aspie and high IQ
When I was diagnosed with AS, the doctor gave me my IQ score and it seems like it was around 110. She also diagnosed me with ADD and Social anxiety (hmm, go figure) and that's probably what attributed to the low score but I was still in the average range. She believed if I wouldn't have felt pressured I would have gotten a much higher score. There were a lot of questions and parts of the test I was just like "I don't know", "I don't know".
One part of the test was on a computer and she said it determines how much I think like a computer and it would take me about 20 minutes to complete or longer. I finished it in 5 minutes with a 97%. She couldn't believe it but after she got the AS dx, that explained it.
I have an IQ of 132 and although I love logic and certain aspects of math such as algebra, I am not exceptionally good at it and in fact despise most math. In fact I suspect the only reason I enjoy algebra and find it relatively easy is because of the substitution of letters for numbers. I have an affinity with letters and language, but numbers confound me. I cannot remember my own phone number most of the time.
144 here, and I'm not very good at math... except geometry. You know those puzzle problems on the IQ test where you choose the next shape in the sequence?
I rock at those.
And the language questions.
The only times I got good grades in mathematics at school were:
- When we used PCs for one semester of algebra in grade 10
- When we did grade 12 geometry and some trigonometry
Well, I'm sure you could give bogus answers in an IQ test and come out with the score of a ret*d, but my understnading is, you can't be ret*d and have AS at the same time. Although, IQ tests are more based off what you've learned as apposed to how much brain capacity you actually have.
my IQs from results have been between 138 and 146, which is fairly high i think.
i excel at the puzzle solving equations, im not sure how my brain works them out in such a fast way, but it works. there will always be a small area on any IQ test that i havent the slightest clue about too, which is always funny: )
My IQ has scored at 144 more than once. However, I've been tested multiple times. I once got a 128 and once got a 160.
In terms of standardized testing...
I usually score fairly average mathematical scores. My SAT Math was a 550.
However, I have yet to score any lower than the top on any major, standardized verbal aptitude test. 800 SAT verbal. 99th percentile in almost all verbal criteria on both the state high school graduation exam and the test offered when I was around 12. (I allegedly had a PhD level vocabulary/reading level fairly early; I remember in the 7th grade receiving results that said I was on an "19th Grade" reading level.)
As of now, I'm self-diagnosed for AS. However, I do have a fairly solid diagnostic history, I think.
I was -- affectionately -- dubbed "The Little Professor" by three teachers in different school systems and "The Junior Professor" by a college professor. I'm 26 and never had a relationship. I have fields of research I'm interested in. I do over half of the known stimming rituals. There are certain noises that set me off. I don't make eye contact without conscious effort applied to doing so. I have shadowing of AS like traits on both sides of my family. I'm APPARENTLY didactic by some people's standards.
Every screener puts me at around 75% AS. The idea was first broached when my parents became aware of AS and ran several screeners with me -- without telling me anything about AS.
However... as far as IQ tests go, I have yet to find one that I do not feel is flawed. Particularly in areas like pattern recognition, I can often spot multiple correct answers. Unless they're weighting for the multiple correct answers based on level of complexity or level of eloquence, the tests are flawed. Additionally, sometimes word patterns and analogies ignore potentially "more correct" answers.
I'm always torn between the answer I believe is expected of me and the answer I believe to be more correct. I sometimes have agonized over whether the people composing the test saw the deeper pattern/implication/meaning that I see or if they simply want me to apply Occam's Razor... And if so, whether that makes the test biased.
I feel that to genuinely experience an IQ test, there should be a feedback session which examines the reasoning process of the participants. I have a feeling that atypical thinkers (which may include many high-IQ individuals) may out think the tests or perceive the tests from atypical perspectives.
If you scored over 100, I wouldn't be concerned. My father has an IQ of 115 and it embarrasses him -- And I don't feel it should. He's exceptionally savvy at business and baking and inventory management and negotiating deals rationally. He saved and sold my grandparents business, enabling them to retire. He advised them on an investment that turned over 6 times. He used to statistically predict the top 10 billboard song charts when he was younger. I don't think an IQ of 115 is anything to ashamed of in his case but I think it bothers him because it's one of the lowest out of any of my blood relatives. Almost everyone else was a Valedictorian.
Most of my grandparents were high school dropouts but they were still very literate people for their time and place. My paternal grandfather always felt inferior for having dropped out to support his family -- but the man knew his crossword puzzles and he could give you a synopsis of ANY movie pre-1970 you could think of and quite a few post-1970. He knew boxing statistics and fighters. He worked with machines in a factory and I respect that.
I guess what I'm saying is... Don't let yourself be defined by a number or a letter grade. AS -- in particular -- can let you excel in areas of interest in ways other people can't. And you don't need a genius IQ to be a person of greatness; you just need dedication. AS can supply that dedication if you're able to cope with NT people and an NT world.
Celebrate your AS. If you feel the diagnosis is wrong, question it. However, an IQ score isn't part of any diagnostic criteria I've seen.
In fact, I'd say social anxiety, poor short-term memory and high IQs are all things which -- in my very limited experience -- are co-morbid conditions with AS but have nothing to do, necessarily, with BEING AS.
I have an IQ of 145, I know my sons is 143 and my husbands is 142. (all aspies)
I am terrible at math, they are fantastic at it. (My son was doing algebra in his head at 5 years old… I still can’t do it on paper for the most part, my husband won all these math awards when we were in high school, I passed with the help of tutors.)
Don’t feel bad, not all aspies are good at the same things, just like not all of them are geniuses. (that is a common misconception I have found though)
I’m sure there are plenty of things you have strengths in, so just be happy that you can get by with a calculator and don’t let it bug you too much.
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I hate hearing, "you don't seem autistic/aspie". I have a nagging suspicion most people have no idea what autistic or aspie "seem" like in the first place...
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