Have people ever described you as "scary"?
"To NT ears" is key, I listened to all 4 voices and wasn't the least bit disturbed by any of them. I felt like they all sounded quirky, but they all sounded human and none of them scared me or grossed me out.
Well, I would consider myself "NT enough" in this case to say that none of the voices sounded scary or gross. A little "off" maybe, but I know NT people who's voices are just as "off."
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Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. In fact, the voice of Cruella DeVille is based on the voice of an autistic female. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
Well, people were wondering why others react to them in a certain way, so I was trying to be helpful. I am pretty NT when it comes to nonverbal communication myself; also, I specifically sought out voice "types" based on what I've heard before.
The gross one is quite like a girl I used to know, and that is how others described it. The one I called super creepy I shared with my 12-year-old NT sister without telling her where it was from.
Also, I used to have a much more messed up voice: similar to the "gross" voice -- it's an autistic tendency for prosody to be messed up to the extent the voice crackles in a gross way. That is what people told me about mine. I think if you were to give these voices to most teenage NT's (that's key: older ones know better than to be so harsh), you'd get a similar opinion.
Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. In fact, the voice of Cruella DeVille is based on the voice of an autistic female. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
Well, people were wondering why others react to them in a certain way, so I was trying to be helpful. I am pretty NT when it comes to nonverbal communication myself; also, I specifically sought out voice "types" based on what I've heard before.
The gross one is quite like a girl I used to know, and that is how others described it. The one I called super creepy I shared with my 12-year-old NT sister without telling her where it was from.
Also, I used to have a much more messed up voice: similar to the "gross" voice -- it's an autistic tendency for prosody to be messed up to the extent the voice crackles in a gross way. That is what people told me about mine. I think if you were to give these voices to most teenage NT's (that's key: older ones know better than to be so harsh), you'd get a similar opinion.
That's where you and I differ because I don't give a toss about the opinions of NT teenagers/NTs as a rule, whereas you seem to dance attendance upon them
Good luck with that strategy is all I can say
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I'm glad you posted the voices. It is helpful in the sense that knowledge about yourself and how you're viewed is helpful. I've been listening to them again. I want to know what these sound like to most people.....I'd like to know what I sound like to the general population (maybe gross) but I'm way too embarrassed to post my voice.
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Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. In fact, the voice of Cruella DeVille is based on the voice of an autistic female. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
Well, people were wondering why others react to them in a certain way, so I was trying to be helpful. I am pretty NT when it comes to nonverbal communication myself; also, I specifically sought out voice "types" based on what I've heard before.
The gross one is quite like a girl I used to know, and that is how others described it. The one I called super creepy I shared with my 12-year-old NT sister without telling her where it was from.
Also, I used to have a much more messed up voice: similar to the "gross" voice -- it's an autistic tendency for prosody to be messed up to the extent the voice crackles in a gross way. That is what people told me about mine. I think if you were to give these voices to most teenage NT's (that's key: older ones know better than to be so harsh), you'd get a similar opinion.
That's where you and I differ because I don't give a toss about the opinions of NT teenagers/NTs as a rule, whereas you seem to dance attendance upon them
Good luck with that strategy is all I can say
You're misunderstanding me. I was trying to be helpful based on my own experience of why people react to us in certain ways. That is not the same thing as validating the opinion of NT teenagers. It's just that NT teenagers tend to be the most judgmental, harshest, and most conformist of anyone. Thus, if you want to know what others are thinking but refuse to say, maybe the opinion of people like my 12-year-old sister is a good barometer.
Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. In fact, the voice of Cruella DeVille is based on the voice of an autistic female. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
Well, people were wondering why others react to them in a certain way, so I was trying to be helpful. I am pretty NT when it comes to nonverbal communication myself; also, I specifically sought out voice "types" based on what I've heard before.
The gross one is quite like a girl I used to know, and that is how others described it. The one I called super creepy I shared with my 12-year-old NT sister without telling her where it was from.
