Why do people with aspergers like psychopaths?

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I'm interested in psychopathy/sociopathy as it's interesting

I don't relate well to society so I'm interested in people who live completely outside society's rules or who are able to fool people

I have known/know people who might be narcissist or part-sociopathic and I think a bond can form between people with Aspergers and people with these conditions as Aspergers seems to be a harmless form of the lack of empathy thing and we are often outsiders too

There's some kind of crossover whereby the conditions aren't the same but there are similarities which give you things in common
it's hard to define

I find these people are often more interesting than NTs or other aspies but obviously not trustworthy/not good people

life gets dull with just 'good' people though

I do feel sorry for them, they are kinda ill.

I don't see how they really help the mentally ill though.

I have a bit of an obsession with serial killers, and psychology in general. The mind is a fascinating thing, and what causes certain things to happen. My mom's side of the family is rich with mental issues. My uncle is a classic example of antisocial personality disorder (sociopath), my aunt is schizophrenic, my grandpa was an aspie, we have no real idea what my grandma was (hypochondriac, pathological liar?) and my mom is probably an aspie, my brother's an aspie, I'm probably an aspie who has psychopathic obsessive intrusive thoughts... I've had a lot of dealings with all sorts of types of people and I've been hurt by every single type of person. Sociopaths and Psychopaths are more likely to cause harm, but everyone causes harm. Just because someone is more likely to cause it isn't a reason to hate them. I don't hate one specific group, I hate individuals.
I don't understand all the talk about "psychopaths are evil." because that's just plain not true. If all psychopaths are evil, then everyone is evil. If a specific psychopath has caused problems, then that specific psychopath must pay the price of the crime. Did you know that illiterate people are more likely to commit crimes? Should we lock people who can't read up, just because they're more likely to cause problems? No one should be discriminated against without cause. Saying you hate all psychopaths just because they're psychopaths seems to me to be the same as saying you hate people on the spectrum because they're on the spectrum. Unjustifiable prejudice and discrimination. I won't justify anyone's hurtful behaviour.

I think aspies consider psychopaths to be their heroes.somewhere down the line all aspies wish they were like psychopaths so they think by forming a bond with them they will feel protected and psychopaths can teach them a lot how to function properly.
All aspies envy they charm,bullet proof self confidence,determination in the face of adversity,mental toughness of the psychopaths which they lack the most.thus they think by bonding with psychopaths,they can also learn to survive without hiding.they get overwlhmed by the fact how psychopaths each and everytime get themselves out of trouble so easily which they can never do themselves.psychopaths are so likeable that people are ready to follow them

In response to the original poster: your total count is two people with AS who defend sociopaths, and so you conclude that all people with AS are fascinated with sociopathy and want to defend it?

You need to expand your sample. And you need to expand it in a way that prevents self-selection. The way you phrase your question and your posting it on this forum are conducive to self-selection as well.

I think the reason people on this post don't like sociopaths is because they think all of them are serial killers and they purposely cause harm.but that is not the truth.sociopaths no matter what always seek the reward and they have to succed everytime by which sometimes harm is caused.infraction I thinkpsychopaths are the real men of the society and like it or not they are the leaders of the future.so I think this is the reason NTs are jealous of them but the aspies love them as though both have lack of empathy in common but psychopaths are the successful ones.

I was lately labeled as psychopath, but I have no idea how that happend. Anyhow I am more likely to be autist. Thought I do not have any back up for one claim or the other. Just internal feelings, but I guess that is far from being a diagnosis criterion.

I think the main reason I was labeled as psychopath is my inability to understand motives of other people, not to mention that most of my behavior was somehow linked in odd way to psychopathy. Can not get it.

Over all I do not care dough. I do not think I am harmful at all. Which is kind of wierd.

