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02 Dec 2012, 2:00 pm

Whatever, I do not even have a diagnostic yet. And, as far as I know, Asperger's syndrome was always considered an autism spectrum disorder.

Plus, I will never hear the word "aspie" again. I hate that word. It sounds like something out of a Teletubbies episode.


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02 Dec 2012, 2:23 pm

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My personal feeling is that Aspergers is already stygmatised enough, and I think being simply labelled as Autistic will make it worse.
They might as well just say this![youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHxr2etrfKc[/youtube] Yeah the vid doesnt really make sense but for some reason I feel like playing old school video games!


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02 Dec 2012, 4:06 pm

I can't describe how glad I am that PDD-NOS is finally done away with. Really. So, as has been mentioned, it's only fair.


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02 Dec 2012, 4:43 pm

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Since most of us on the spectrum are PDD-NOS, it's only fair ...

Besides, we won't have to worry about our disability being cheapened by idiot NT's with bad social skills who think it's trendy to claim they have Asperger Syndrome to excuse their laziness...

I think it's much better to be able to say "I have mild autism" or "high-functioning autism" rather than "I have [trendy nerd syndrome in tons of TV programs]"


I agree with you on this. I am ambivalent about dropping the name from the DSM, but I do like how people can't say they have it unless they really do have it. It's not too trendy to claim, "Hey, I'm autistic." For some reason, though, it seems there are people who like to say they have Asperger's when they might not even know what that means.

The part of me that doens't like the specific dx being removed is the part of me that appreciates how complex and peculiar Asperger's is in and of itself.



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02 Dec 2012, 4:49 pm

I have to say, I really do think everyone on the spectrum has their own very specific set of traits. I like the word ''Aspergers'' and find it useful, for example to talk about ''being an Aspie'' on here and suchlike, but I don't agree with it as a fixed diagnosis at all.


I think it is a vast spectrum and all people who have a full blown spectrum condition (e.g. a great enough number ''traits'' to class as a disorder) are all different anyway.

I have elaborated on this in another thread where someone was asking ''High functioning autism or Aspergers''??

Just a personal take, based on spectrum people I have met and personal experiences.

But having said that, I do understand why people are annoyed about this. It muddles things up


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02 Dec 2012, 4:51 pm

I find it hard enough to tell people I have Aspergers, since people don't always understand. If I say I have Autism, people are going to think of the classic, lower functioning Autism, and either expect me to be like that, or not believe me because I'm not like that.


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02 Dec 2012, 4:51 pm

Magnus_Rex wrote:
Whatever, I do not even have a diagnostic yet. And, as far as I know, Asperger's syndrome was always considered an autism spectrum disorder.

Plus, I will never hear the word "aspie" again. I hate that word. It sounds like something out of a Teletubbies episode.



LOL!!


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02 Dec 2012, 4:55 pm

Alycat wrote:
I find it hard enough to tell people I have Aspergers, since people don't always understand. If I say I have Autism, people are going to think of the classic, lower functioning Autism, and either expect me to be like that, or not believe me because I'm not like that.


Well, no they won't, because now it's been changed in the DSM-V the onus is on health care professionals and us afflicted folk to make sure people understand ''Autism'' encompasses a universe of various symptomatology, and the stereotypical low functioning image associated with the word is not applicable to everyone on the spectrum at all.


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02 Dec 2012, 5:06 pm

Cuckooflower wrote:
Alycat wrote:
I find it hard enough to tell people I have Aspergers, since people don't always understand. If I say I have Autism, people are going to think of the classic, lower functioning Autism, and either expect me to be like that, or not believe me because I'm not like that.


Well, no they won't, because now it's been changed in the DSM-V the onus is on health care professionals and us afflicted folk to make sure people understand ''Autism'' encompasses a universe of various symptomatology, and the stereotypical low functioning image associated with the word is not applicable to everyone on the spectrum at all.



And everyone afflicted has been -so- successful at getting people to understand AS? :wink:

I am fairly certain trying to convince the general population that the spectrum encompasses a wide variety, is not going to happen in the near to mid-term future.

And its the general population which contribute to so many of AS folks feeling marginalized and all the other issues that we all face.



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02 Dec 2012, 5:42 pm

Alycat wrote:
I find it hard enough to tell people I have Aspergers, since people don't always understand. If I say I have Autism, people are going to think of the classic, lower functioning Autism, and either expect me to be like that, or not believe me because I'm not like that.

Assuming you live in Birmingham, England rather than, say, Birmingham, Alabama, then you don't need to worry- the DSM doesn't apply on this side of the pond.



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02 Dec 2012, 6:11 pm

I kinda feel bad about the change. I'm quite sure I meet the current criteria for Aspergers, but I'm not sure I meet the new ASD criteria. It has kinda made me question the use of getting an AS assessment.


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02 Dec 2012, 6:13 pm

Oh that's f*cking great! One month before my assessment! I'm never gonna reach the criteria for "classical" autism.



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02 Dec 2012, 6:52 pm

It's not like that. Classical autism is going to disappear, too. They'll be rolled into a single "autism spectrum disorder" diagnosis.

So referring to the change in criteria as "no more Asperger's" is like you're making a cake and claiming that this is the end of the milk, eggs, sugar, and flour.


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02 Dec 2012, 6:56 pm

Oh. It's still BS though.



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02 Dec 2012, 7:03 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
Alycat wrote:
My personal feeling is that Aspergers is already stygmatised enough, and I think being simply labelled as Autistic will make it worse.
They might as well just say this![youtube]mindscrewy video[/youtube] Yeah the vid doesnt really make sense but for some reason I feel like playing old school video games!


Thank you! That is the best song I have ever heard. Here is the full version, in case anybody is looking for it:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsN14TFy90[/youtube]
It is from an 80s game called Monty on the Run, in case nobody guessed it from the blatantly obvious game cover on the video.


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02 Dec 2012, 7:03 pm

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Man, what a DIS-SERVICE to all of us diagnosed....now we are just all "Autistic" and/or have DMDD.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/ ... l-17856914

Some Moron just waved a wand & POOF we are all different...of course, the DSM re-write isn't out until May of next year.


In all honesty there's no difference between there being a sub-label for AS within the spectrum.

Whenever a bureaucrat looks at your paperwork all they see is 'autism' label and thats it.

Insurance, government, employers... that is all they see. That is why I decided never to get an official diagnosis. Closes too many doors because of a silly label.