Is there a way to make friends on wrong planet?

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26 Jul 2012, 2:31 pm

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When I mention here that communication between people on the spectrum can be just as difficult and faulty as between NTs and autistics I always get ignored or disagreed with.


Its difficult for a lot of members here to look at themselves in an honest manner

Your an engineer, Ojani? me too

Its funny, at the beach I make friends with strangers all the time.... back in the city and my home area - I dont even try[till lately]...

initially on WP I tried to make friends....... found the online friend experience disappointing [for me]and have now resigned myself to IRL only

recently I've been chatting up some strangers in the city.... and had some success regarding meaningful connections and shared moments

aspies need loving too!!

Hmm. I don't believe that an online relationship such as an internet friendship can reach the same intimacy level that an IRL friendship can. Experience has proved to me though that internet friendships do exist.

As for aspies (or autistics) needing love, I can speak only for myself, and I know for sure that I like to be loved. My trouble is that I tend to be in one-sided relationships where I'm on the receiving side. I honestly don't know how much of it is ASD related and how much is some kind of personality disorder, like borderline, narcissism, dependent pd, PTSD, whatever.

I can be a target for narcissistic (or similar) people, unfortunately, just like many ASD folks, as such people tend to be very nice and caring initially, but later becoming abusers who prey on (emotionally) weak and defenseless people like me.

Btw, I'm an economist. :wink:



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26 Jul 2012, 2:34 pm

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Yea ok, i admit i was childish in the previous post.

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26 Jul 2012, 2:35 pm

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Hmm. I don't believe that an online relationship such as an internet friendship can reach the same intimacy level that an IRL friendship can. Experience has proved to me though that internet friendships do exist.

As for aspies (or autistics) needing love, I can speak only for myself, and I know for sure that I like to be loved. My trouble is that I tend to be in one-sided relationships where I'm on the receiving side. I honestly don't know how much of it is ASD related and how much is some kind of personality disorder, like borderline, narcissism, dependent pd, PTSD, whatever.

I can be a target for narcissistic (or similar) people, unfortunately, just like many ASD folks, as such people tend to be very nice and caring initially, but later becoming abusers who prey on (emotionally) weak and defenseless people like me.

Btw, I'm an economist. :wink:
Why is that? Face to face conversations are possible (Skype)


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26 Jul 2012, 2:40 pm

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Hmm. I don't believe that an online relationship such as an internet friendship can reach the same intimacy level that an IRL friendship can. Experience has proved to me though that internet friendships do exist.

As for aspies (or autistics) needing love, I can speak only for myself, and I know for sure that I like to be loved. My trouble is that I tend to be in one-sided relationships where I'm on the receiving side. I honestly don't know how much of it is ASD related and how much is some kind of personality disorder, like borderline, narcissism, dependent pd, PTSD, whatever.

I can be a target for narcissistic (or similar) people, unfortunately, just like many ASD folks, as such people tend to be very nice and caring initially, but later becoming abusers who prey on (emotionally) weak and defenseless people like me.

Btw, I'm an economist. :wink:
Why is that? Face to face conversations are possible (Skype)

That I don't feel intimate enough, if it makes sense. I may be wrong, but I like doing activities with my friend(s), like listening to music playing on a stereo system, doing hiking, cycling etc.



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26 Jul 2012, 4:49 pm

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I have PM'd users here who don't even bother to reply.

More often than not they reply. However, mostly they were females who didn't even bother to send one single reply as an acknowledgment. Males at least kept up corresponding for a while. There are nice exceptions, though. :)


Is it because these women have major tickets on themselves ? It seems their a few who are that way around here ?

What ever.


It couldn't be because they have a communication disorder, could it?
Of course not. Communication problems on an ASD site? That's just stupid.


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26 Jul 2012, 4:54 pm

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Hmm. I don't believe that an online relationship such as an internet friendship can reach the same intimacy level that an IRL friendship can. Experience has proved to me though that internet friendships do exist.

As for aspies (or autistics) needing love, I can speak only for myself, and I know for sure that I like to be loved. My trouble is that I tend to be in one-sided relationships where I'm on the receiving side. I honestly don't know how much of it is ASD related and how much is some kind of personality disorder, like borderline, narcissism, dependent pd, PTSD, whatever.