This is a poem about moths.But it is also a poem about psychopaths.

i was talking to a moth
the other evening
he was trying to break into
an electric light bulb
and fry himself on the wires

why do you fellows
pull this stunt i asked him
because it is the conventional
thing for moths or why
if that had been an uncovered
candle instead of an electric
light bulb you would
now be a small unsightly cinder
have you no sense

plenty of it he answered
but at times we get tired
of using it
we get bored with the routine
and crave beauty
and excitement
fire is beautiful
and we know that if we get
too close it will kill us
but what does that matter
it is better to be happy
for a moment
and be burned up with beauty
than to live a long time
and be bored all the while
so we wad all our life up
into one little roll
and then we shoot the roll
that is what life is for
it is better to be a part of beauty
for one instant and then to cease to
exist than to exist forever
and never be a part of beauty
our attitude toward life
is to come easy go easy
we are like human beings
used to be before they became
too civilized to enjoy themselves

and before i could argue him
out of his philosophy
he went and immolated himself
on a patent cigar lighter
i do not agree with him
myself i would rather have
half the happiness and twice
the longevity

but at the same time i wish
there was something i wanted
as badly as he wanted to fry himself
by Don Marquis.

----taken from the book 'Wisdom of Psychopaths:What spies saints and serial killers can teach us about success' by Kevin Dutton.

Though women with aspergers are attracted to psychopathic males in the beginning due to their sexual magnetism, they are the biggest challenge for the psychopaths as they cannot be easily manipulated.Psychopaths often end up frustrated with these aspergers women because unlike NTs these women dont react to much which they psychopaths hate.They cannot have the fun they get out of harming NT women.Thus these relationships do not last long and the psychopaths try to free themselves from these women.

I am a diagnosed psychopath male.To all aspies i want to say why do you want to care about other people what they are doing and what they are thinking about you.Infact i purposely sometimes embaress myself in public and when other NTs laugh at me, i pity them because they all are losers.I am free in a way they can never be.They will always remain the common herd and the sheep who let others run their life from themselves.The reason psychopaths are so sucessful is that they don't give a s**t about what other people think about them.

I think aspies and psychopaths have been given a gift because we have complete control over our lives.We are the most free people on this planet!It is upto you how you utilise this gift.You can repent that you are different from those common losers or you can take advantage of the gift that you have got.

To all aspies i want to recommend the following books if you want to learn more about psychopaths:
1.Wisdom of psychopaths:What spies saints and serial killers can teach us about about sucess-Kevin Dutton
2.The psychopath bible:For the extreme individual-S.Hyatt. Beware! this book might change they way you think and you will understand what this world truly is and how it functions.You will come to know why those NTs will always remain the common herd and you will understand the value of the gift we both have got.

We all hear of self help and confidence building books in the market telling us we should not care what others are think about us and we should be always optimistic and live in the moment.all psychopaths and some aspies have an abundance of these traits.no matter how much the NTs try they can never have or develop these traits literally.moreover aspies and psychopaths have this sort of addictive personality that once we set focus on a task we go into terminator mode to complete it no matter what.many NTs envy this trait of ours.

Psychopaths are better than most NTs in putting themselves in others shoes. They have an abundance of cognitive empathy and thus they can exactly estimate what others are feeling. But they lack affective empathy and thus are not affected by others feelings. Aspies are just the opposite who have affective empathy but lack cognitive empathy. This is the reason psychopaths can manipulate so easily. I am saying all this as a diagnosed psychopath. Feel free to ask me any questions.

I think psychopaths are tragically limited. They are not able to feel true joy when someone else is happy; only when they themselves are happy. They experience pleasure from only one person. The whole world could turn into a utopia, and they would still only be happy if they themselves had what they wanted. They are disconnected in a much more fundamental way than autistic people will ever be--they are unable to find satisfaction in helping another person unless that act helps them as well. A psychopath has only one source of happiness--himself. I have seven billion of them. I may not be able to read people's faces and bodies, but not caring about them is totally foreign to me. A human being is a precious thing, and it saddens me that there are people who cannot experience that.