Argument for Autism being a breakthrough in evolution

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29 Jan 2013, 8:20 am

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Researchers have noticed that the increase in the births you describe has led to an increase in other disabilities such as vision impairment (underdeveloped eyes) and learning disabilities.

Yup. That's what got me thinking, too. Plus, back when I was born (late '80s), induction was only used sparingly, and mostly for VERY overdue babies. My mother had to be induced when I was born, because I was 11 days late. But now, they're inducing for women at, say, 39 weeks- not even their due date! And it's a known phenomenon that, many times, Pitocin-induced contractions are too hard on the fetus, making the fetus's heart rate drop and causing an emergency C-section.


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29 Jan 2013, 7:35 pm

... still no proof of claim ...

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29 Jan 2013, 8:05 pm

Because you post CRAP like that

Whats your effort there? ZERO!!

What your demanded effort of me? A great deal.

It will be done - however I will keep it from your eyes if I can on general principle



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29 Jan 2013, 9:40 pm

After four pages, I've yet to see any "Argument for Autism being a breakthrough in evolution" in this thread.

I'll keep checking back.


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29 Jan 2013, 9:50 pm

Why would ANYONE share that here?



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30 Jan 2013, 12:22 am

I think the sudden increase in the diagnosis of Autism is caused by two things:

1) Improvements in the science of psychiatry. I guess this a case of cumulative knowledge....one of the drivers of species evolution and survival!

2) Increase in the education of women over the past 150 years or so. This means professional educated men, the main carriers of the Autism genes and those educated professional women (more likely to carry an Autism gene) spending more time together and therefore making marriages and producing kids in greater numbers than ever before. Education is also a driver of survival!

Maybe the evolutionary concept is not so far fetched!!



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30 Jan 2013, 12:34 am

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Why would ANYONE share that here?

Because that's the title that the OP chose for this thread.

If he did not want any "Arguments for Autism being a breakthrough in evolution", then maybe he should have called it something else.

Arguments ... evidence ... I'd just like to see why someone would think that Autistics are the next step in human evolution - something other than anecdotes, since the plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence".


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30 Jan 2013, 2:49 am

Fnord wrote:
the plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence".


That's a great way to put it. I'll have to make sure I remember that phrase.



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30 Jan 2013, 8:09 am

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Because that's the title that the OP chose for this thread.


Perhaps I will start a thread - what are your internet banking log on details?

The basic answer is this

Under the simple triune brain model its quite clear that its the new neo-cortex that is dominant in Aspergers, NOT the lowly mammilian or reptilian brains. The higher brain is where we find logic and analysis - the lower brains we find emotions. As people tend to be too neo-cortex dominant and have what is currently regarded as too little emotional involvement from the lower brains - hence so many need to learn social and emotional intelligence yet have a outstanding pure intelligence.

I have no willingness to share or elaborate any further - because this site is a hostile bunch of dodo's at times.



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30 Jan 2013, 11:17 am

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Because that's the title that the OP chose for this thread.
The basic answer is this: Under the simple triune brain model its quite clear that its the new neo-cortex that is dominant in Aspergers, NOT the lowly mammalian or reptilian brains. The higher brain is where we find logic and analysis - the lower brains we find emotions. As people tend to be too neo-cortex dominant and have what is currently regarded as too little emotional involvement from the lower brains - hence so many need to learn social and emotional intelligence yet have a outstanding pure intelligence.

Can you cite any valid medical research that would back up this idea?

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I have no willingness to share or elaborate any further...

Does that mean that you have finished posting in this thread?

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... because this site is a hostile bunch of dodo's at times.

Beats being a bunch of ignorant jerks, I suppose.


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30 Jan 2013, 5:06 pm

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Beats being a bunch of ignorant jerks


Oh no that applies

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Does that mean that you have finished posting in this thread?


Erm...........in order to answer i have to post.

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Can you cite any valid medical research that would back up this idea?


Yes



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30 Jan 2013, 5:12 pm

There is no such thing as a "breakthrough in evolution". That would imply it has a direction.



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30 Jan 2013, 6:17 pm

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There is no such thing as a "breakthrough in evolution". That would imply it has a direction.

It makes as much sense as saying "Quantum Leap in Technology" as if it were something significant.


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30 Jan 2013, 6:28 pm

I'm still waiting for my super-human Aspergers powers...I'm sure they'll come to me one of these days!



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05 Feb 2013, 8:36 pm

I have had similar thoughts on the evolution thing.
But I also agree that society is the ones who must adapt to us.

As a doctor once said about the now invalid diagnosis AS (December 1st 2012 onward = no aspergers only ASD which so many seem to have not heard about, sorry I like to remain factual best I can)..

"People with Asperger's Syndrome do not suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, they suffer from other people." - Unknown (can't recall the doctors name).

We do suffer but it's mostly due to the nonacceptance of society and the mistreatment therein.
The majority of our "issues" would be relieved if society learns to accept and make minor adaptations for us.
The same would likely be true for most people with ASD and not those previously diagnosed as AS.

The problem is not with ASD alone.



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05 Feb 2013, 8:58 pm

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the now invalid diagnosis AS (December 1st 2012 onward = no aspergers only ASD which so many seem to have not heard about, sorry I like to remain factual best I can).


Only in USA (and any other countries using the DSM, if there are any). In the UK we follow the IDC-10 and Asperger's is still a valid diagnosis.


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