Also, I used to have a much more messed up voice: similar to the "gross" voice -- it's an autistic tendency for prosody to be messed up to the extent the voice crackles in a gross way. That is what people told me about mine. I think if you were to give these voices to most teenage NT's (that's key: older ones know better than to be so harsh), you'd get a similar opinion.
That's where you and I differ because I don't give a toss about the opinions of NT teenagers/NTs as a rule, whereas you seem to dance attendance upon them
Good luck with that strategy is all I can say
You're misunderstanding me. I was trying to be helpful based on my own experience of why people react to us in certain ways. That is not the same thing as validating the opinion of NT teenagers. It's just that NT teenagers tend to be the most judgmental, harshest, and most conformist of anyone. Thus, if you want to know what others are thinking but refuse to say, maybe the opinion of people like my 12-year-old sister is a good barometer.
I don't care what they think - it's narrow minded rubbish 99% of the time
if you want to be like them go ahead but it's the way you seem obsessed with advising the rest of us on how to be like them that gets me - I'd rather be dead than act like the average NT!
I'm sure if any of the people in those videos were on WP they'd be delighted to know you were calling their voices 'gross'
(when they aren't at all)
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Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. In fact, the voice of Cruella DeVille is based on the voice of an autistic female. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
Well, people were wondering why others react to them in a certain way, so I was trying to be helpful. I am pretty NT when it comes to nonverbal communication myself; also, I specifically sought out voice "types" based on what I've heard before.
The gross one is quite like a girl I used to know, and that is how others described it. The one I called super creepy I shared with my 12-year-old NT sister without telling her where it was from.
Also, I used to have a much more messed up voice: similar to the "gross" voice -- it's an autistic tendency for prosody to be messed up to the extent the voice crackles in a gross way. That is what people told me about mine. I think if you were to give these voices to most teenage NT's (that's key: older ones know better than to be so harsh), you'd get a similar opinion.
That's where you and I differ because I don't give a toss about the opinions of NT teenagers/NTs as a rule, whereas you seem to dance attendance upon them
Good luck with that strategy is all I can say
You're misunderstanding me. I was trying to be helpful based on my own experience of why people react to us in certain ways. That is not the same thing as validating the opinion of NT teenagers. It's just that NT teenagers tend to be the most judgmental, harshest, and most conformist of anyone. Thus, if you want to know what others are thinking but refuse to say, maybe the opinion of people like my 12-year-old sister is a good barometer.
I don't care what they think - it's narrow minded rubbish 99% of the time
if you want to be like them go ahead but it's the way you seem obsessed with advising the rest of us on how to be like them that gets me - I'd rather be dead than act like the average NT!
I'm sure if any of the people in those videos were on WP they'd be delighted to know you were calling their voices 'gross'
(when they aren't at all)
I never said anything about being like "them." Also, as someone likely on the spectrum myself and lacking in empathy, I tend to care more about accurate analysis and being helpful than the possibility of hurting someone's feelings.
anyway, you're probably right. I should not have done it; it's really hard for people to change their voice anyhow (it's been really rough and frustrating for me). So I am going to end this conversation now.
I enjoy movies so I tried to find out where you got this reference from - the only reference I could find is that the original 101 Dalmatians voice actress for Cruella said she based it on the 1920s actress Tallulah Bankhead .... known for her exciting and vibrant lifestyle I also found that they used Bette Davis as a role model....
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Cruella_De_Vil
So - could you reference provide info for your claim as it is v interesting - if it is a recent Disney film you were referring to, I find it unusual that anyone involved in the production of this film would make such a disciminatory comment that would leave them open to litigation?
- and just to add my viewpoint to this discussion, I don't think making negative generalisations about personality traits or how people project their voice in this way is really that helpful to people on the spectrum - it does seem a bit far-fetched and the rhetoric and logic is a bit off.
as an old fan of the books and movie - I'm interested if you can send the link to the article you found this info in - many thanks
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I enjoy movies so I tried to find out where you got this reference from - the only reference I could find is that the original 101 Dalmatians voice actress for Cruella said she based it on the 1920s actress Tallulah Bankhead .... known for her exciting and vibrant lifestyle I also found that they used Bette Davis as a role model....
