagnosis of "aspergers" unless you are really out there. I would not be able to benefit from it at all, and neither will most aspies. Besides the peace of mind you may receive for actually knowing what is wrong with you.

I don't understand it for sympathy either. If I were trying to gain sympathy for something, I would choose cancer, or the like. not aspergers, which is a disorder, but not one that prevents one from living the life they desire.

Then I hear of people who say they have it for money. as if they will get disability if they had it... NOT! At least not in america.

I just don't understand why people would pretend to be this way...

Do you know of anyone who does?


No, but I do know a few people who accused me of faking it...


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19 Jan 2012, 4:58 pm

Maybe some people have a reason to accuse others of faking ASD, but a lot of times people have misconceptions as to what it means. I don't know which is the case with you.


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19 Jan 2012, 5:08 pm

I don't know why anyone would deliberately pretend to have ASD while knowing that they don't have ASD. What benefits could they possibly get from this? No official diagnosis = No official benefits. Telling others that they have ASD for attention or excuse to act a certain way = Being told by others that they don't have ASD and to stop being a hypochondriac and grow up. It's not like there is a lot of sympathy given to autistic people for being autistic. It's more like there is either stigma or an expectation that you had better learn to become as unautistic as possible.



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19 Jan 2012, 5:23 pm

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Maybe some people have a reason to accuse others of faking ASD, but a lot of times people have misconceptions as to what it means. I don't know which is the case with you.


They tell me I don't "act aspie enough" to be one. as if I am supposed to have a speaking impairment and rock back and forth to be a aspie...


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19 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

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I don't know why anyone would deliberately pretend to have ASD while knowing that they don't have ASD. What benefits could they possibly get from this? No official diagnosis = No official benefits. Telling others that they have ASD for attention or excuse to act a certain way = Being told by others that they don't have ASD and to stop being a hypochondriac and grow up. It's not like there is a lot of sympathy given to autistic people for being autistic. It's more like there is either stigma or an expectation that you had better learn to become as unautistic as possible.


I have been accused of being a hypochondriac because my mother is one.

agree, there is probably less sympathy given to someone with ASD for being ASD as there is sympathy for Bisexuals for being Bisexual.


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19 Jan 2012, 5:47 pm

It's someone who wants to be rude and evil and not get in trouble for it. Like a "get out of jail free card", or something along those lines. That's probably so many murderers/rapists/child abusers are said to have "Asperger's" in news articles.


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19 Jan 2012, 5:51 pm

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It's someone who wants to be rude and evil and not get in trouble for it. Like a "get out of jail free card", or something along those lines. That's probably so many murderers/rapists/child abusers are said to have "Asperger's" in news articles.


Yes because having AS actually excuses people from responsibility when it comes to murder, rape and child abuse....that's a load of crap I just don't buy. Is it the people writing these articles who are ignorant enough to make these assumptions...........or do the people commuting these crimes actually claiming to have AS even though it would NOT get them off on insanity. Not to mention getting off due to insanity is not 'getting off' its being forced to go to a most likely hellish mental institution.

That said I think they really need to re-evaluate how they treat the individuals who do in fact get off for insanity......it should be about helping them recover and figuring out what's really wrong not to provide a place where sick minded individuals can torture the 'criminally' insane.


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19 Jan 2012, 6:34 pm

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It's someone who wants to be rude and evil and not get in trouble for it. Like a "get out of jail free card", or something along those lines. That's probably so many murderers/rapists/child abusers are said to have "Asperger's" in news articles.


Yes because having AS actually excuses people from responsibility when it comes to murder, rape and child abuse....that's a load of crap I just don't buy. Is it the people writing these articles who are ignorant enough to make these assumptions...........or do the people commuting these crimes actually claiming to have AS even though it would NOT get them off on insanity. Not to mention getting off due to insanity is not 'getting off' its being forced to go to a most likely hellish mental institution.

That said I think they really need to re-evaluate how they treat the individuals who do in fact get off for insanity......it should be about helping them recover and figuring out what's really wrong not to provide a place where sick minded individuals can torture the 'criminally' insane.

I hope they won't start making a law that Aspies have to go to mental institutions out of reading these news reports about these psychos. I'm not violent, but since there's a stereotype for shy quiet people secretly being awful people/crazy, I'd be thrown in there really fast. I can't help it I can't think of anything to say sometimes!


