why are they so many AS fakers?
I had no idea what Aspergers was, except funny sounding, leading to my often times offputting "aspizza" joke (I'm sorry).
Was fortunate enough to stumble upon an article (about the Japanese diet, no less!) where Asperger's was brought up in the comments. Mentioned it to some of my closest friends and an ex, and one of them told me she recently came to the same conclusion about herself. Really knocked it out of the park, since she and I think with the same very... inappropriate and cumbersome brain.
I really hope you get to meet some more Aspies. It's really great.
Hence why I'm here. I'd like to find more. I know that's weird sounding but whatever, I'm in the home of weird-dialog and I'm running with it... and scissors.
I was not aware that there were large numbers of nt's who faked being aspie.
Where did you get this piece of news from?
In fact I was not aware that many nt's were even aware of aspergers.
No one said NT fake being aspire. They are normal for a reason and like Bing normal otherwise they wouldn't be normal. What normal person wants to be awkward? Doesn't work like that. Obviously someone who is fat and ugly or something similar and is able to communicate but being aspie gives em an excuse as to why they don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend or for whatever reason they have. I am sorry but people with jobs, friends, significant others clearly do not have a communication problem in my eyes.
They couldn't relate to me not one bit! What I would give to have someone to call, or text. Someone to hug, hold or kiss. A job so I don't have to rely on a government ssi check every month or my grand father to give me a place to live.
I feel insulted and angry when I see people on here say they work and have girl friends and friends. Like your communication issue can't be that's bad!
Exactly!
So what is the use fo the diagnosis if it covers such a wide and differing range of people?
It basically means people with Aspergers are often expected to be like and achieve at the same level as the most adept, which is completely unrealistic
I don't think there are a lot of fakers, but those who do may either be hypochondriacs or people who fall someplace they feel is less desirable on the spectrum and they don't want to openly admit it. I have a few bipolar people in my family who probably fall into this category, there's some symptom overlapping and that's what they'd rather be so that's what they're more likely to tell people they are. I imagine the same is true of a handful of other diagnoses. It could also be some people associate Asperger's with genius and think if they identify as Aspie others will perceive them as gifted.
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If your neurology means your general body, movements, facial expressions and vocal responses are slower and non-standard, how exactly are you meant to cover that up??
This is how I determine the autism levels - I call it level of 'spacciness' (not very PC I know)
and many who say they have Aspergers don't seem to have any spacciness at all - hence they will be able to pass as NT fine
If you've got the spacciness though you are f-ked as far as faking anything goes
I do have extream delays when dealing with unantisipated questions as for comon ones I reply automaticaly with rehersed responces. I.E. How are you, just fine and I do this with out thaught what so ever even to the point that if asked after cuting off a limb the answer would be just fine.
Odd movement I take tie quan do to help with the clumsy apereance. Also when im out in a common area I reduce the amount of time there.
Facial expressions I greet my coworkers politely with a smile in the morning. The rest of the time they think I am pissed. I smile at jokes even if I dont think there funny.
Trust me the hardest is hiding melt downs.
This is what I do every day and a hundred million other thing to seem normal.
And I still seem odd or excentric to them, If you realy want to try to act nt Ill go threw it all with you but Its not worth it!! !
No it's ok I don't want to act like them; I hate most of them!
You asked how I answerd nothing more.
I had no idea what Aspergers was, except funny sounding, leading to my often times offputting "aspizza" joke (I'm sorry).
Was fortunate enough to stumble upon an article (about the Japanese diet, no less!) where Asperger's was brought up in the comments. Mentioned it to some of my closest friends and an ex, and one of them told me she recently came to the same conclusion about herself. Really knocked it out of the park, since she and I think with the same very... inappropriate and cumbersome brain.
I really hope you get to meet some more Aspies. It's really great.
Hence why I'm here. I'd like to find more. I know that's weird sounding but whatever, I'm in the home of weird-dialog and I'm running with it... and scissors.
I have met a few people I suspect might have it, but it's kind of an odd thing to inquire about.
People do fake having ASD. You must be the idiot if you do not see this as well.
It irks me that people come one here and claim to have it but at the same time they have friends and significant others and jobs. The complete opposite of what aspergers actually is. Then you have your self diagnosers and people who think they have it and people who diagnose other people. The original poster is right, people here fake having it!
On top of it, the dsm lowered the standards so anyone can claim to have ASD.