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Cruella_De_Vil
So - could you reference provide info for your claim as it is v interesting - if it is a recent Disney film you were referring to, I find it unusual that anyone involved in the production of this film would make such a disciminatory comment that would leave them open to litigation?
- and just to add my viewpoint to this discussion, I don't think making negative generalisations about personality traits or how people project their voice in this way is really that helpful to people on the spectrum - it does seem a bit far-fetched and the rhetoric and logic is a bit off.
as an old fan of the books and movie - I'm interested if you can send the link to the article you found this info in - many thanks
I heard this second-hand. After I posted that, I went back and listened to the Disney cartoon and must say I disagree. So sorry. Ignore it.
Actually it does work pretty well most of the time. Very few people mess with me if I put my 'hard stare' on. Doesn't make you feel very feminine though
I don't know that just a look would work on a genuine psycho if they tried to attack me, and even if I can look scary, I'm still small, so if it came down to genuine strength I wouldn't have a chance. So it's not a perfect safety system, because at the end of the day that's who is most likely to actually threaten your safety.
It'd still be somewhat helpful, by the sound of it. And certainly better than nothing. Although I suppose it could also lead to a false sense of safety. I doubt anything would work on actual psychos.
Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
Thanks! : D
I think my prosody can be off because I can sort of breathe wrong at times. When I had to read something out loud once I noticed that I tended to make a short stop as I finished reading the second last word before the comma, instead of stopping at the comma, but it was more like stopping to breathe. I think that might be due to asthma (and reduced lung capacity) more than ASD? Or maybe just breathing ‘wrong’ in the first place.
I don’t know how I usually sound. When I had to read out loud in school when I was little the teacher expressed surprise that I allegedly read the dialogue with feeling, yet my shrink claimed I spoke monotonously about my life. I didn’t feel like I did, but I was very anxious so that might have influenced me.
I have asked my mother and she said I do both.
The girl in the first video sounded ret*d to me too, TBH, especially at first… Makes me think of an interview I saw on TV a few days ago. An aspie was interviewed in connection with job training and he sounded ret*d. I actually cringed upon hearing it.
Someone I know IRL also has a way of speaking and a voice that makes her sound ret*d. She has CP, I don’t know if that has anything to do with it.
The second one sounded normal to me! That’s supposed to be creepy?? Same goes for the fourth. Annoying that she used the word ‘antisocial’ when she meant ‘asocial’ though! (and her views on what girls like lol)
I wouldn’t have noticed anything about the way the second and fourth speak…
The third one… well, she sounded off with her strange way of dividing sentences, interrupting herself and starting over. Other than that she sounded upset or high strung to me. One thing in particular that I noticed was 02:35-02:45. She says that “I love you guys” and mentions how getting 200 likes on FB made her so happy, and she neither looks nor sounds happy at all! Nor did she look or sound like someone who cared about the ones she talked about. That was very educational as to how I might come off myself as I don’t always show anything on my face, and I’ve just been annoyed by any such notions, but seeing it myself… I need to think about that….
Knowing is always a good thing.
Thank you for posting those, I really appreciate it!
I’m so sorry you got chewed out for it!
I agree and again, I appreciate it!
Oh. Sorry. That’s no good then.
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
That’s not fair. He was only posting that to help me understand how autistic voices come off. No one said anything about preferring anything, enforcing NT standards on anyone or judging them. It’s all about understanding oneself and the reactions one elicit.
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Actually it does work pretty well most of the time. Very few people mess with me if I put my 'hard stare' on. Doesn't make you feel very feminine though
I don't know that just a look would work on a genuine psycho if they tried to attack me, and even if I can look scary, I'm still small, so if it came down to genuine strength I wouldn't have a chance. So it's not a perfect safety system, because at the end of the day that's who is most likely to actually threaten your safety.
It'd still be somewhat helpful, by the sound of it. And certainly better than nothing. Although I suppose it could also lead to a false sense of safety. I doubt anything would work on actual psychos.
