Forcing socialization on young adults with Asperger's?
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emimeni wrote:
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People who do nothing but sit in their room get depressed, ... .
Sounds like heaven to me.
Forced socialization sounds like hell to me.
I also have to agree!
The thing is, if I went to support group/day program full of people, I'm not going to "socially adjust". I'm always going to be the person sitting in the metaphorical back row, not talking to anyone
Yeah, that's usually how I end up, too.
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LtlPinkCoupe wrote:
emimeni wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
People who do nothing but sit in their room get depressed, ... .
Sounds like heaven to me.
Forced socialization sounds like hell to me.
I also have to agree!
The thing is, if I went to support group/day program full of people, I'm not going to "socially adjust". I'm always going to be the person sitting in the metaphorical back row, not talking to anyone
Yeah, that's usually how I end up, too.
Same here, and that makes me much more depressed than just sitting at home not worrying how I fit in.
This is an individual thing, certainly.
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Dillogic wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
People who do nothing but sit in their room get depressed, ... .
Sounds like heaven to me.
Forced socialization sounds like hell to me.
Yeah, sure, sitting in my room all the time, I do get depressed. Maybe once every two weeks, but it is a brief depression.
When I used to go out and socialize, I would get depressed far more often, even when I managed to have what I believed was a successful encounter with other people. (often I would find out I wasn't as successful as I thought, and that would lead to even more depression.)
Socialization isn't always bad...
but forced socializing is the worst hell imaginable.
"Hell is other people."
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Khraese wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
Socializing is the greatest weakness in ASDs, and it's a weakness that doesn't improve.
Disagree in full with the sentiment that it's a weakness that doesn't improve. You can learn social cues and how to not be awkward. Aspergers is not debilitating. We have no physical limitations preventing us from learning how to cope with society.
It's not like asking a person without legs to walk because a person without legs could never re-grow them. On the other hand, while social behavior doesn't come naturally, it can be learned.
If anyone thinks that Aspergers is debilitating and wholly prevents you from learning to cope or enjoy society, that is frankly depressing.
Physical limitations are the only thing that can prevent one from learning to cope with society? and physical limitations always prevent people from this? There are mental limitations, also I am more aware of some social cues, but yeah don't think the not being awkward thing is going to happen I cannot process enough information at once to pick up and read social cues, make proper eye contact/body language and pay attention to them as well all at the same time, I do not think it is something that can be learned in my case...because even when I do learn things about socializing them applying it to real life is still problematic. Not to mention aspergers syndrome/autism effects more than social interaction...you have heard of sensory issues correct? even if the social issues aren't necessarily debilitating those certainly can be but the social issues are rather debilitating to.
Also though what is there exactly to enjoy about this current society?
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Khraese wrote:
I think that, as a 23 year old man who was diagnosed with AS at 15, my biggest regret is not trying to be more social. I sit around in my parents home playing video games all day, then sleeping, then waking the next day to play more video games, and not advancing my life. And to be fair, while I'm not really depressed about it, I do feel that my life could have been a lot more exciting if I'd gone out and made something of myself by being part of the world.
In that regard, I find nothing morally wrong with trying to get someone to be more social.
In that regard, I find nothing morally wrong with trying to get someone to be more social.
Is there a reason you cannot now be a part of the world as you put it? 23 isn't too old to start having a life so to speak, though actually going out can be anxiety provoking, much of the time I plan to go out places I could potentially meet people and decide against it because I feel in too bad of a mood, or like I'd get overwhelmed or worried I'll embarrass myself or something or be mocked....nonetheless I still push myself to get out there sometimes, and also spend time with the few people I am rather close to.
On the downside though simply being more social does not necessarily solve problems, there are also jerks and people who will try to take advantage and what not, so not all social interaction is pleasant...then again its largely unpleasant interactions from childhood that probably make me so anxious/nervous about social interaction.
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