Well I'm sure people would TRY to fake AS, but making it sound like it's half the population of an online forum is kind of funny. If anyone's faking it, first of all, they have to be a genius to pull it off correctly. There are too many aspects of Asperger's to cover. Like someone else said, they should just pick something simpler - something that isn't a 7-in-one bundle package. Secondly, if they're faking it, it's for the SSI, and they have absolutely NO NEED to come here and post. If they are, it's in the hopes of studying, but that's impossible to do in a forum! I can be coherent, and I can piece a sentence together... but GOOD LUCK picking up on all the crazy I spill in person by coming here and trying to READ about it. I'm in my 30's and I STILL haven't figured them all out - and I'm the subject matter!
And don't call people idiots for not agreeing with you. It's mean. And idiotic.
Uh yeah... I don't see any reason why somebody would fake AS and if they did, they would make it blatantly obvious.
The only people who would fake AS are trolls who are out to make fun of those who suffer the disorder and the point of trolling is pissing people off so they need to make it obvious.
I was not aware that there were large numbers of nt's who faked being aspie.
Where did you get this piece of news from?
In fact I was not aware that many nt's were even aware of aspergers.
No one said NT fake being aspire. They are normal for a reason and like Bing normal otherwise they wouldn't be normal. What normal person wants to be awkward? Doesn't work like that. Obviously someone who is fat and ugly or something similar and is able to communicate but being aspie gives em an excuse as to why they don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend or for whatever reason they have. I am sorry but people with jobs, friends, significant others clearly do not have a communication problem in my eyes.
They couldn't relate to me not one bit! What I would give to have someone to call, or text. Someone to hug, hold or kiss. A job so I don't have to rely on a government ssi check every month or my grand father to give me a place to live.
I feel insulted and angry when I see people on here say they work and have girl friends and friends. Like your communication issue can't be that's bad!
Exactly!
So what is the use fo the diagnosis if it covers such a wide and differing range of people?
It basically means people with Aspergers are often expected to be like and achieve at the same level as the most adept, which is completely unrealistic
I spent the last 10 years getting half-ass non-diagnosed (doctor just says "I THINK you have...") with a bunch of junk. Bi-polar (took pills for that), depressed, anxiety (took pills again) so the logical conclusion was Asperger's. But it was based on more than that of course. No eye contact whatsoever, can't keep a job, can't keep a relationship alive, social anxiety to the point where I once balled up on the floor of a D.C. subway and cried until it was over YEEEAAAAAH...
And then I had a bi-polar roommate once. Who was a flippin' dolt. And I see absolutely no resemblance between the two of us, if his bi-polar disorder was at all indicative of the mass of people suffering from BPD. So maybe I just want to say NO WAY because I'm smart and he was just... ugh. But I also think someone who's legit bi-polar couldn't fake AS if their life depended on it. Too many nuances to keep revolving in your head all at once to be a faker, and BPD already consumes them enough as it is. Just my opinion.
Hypochondriacs on the other hand... people needing attention, etc., personally I've spent a good deal of my time trying to make sure I'm not exaggerating - because I used to be such a prima donna - and now that I at least *think* I'm good about not doing it, I can't look back at who I was, or other attention grabbers I've known, and see them successfully pulling it off either. Usually people can smell the bullsh*t walking in from a mile away. Those people have REPS for it.
By the law of averages there have to be some fakers
Human beings tend to lie a lot - it's a default setting for the majority!
so why are there so many aspies that fake being NT? they are fakers also, are they not?
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By the law of averages there have to be some fakers
Human beings tend to lie a lot - it's a default setting for the majority!
so why are there so many aspies that fake being NT? they are fakers also, are they not?
She does bring forth a very good point.
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I've never been a faker. Nobody has ever called me a faker. There are many things about myself that I don't fake. My AS is one of them. I think it's pretty clear that by my posting habits and the contents of my posts, that I don't fake AS. I'm too into my special interests to be faking AS. One thing that I like to do, is celebrate my AS and my differences.
Do I seem like an AS faker to anybody here?
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Do I seem like an AS faker to anybody here?
I wouldn't be able to tell you what an AS faker looked like.
Also, I think it shows that a lot of us are autistic, because our first responses seem to be self directed. The 'Who me? Nuhuh. I'm not' response.
I don't know, maybe that's just me.
I would like to say that if I had a pause button when anybody spoke to me I could give an accurate reply. In real life that does not happen. When we are online, we can stop and think about our reply. There is no need for body language etc and we have time to think about what we need to say, hence we all can seem NT when we write abstract comments online....just a thought.