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26 Dec 2012, 1:16 pm

I am amazed how some people here can seem to tell the difference in his body language and I can't. I wouldn't be able to tell if someone's eye contact is normal or not or hand gestures or facial expressions unless it was that obvious but if it's just minor deficits, I wouldn't be able to tell.

The one with Daryl Hannah, she came off as shy and nervous. I don't know if she really was or if she was using the wrong body language. If I didn't know about her having autism, I would have thought she was shy and nervous about being on the show in the spot light.


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26 Dec 2012, 4:20 pm

All of the people who are judging him and saying he is bad for only talking about his special interests are being unfair. You can't judge someone from watching a few videos about them on the internet. Not only that but the venues in which he is usually videoed are either scripted or they are on shows discussing his savantism. The only other area he is videoed is at presentations where he obviously is going to discuss his talents because thats the only reason people come to see him.

If he didnt talk about his talents why would people come to see some autistic guy with glasses and a weird articulation of the word ''sav-ant''


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26 Dec 2012, 4:23 pm

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All of the people who are judging him and saying he is bad for only talking about his special interests are being unfair. You can't judge someone from watching a few videos about them on the internet. Not only that but the venues in which he is usually videoed are either scripted or they are on shows discussing his savantism. The only other area he is videoed is at presentations where he obviously is going to discuss his talents because thats the only reason people come to see him.

If he didnt talk about his talents why would people come to see some autistic guy with glasses and a weird articulation of the word ''sav-ant''



Didn't you ask us to judge him from one video in the first place?

And didn't you say in your first post "He looks pretty normal to me"?



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26 Dec 2012, 4:38 pm

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wtfid2 wrote:
All of the people who are judging him and saying he is bad for only talking about his special interests are being unfair. You can't judge someone from watching a few videos about them on the internet. Not only that but the venues in which he is usually videoed are either scripted or they are on shows discussing his savantism. The only other area he is videoed is at presentations where he obviously is going to discuss his talents because thats the only reason people come to see him.

If he didnt talk about his talents why would people come to see some autistic guy with glasses and a weird articulation of the word ''sav-ant''



Didn't you ask us to judge him from one video in the first place?

And didn't you say in your first post "He looks pretty normal to me"?
Well I was complimenting him, and was curious if anyone could see what elements of autism are present in him.....you guys are talking badly about him discussing his interest in interviews built around that premise.


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26 Dec 2012, 4:54 pm

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wtfid2 wrote:
All of the people who are judging him and saying he is bad for only talking about his special interests are being unfair. You can't judge someone from watching a few videos about them on the internet. Not only that but the venues in which he is usually videoed are either scripted or they are on shows discussing his savantism. The only other area he is videoed is at presentations where he obviously is going to discuss his talents because thats the only reason people come to see him.

If he didnt talk about his talents why would people come to see some autistic guy with glasses and a weird articulation of the word ''sav-ant''



Didn't you ask us to judge him from one video in the first place?

And didn't you say in your first post "He looks pretty normal to me"?
Well I was complimenting him, and was curious if anyone could see what elements of autism are present in him.....you guys are talking badly about him discussing his interest in interviews built around that premise.


I'd read some of his book and heard him talk on the radio before anyway so was aware of him
and so already had an opinion of him.

I think you have far more interest in trying to appear NT than me. I see trying to fool people into seeing me as NT as a 'betrayal' of my essential autistic nature. Whereas you seem to see it as a good thing to appear as NT as possible in order to fit in ie you want to hide your autism.
I pride myself on society not getting me to act as it wants me to act - that is far more of a challenge than conforming to NT behaviour in my opinion. I am who I am - why shouldn't I just be able to be me? That's my take on things anyway.

I pride myself on not being NT, hence a person who does a good NT act won't impress me.



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26 Dec 2012, 6:28 pm

nessa238 wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
All of the people who are judging him and saying he is bad for only talking about his special interests are being unfair. You can't judge someone from watching a few videos about them on the internet. Not only that but the venues in which he is usually videoed are either scripted or they are on shows discussing his savantism. The only other area he is videoed is at presentations where he obviously is going to discuss his talents because thats the only reason people come to see him.

If he didnt talk about his talents why would people come to see some autistic guy with glasses and a weird articulation of the word ''sav-ant''



Didn't you ask us to judge him from one video in the first place?

And didn't you say in your first post "He looks pretty normal to me"?
Well I was complimenting him, and was curious if anyone could see what elements of autism are present in him.....you guys are talking badly about him discussing his interest in interviews built around that premise.


I'd read some of his book and heard him talk on the radio before anyway so was aware of him
and so already had an opinion of him.

I think you have far more interest in trying to appear NT than me. I see trying to fool people into seeing me as NT as a 'betrayal' of my essential autistic nature. Whereas you seem to see it as a good thing to appear as NT as possible in order to fit in ie you want to hide your autism.
I pride myself on society not getting me to act as it wants me to act - that is far more of a challenge than conforming to NT behaviour in my opinion. I am who I am - why shouldn't I just be able to be me? That's my take on things anyway.

I pride myself on not being NT, hence a person who does a good NT act won't impress me.
Well i have a few goals in life as far as my communication with other people. I'd like to firstly be less anxious and be more assertive with others. I'd also like to fit in better with others. Lastly, I'd like a girlfriend. Seems being NT is the way to do so.