Prosody and inflection are off to the extent that it sounds creepy or unpleasant. This is the case in both men and women, but particularly in women. Men actually are worse, but the same level of impairment sounds less abnormal in men to the NT ear.
1. Here is a slightly creepy version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyUco0sxoaU (sounds like mentally ret*d/drug user to NT ears)
2. The creepier version (sounds a little gross): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYVuoYvQKyw (sounds gross to NT ears)
3. A video where the speaker seems disturbed and would definitely scare large men: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHdpgA1-HLs (sounds mentally disturbed and possibly dangerous to NT ears)
4. Here is an aspie girl with a very nice, though distinctly autistic, voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IzAhBuJUh8 (sounds just like a younger version of my mother, actually....interesting )
Thanks! : D
I think my prosody can be off because I can sort of breathe wrong at times. When I had to read something out loud once I noticed that I tended to make a short stop as I finished reading the second last word before the comma, instead of stopping at the comma, but it was more like stopping to breathe. I think that might be due to asthma (and reduced lung capacity) more than ASD? Or maybe just breathing ‘wrong’ in the first place.
I don’t know how I usually sound. When I had to read out loud in school when I was little the teacher expressed surprise that I allegedly read the dialogue with feeling, yet my shrink claimed I spoke monotonously about my life. I didn’t feel like I did, but I was very anxious so that might have influenced me.
I have asked my mother and she said I do both.
The girl in the first video sounded ret*d to me too, TBH, especially at first… Makes me think of an interview I saw on TV a few days ago. An aspie was interviewed in connection with job training and he sounded ret*d. I actually cringed upon hearing it.
Someone I know IRL also has a way of speaking and a voice that makes her sound ret*d. She has CP, I don’t know if that has anything to do with it.
The second one sounded normal to me! That’s supposed to be creepy?? Same goes for the fourth. Annoying that she used the word ‘antisocial’ when she meant ‘asocial’ though! (and her views on what girls like lol)
I wouldn’t have noticed anything about the way the second and fourth speak…
The third one… well, she sounded off with her strange way of dividing sentences, interrupting herself and starting over. Other than that she sounded upset or high strung to me. One thing in particular that I noticed was 02:35-02:45. She says that “I love you guys” and mentions how getting 200 likes on FB made her so happy, and she neither looks nor sounds happy at all! Nor did she look or sound like someone who cared about the ones she talked about. That was very educational as to how I might come off myself as I don’t always show anything on my face, and I’ve just been annoyed by any such notions, but seeing it myself… I need to think about that….
Knowing is always a good thing.
Thank you for posting those, I really appreciate it!
I’m so sorry you got chewed out for it!
I agree and again, I appreciate it!
Oh. Sorry. That’s no good then.
How can you know how any of these people sound 'to NT ears' unless you are NT yourself?
The last girl did not seem autistic at all to me so it's highly ironic you say she has a distinctly autistic voice
I sense a hell of a lot of negative judgement towards the first 3 women coming off yourself
I get fed up of people towards the NT end of the spectrum telling us all 'how it is'
Yes 'how it is' in NT land - if that's what you prefer go there, but please do not try and enforce NT 'standards' on a
board for people with Autism
None of those people sound 'creepy or unpleasant'
What is highly unpleasant is having people judge them in such an NT manner
In my opinion you don't like yourself very much so you project it onto others
That’s not fair. He was only posting that to help me understand how autistic voices come off. No one said anything about preferring anything, enforcing NT standards on anyone or judging them. It’s all about understanding oneself and the reactions one elicit.
It was his use of words like 'gross' to describe the female voices that I didn't like
This could give impressionable people who sounded like the females being referred to the idea that everyone thought their voices were 'gross' etc when in reality it just isn't the case.
The idea that people should try and change their voices to try and fit in better is a bad one in my opinion
How about people just be themselves and tell the judgemental non-accepting types to f-k off?
That's worked far better for me and I am still myself, not some NT clone
You do not become your own person by modifying yourself to please every rude idiot who judges you
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