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19 Jan 2012, 6:36 pm

Not likely, seeing as 'Asperger' is going to get cancelled. :roll:


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19 Jan 2012, 6:40 pm

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Not likely, seeing as 'Asperger' is going to get cancelled. :roll:

Yeah and then I'll seem more Autistic than I really am to everyone who reads my diagnosis ~sighs~ By the way, will I have to be re-diagnosed when that happens? Or will it just change on it's own?


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19 Jan 2012, 6:42 pm

No idea, I somewhat hope for a public outrage to stop the change.


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19 Jan 2012, 6:44 pm

theaspiemusician wrote:
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It's someone who wants to be rude and evil and not get in trouble for it. Like a "get out of jail free card", or something along those lines. That's probably so many murderers/rapists/child abusers are said to have "Asperger's" in news articles.


Yes because having AS actually excuses people from responsibility when it comes to murder, rape and child abuse....that's a load of crap I just don't buy. Is it the people writing these articles who are ignorant enough to make these assumptions...........or do the people commuting these crimes actually claiming to have AS even though it would NOT get them off on insanity. Not to mention getting off due to insanity is not 'getting off' its being forced to go to a most likely hellish mental institution.

That said I think they really need to re-evaluate how they treat the individuals who do in fact get off for insanity......it should be about helping them recover and figuring out what's really wrong not to provide a place where sick minded individuals can torture the 'criminally' insane.

I hope they won't start making a law that Aspies have to go to mental institutions out of reading these news reports about these psychos. I'm not violent, but since there's a stereotype for shy quiet people secretly being awful people/crazy, I'd be thrown in there really fast. I can't help it I can't think of anything to say sometimes!


I doubt that will happen.......on what basis would they argue anyone with AS has to go to a mental institution?


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19 Jan 2012, 6:45 pm

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Not likely, seeing as 'Asperger' is going to get cancelled. :roll:

Yeah and then I'll seem more Autistic than I really am to everyone who reads my diagnosis ~sighs~ By the way, will I have to be re-diagnosed when that happens? Or will it just change on it's own?


You'll just be on the autism spectrum and it won't be labeled Aspergers Syndrome...


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19 Jan 2012, 6:45 pm

I can't wait for the DSM-V to be implemented. Then, Asperger's will go back to being what it has always been - Autism.



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19 Jan 2012, 6:47 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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It's someone who wants to be rude and evil and not get in trouble for it. Like a "get out of jail free card", or something along those lines. That's probably so many murderers/rapists/child abusers are said to have "Asperger's" in news articles.


Yes because having AS actually excuses people from responsibility when it comes to murder, rape and child abuse....that's a load of crap I just don't buy. Is it the people writing these articles who are ignorant enough to make these assumptions...........or do the people commuting these crimes actually claiming to have AS even though it would NOT get them off on insanity. Not to mention getting off due to insanity is not 'getting off' its being forced to go to a most likely hellish mental institution.

That said I think they really need to re-evaluate how they treat the individuals who do in fact get off for insanity......it should be about helping them recover and figuring out what's really wrong not to provide a place where sick minded individuals can torture the 'criminally' insane.

I hope they won't start making a law that Aspies have to go to mental institutions out of reading these news reports about these psychos. I'm not violent, but since there's a stereotype for shy quiet people secretly being awful people/crazy, I'd be thrown in there really fast. I can't help it I can't think of anything to say sometimes!



I doubt that will happen.......on what basis would they argue anyone with AS has to go to a mental institution?

Any of the "geniuses" who thought SOPA was a good idea, perhaps? Who's to say the people in the government don't decide something this bad if SOPA was even considered? (I know meantioning SOPA has nothing to do with this, but it DOES have similar "logic")


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19 Jan 2012, 8:01 pm

Nope. I sort of had "Med Student Disease" in College, working on my Psych Major. Asperger's wasn't an officially listed condition back then. We had the DSM III in the early 80s. I never had an official Dx, just suspcions. Autism was the elephant in the room, NEVER TO BE DISCUSSED at home.
I only recently got the Asperger's criteria.
I was the Poster Child for this. <SIGH>
And btw, I still have to tie my shoelaces in a squareknot. Very embarassing, as I have a respectable IQ. Just cannot get the slipknot. I have some eye/motor issues...
Also, sucked at sports, except Track & Field, where I could do pretty well. Became a distance/cross country/road racer runner in my college years (but Spondylothesis ended that. Crap!! ! Better than stimming for me, plus the girl I loved at the time was heavily into it..)
Also, like I said before, there were threats of being sent "Away" from the parents in my childhood. Obviously, things needed some help, but nothing really existed then.

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So I have to say HFA now??