I can be a target for narcissistic (or similar) people, unfortunately, just like many ASD folks, as such people tend to be very nice and caring initially, but later becoming abusers who prey on (emotionally) weak and defenseless people like me.

Btw, I'm an economist. :wink:
Why is that? Face to face conversations are possible (Skype)

That I don't feel intimate enough, if it makes sense. I may be wrong, but I like doing activities with my friend(s), like listening to music playing on a stereo system, doing hiking, cycling etc.
Ehh I disagree about that friendships or relationships can't be as close if they are just over the internet, but I understand what you are saying.


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26 Jul 2012, 5:54 pm

[sore body bits after trying to hump the computer]

IRL invisible energies move between different parties. On line its harder to FEEL another persons certain qualities

And others including various agencies and hackers watch everything you say and do to-gether



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26 Jul 2012, 6:05 pm

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Of course not. Communication problems on an ASD site? That's just stupid.


Someone else gets it.



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26 Jul 2012, 7:09 pm

It's not impossible to make friends, just that much harder. Regardless, in a friendship, you need to consider your own emotions and the other person's emotions and interests. Also, if there's something you want more in the friendship than just friendship, you must make that very clear at the beginning. If the other person you're friends with is an aspie, you can't expect them to know if you want to fall in love with them. Also keep in mind that two people decide whether they want a friendship or fall in love, not one.



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26 Jul 2012, 9:15 pm

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It's not impossible to make friends, just that much harder. Regardless, in a friendship, you need to consider your own emotions and the other person's emotions and interests. Also, if there's something you want more in the friendship than just friendship, you must make that very clear at the beginning. If the other person you're friends with is an aspie, you can't expect them to know if you want to fall in love with them. Also keep in mind that two people decide whether they want a friendship or fall in love, not one.
there are many topics on how the last part part you said is untrue. Many times people go from friends to more than friends.


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26 Jul 2012, 10:14 pm

Good point Delphiki! I was affected by my own personal experiences and probability making that overgeneralization! Took me a bit to figure out what you were really getting it. Sure, the status of a relationship may always be subject to change for better or for worse depending on the context of the situation. If you've seen MTV's "Friend Zone" it's a good visual of why it's probably a good idea to profess love for another near the beginning because otherwise the other person may always want to see you as that friend. So I was thinking that.

Personally, I was in a somewhat similar situation where a friend wanted more than that, but then the friendship has to dissolve because from my point of view, there was (and apparently still) so much raging anger and misunderstanding on the other person's part of the situation.

Gosh I hate to bring that back up, but I felt it was appropriate for this topic.



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26 Jul 2012, 10:18 pm

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Good point Delphiki! I was affected by my own personal experiences and probability making that overgeneralization! Took me a bit to figure out what you were really getting it. Sure, the status of a relationship may always be subject to change for better or for worse depending on the context of the situation. If you've seen MTV's "Friend Zone" it's a good visual of why it's probably a good idea to profess love for another near the beginning because otherwise the other person may always want to see you as that friend. So I was thinking that.

Personally, I was in a somewhat similar situation where a friend wanted more than that, but then the friendship has to dissolve because from my point of view, there was (and apparently still) so much raging anger and misunderstanding on the other person's part of the situation.

Gosh I hate to bring that back up, but I felt it was appropriate for this topic.
Ahh okay that makes sense. Why were you over generalizing???
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I am trying to not watch too much tv, so I mainly just watch a couple shows that are really good, I don't reality tv or watch MTV. Seeing as how it is literally non stop commericials I don't care to fill my head with that.


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27 Jul 2012, 6:59 am

I did not purposely overgeneralize. It can be easy to miss details Delphiki, especially when you have no one checking over your work before you post. These posts are not meant to be mini-research paragraphs necessarily.



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I did not purposely overgeneralize. It can be easy to miss details Delphiki, especially when you have no one checking over your work before you post. These posts are not meant to be mini-research paragraphs necessarily.
I know, I was hoping the winky face would show I was joking.


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03 Aug 2012, 8:09 am

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I have PM'd users here who don't even bother to reply.

More often than not they reply. However, mostly they were females who didn't even bother to send one single reply as an acknowledgment. Males at least kept up corresponding for a while. There are nice exceptions, though. :)


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03 Aug 2012, 9:12 am

I seem to make more enemies than friends, but I've got a strange feeling I'm doing something all wrong....