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26 Dec 2012, 6:37 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
All of the people who are judging him and saying he is bad for only talking about his special interests are being unfair. You can't judge someone from watching a few videos about them on the internet. Not only that but the venues in which he is usually videoed are either scripted or they are on shows discussing his savantism. The only other area he is videoed is at presentations where he obviously is going to discuss his talents because thats the only reason people come to see him.

If he didnt talk about his talents why would people come to see some autistic guy with glasses and a weird articulation of the word ''sav-ant''



Didn't you ask us to judge him from one video in the first place?

And didn't you say in your first post "He looks pretty normal to me"?
Well I was complimenting him, and was curious if anyone could see what elements of autism are present in him.....you guys are talking badly about him discussing his interest in interviews built around that premise.


I'd read some of his book and heard him talk on the radio before anyway so was aware of him
and so already had an opinion of him.

I think you have far more interest in trying to appear NT than me. I see trying to fool people into seeing me as NT as a 'betrayal' of my essential autistic nature. Whereas you seem to see it as a good thing to appear as NT as possible in order to fit in ie you want to hide your autism.
I pride myself on society not getting me to act as it wants me to act - that is far more of a challenge than conforming to NT behaviour in my opinion. I am who I am - why shouldn't I just be able to be me? That's my take on things anyway.

I pride myself on not being NT, hence a person who does a good NT act won't impress me.
Well i have a few goals in life as far as my communication with other people. I'd like to firstly be less anxious and be more assertive with others. I'd also like to fit in better with others. Lastly, I'd like a girlfriend. Seems being NT is the way to do so.


Yes it can be a route to this but not the only one.

I can be assertive when I need to be and I seem to have overcome the worst effects of the bad social anxiety I used to have, possibly due to the anti-depressant medication I take (75mg of Efexor every day). Also I have been able to find most of my boyfriends by not following the usual NT route of going out and socialising. I have found them online in other words.
I would say that these boyfriends have not been NT though; they were either on the autistic spectrum like myself or with some other neuro-diversity. I prefer to find people who just let me be myself basically and that tends to be people who are not NT. Most NTs wouldn't even want to have a conversation with me, let alone go out with me but the feeling is mutual so it's fine.
NTs seem to be characterised by intolerance and judgementalness, which I find is not conducive at all to the forming of a close bond with another person



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26 Dec 2012, 6:41 pm

Is Daniel Tammet acting like himself or faking NT in this video? I can't tell.



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26 Dec 2012, 6:59 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
He looks pretty normal to me..what symptoms do you see?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fjBENKFVYM


When he walked in initially, I noticed he didn't swing his arms in a fluidic, "neurotypical" manner. His "r"s sometimes are pronounced in a peculiar manner; when he pronouced "brain" it sounded more like "bwain", "America" sounded more like "Amerwica". His seating position, facing Dave throughout the interview, was quite rigid. Note his fixed gaze, especially 6:55 - 7:15. This was after he demonstrated his abilities as a Savant.

An interview is quite different from regular everyday chit-chat. More specific peculiarities would likely be noticable if you met Daniel at a dinner party, or if you worked with him.



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26 Dec 2012, 7:04 pm

Kindertotenlieder79 wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
He looks pretty normal to me..what symptoms do you see?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fjBENKFVYM


When he walked in initially, I noticed he didn't swing his arms in a fluidic, "neurotypical" manner. His "r"s sometimes are pronounced in a peculiar manner; when he pronouced "brain" it sounded more like "bwain", "America" sounded more like "Amerwica". His seating position, facing Dave throughout the interview, was quite rigid. Note his fixed gaze, especially 6:55 - 7:15. This was after he demonstrated his abilities as a Savant.

An interview is quite different from regular everyday chit-chat. More specific peculiarities would likely be noticable if you met Daniel at a dinner party, or if you worked with him.
lol dude he is british


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26 Dec 2012, 8:58 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
Is Daniel Tammet acting like himself or faking NT in this video? I can't tell.


I couldn't tell much of anything. People are describing entire lists of behaviors or tells they noticed, but I just saw two men talking.



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26 Dec 2012, 9:06 pm

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Is Daniel Tammet acting like himself or faking NT in this video? I can't tell.


I couldn't tell much of anything. People are describing entire lists of behaviors or tells they noticed, but I just saw two men talking.


Me too. I didn't notice anything either.



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26 Dec 2012, 10:03 pm

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Is Daniel Tammet acting like himself or faking NT in this video? I can't tell.


I couldn't tell much of anything. People are describing entire lists of behaviors or tells they noticed, but I just saw two men talking.


Me too. I didn't notice anything either.


I did comment on his eyebrow movement earlier on, but mostly...nothing.



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26 Dec 2012, 10:37 pm

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lol dude he is british


Duh. How does that relate to anything I posted?



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26 Dec 2012, 10:40 pm

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lol dude he is british


Duh. How does that relate to anything I posted?
You are saying he doesnt have typical american characteristics...of course he doesnt lol. Also you were pointing out his weird articulation of words. He's not American.


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26 Dec 2012, 10:47 pm

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You are saying he doesnt have typical american characteristics.


Didn't say or suggest that at all. I pointed out that he pronounces some of his "r"'s as "w"s. That is not a characteristic trait of properly spoken English in either Britain or America.