Negative view on self diagnostic

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I was saying that AS had to be diagnosed based on the development of an individual, or else it could be considered HFA or something else. You ADMITTED that by saying HFA and AS were the same thing based on the appearance of the end result. Saying they are the same is like saying two grammer schools are GOOD because the two college students excelled. One may have leaned everything s/he should have in the grammer school, an the other may have learned NOTHING from it, and had to study profusely. Don't get me wrong! EITHER case, the people may be the SAME. The diagnosis would be different.

From wikipedia for AS:

No significant delay in language;
During the first three years of life, there can be no clinically significant delay in cognitive development such as curiosity about the existing environment or the acquisition of age appropriate learning skills, self-help skills, or adaptive behaviors (other than social interaction);

As we ALL know, autism itself, LFA or HFA has no such requirements.

Steve

"Think for yourself... Question authority
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality.To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness; chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.

Think for yourself... Question authority."

- Timothy Leary

Sorry for the interruption, that is all I have to say folks.

Ok, let me break this down:

HFA and AS are not separate disorders according too either DSM-IV-TR or the ICD-10
(I didn't say this, the DIAGNOSTIC MANUALS say this.)

That's why calling it "Aspergers's" or "High-functioning autism" as though they were single diseases with a simple set of symptoms is so problematic. It's why they call it a 'spectrum', it affects people differently. (This is quite obvious, They're DIFFERENT)

MY point was that though they present different symptoms they're the same disease-process affecting different people in different ways.
(Though having a common, likely genetic, origin Autistic spectrum disorders will act VERY differently among different people. What might result in 'typical' autism in one person will result in asperger's in another or PDD in yet another person)

There- I made my point, I'm done.

Yep, you made your point. "curebie" IRONICALLY, YOU are the type of person this thread is against.

And HEY, if it is a "DISEASE" WHERE can I get it! Let's infect everyone, and then maybe the bad parts will all go away. I mean if evenryone speaks the same language, you don't have to learn another!

Steve

You're making assumptions again, and I'm getting quite tired of it. Now you're attacking the synonyms I use? here's the wikipedia definition of disease:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease

A disease or medical condition is an abnormality of the body or mind that causes DISCOMFORT, DYSFUNCTION, DISTRESS, or death to the person afflicted OF THOSE IN CONTACT WITH THE PERSON.

So yes, I'd consider the autistic spectrum a disease, and I am not a 'curebie', stop using loaded language.

HEY, I didn't start with the loaded language, YOU did. Maybe you should look at the line just below "privacy policy" on the pages here.

From the page you pointed me to:



The first and last statements don't apply to AS. BTW I'm not the first here to take umbrage at that, and I won't be the last. Disease is an overused word.

BTW Go onto a deaf forum, and call deafness a disease. You'll probably get the SAME reaction. At least a lot of deafness IS caused by diseases. There is no evidence that AS is.

Steve

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, this place needs its name changing as its miss leading to someone who defines “disease” as a virus that can infect other people in some way that come into contact with that person, yes its genetically passed but it isn’t exactly a bad disease.

Is centers even spelled right ( http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/ )

More you look at American words, it seems your language is written for dyslexic people as I would spell centers instead of centres, or color instead of colour as I would not see the u... if center is spelled that way in Us...


Anyone got the history of who written the words, or coined them.... Instead of me looking ta...

This has got me thinking about if they are any languages out there that has my syntax, just a wild guess...

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HEY, I didn't start with the loaded language, YOU did. Maybe you should look at the line just below "privacy policy" on the pages here.

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No, I used the word disease ONCE and defended my use of it, being unaware of its 'dirty word' status. I won't make that mistake again. You, on the other hand, used 'curebie' as a personal attack, knowing full well what it meant. See the difference?

I used that word once for one instance. I used it as a minor slight, and to make a point. I'm sorry if you feel I wanted to push any other buttons, etc... Anyway, I don't want to continue this. Heck, I wish this whole thread would die. Frankly, I don't see the point in any of it. I just don't like it when someone declares a diagnosis perfect if made by a "professional", WRONG otherwise, and thinks those here that haven't been "professionally" diagnosed have an adverse ulterior motive.

Steve

Agreed, that's why I started posting on this thread in the first place. Let's just let it sink, as it should, into obscurity and forget all about it.