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13 Jun 2013, 7:11 am

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I'm betting you're most likely projecting feelings onto him.

Nothing you've written points to anything from his side. Holding your hand to see if you have a tremor from anxiety or whatever is normal; it's hard to see a slight tremor.

If you have AS, you wouldn't know what he's feeling anyway without him saying it out aloud.

ya i am the culprit always :twisted:


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13 Jun 2013, 8:00 am

I feel sorry for your husband.



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13 Jun 2013, 10:09 am

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Holding your hand to see if you have a tremor from anxiety or whatever is normal; it's hard to see a slight tremor.


Erm, really? I have never had a psychiatrist or psychologist do that to me. I would have thought they have to guard against impropriety or even the suspicion or notion of it, or the possibility of a patient complaint of sexual harrassment. Especially when the clinician and patient are opposite genders and even more so in a country like India.


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13 Jun 2013, 10:12 am

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I feel sorry for your husband.


Don't. OP has previously described her husband as someone that totally ignores her and is unsupportive. Can't remember more than that, but there could be worse. You should also feel sorry for OP who clearly is very niaive and trusting and desperately in need of affection that she is able to be misguided that way. She's not some calculating seductress looking to have every man she comes across by design.


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13 Jun 2013, 10:28 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatri ... ng_support

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Providing support
Successful therapeutic relationships between nurses and patients need to have positive support. Different methods of providing patients with support include many active responses.[15] Minor activities such as shopping, reading the newspaper together, or taking lunch/dinner breaks with patients can improve the quality of support provided.[19] Physical support may also be used and is manifested through the use of touch.[19] Patients described feelings of connection when the psychiatric nurses hugged them or put a hand on their shoulder.[15] Psychiatric/mental health nurses in Berg and Hallberg's study described an element of a working relationship as comforting through holding a patient's hand.[11] Patients with depression described relief when the psychiatric nurse embraced them.[13] Physical touch is intended to comfort and console patients who are willing to embrace these sensations and share mutual feelings with the psychiatric nurses.


It's beginning to feel like vilifying the opposite gender here. When he just seems to be doing what others are doing. So all this just seems part of the process. She needs healing :|



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13 Jun 2013, 11:16 am

So how can this be transference when my Psychiatrist was my forgotten girlfriend who I first met 17 years ago ?



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13 Jun 2013, 11:22 am

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Erm, really? I have never had a psychiatrist or psychologist do that to me. I would have thought they have to guard against impropriety or even the suspicion or notion of it, or the possibility of a patient complaint of sexual harrassment. Especially when the clinician and patient are opposite genders and even more so in a country like India.

this time he checked my fingers for tremors
then asked me to held his fingers for few seconds
after that he catched my wrist and folded my hands around the shoulder
then the next hand
i dont know why was that even needed 8O


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13 Jun 2013, 11:23 am

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatric_and_mental_health_nursing#Providing_support
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Providing support
Successful therapeutic relationships between nurses and patients need to have positive support. Different methods of providing patients with support include many active responses.[15] Minor activities such as shopping, reading the newspaper together, or taking lunch/dinner breaks with patients can improve the quality of support provided.[19] Physical support may also be used and is manifested through the use of touch.[19] Patients described feelings of connection when the psychiatric nurses hugged them or put a hand on their shoulder.[15] Psychiatric/mental health nurses in Berg and Hallberg's study described an element of a working relationship as comforting through holding a patient's hand.[11] Patients with depression described relief when the psychiatric nurse embraced them.[13] Physical touch is intended to comfort and console patients who are willing to embrace these sensations and share mutual feelings with the psychiatric nurses.


It's beginning to feel like vilifying the opposite gender here. When he just seems to be doing what others are doing. So all this just seems part of the process. She needs healing :|


Why vilifying? Isn't it dodgy for a clinician to be alone in a room with a vulnerable (in some cases mentally-ill and delusional) patient and putting their hands on them? Maybe in the cases you cite this is in a room with others, not alone. Or from female-only nurses where it would be less threatening?


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13 Jun 2013, 11:24 am

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It's beginning to feel like vilifying the opposite gender here. When he just seems to be doing what others are doing. So all this just seems part of the process. She needs healing :|


Why vilifying? Isn't it dodgy for a clinician to be alone in a room with a vulnerable (in some cases mentally-ill and delusional) patient and putting their hands on them? Maybe in the cases you cite this is in a room with others, not alone. Or from female-only nurses where it would be less threatening?[/quote]
nobody around just he and me :roll:


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13 Jun 2013, 11:36 am

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whirlingmind wrote:

Erm, really? I have never had a psychiatrist or psychologist do that to me. I would have thought they have to guard against impropriety or even the suspicion or notion of it, or the possibility of a patient complaint of sexual harrassment. Especially when the clinician and patient are opposite genders and even more so in a country like India.

this time he checked my fingers for tremors
then asked me to held his fingers for few seconds
after that he catched my wrist and folded my hands around the shoulder
then the next hand
i dont know why was that even needed 8O


Please be cautious. He could be grooming you/testing the water, what if his hand accidentally "slips" onto your chest or something? I could be wrong, but please be on high alert. This sounds very odd to me.


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13 Jun 2013, 11:41 am

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Please be cautious. He could be grooming you/testing the water, what if his hand accidentally "slips" onto your chest or something? I could be wrong, but please be on high alert. This sounds very odd to me.

i never been to psychatrist before alone
so i thought that they might be checking such things
ya sounds weird to me too :?
next time he could be aiming for my chest


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13 Jun 2013, 12:20 pm

I almost fainted when my Doctor held my hand.



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13 Jun 2013, 3:22 pm

I would never let a therapist touch me physically.


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13 Jun 2013, 4:07 pm

namaste wrote:
How should be ones relationship with ones psychatrist??

I have a male psychatrist, he is around my same age?

Its like instant chemistry :P

How should i behave around him?

I get emotionally attached with people who show bit of interest :roll:


How often have you seen this psychiatrist. I read back and noticed that you saw a psychiatrist a couple of years ago. He prescribed meds, that you said didn't work. Is this a new doc?

When you first went to this psychiatrist what did you "present with?" That is, what did you say the problem was that brought you to see him?


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13 Jun 2013, 5:37 pm

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I'm not going to get into the ethics of it all. This situation is very simple- You are trying to get help for your issues. You have some feelings for the doctor. Getting help requires a professional relationship devoid of personal feelings that will derail your objective.

Solution: Stop screwing around and go find someone you don't have feelings for so you can meet your mental health goals. Consider talking to the next doctor about your attachment issue.

simple straightforward advice
but what guarantee i wont fall for the next doctor
i get emotionally attached :roll: easily


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14 Jun 2013, 7:15 am

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I would never let a therapist touch me physically.

they dont ask permission
they just touch abruptly
its like a command rather then a request
i dont want to make a scene at the hospital
so i remain quite :cry:


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