ever wonder where your autism came from?

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01 Feb 2014, 10:43 pm

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Although it is controversial, and widely disputed, there is an increasing body of research supporting the theory that childhood vaccinations from compounds containing the mercury-derived preservative thimerosal,can lead to autism. Mercury toxicity, from any source, has also been linked to autism by many researchers.

The evidence was enough to convince many pharmaceutical companies to stop using thimerosal as the preservative agent in their vaccines. Even without a definitive link, the liability lawsuit exposure was enough.

I think the problem here is that vaccines seem to be safe on the general population but there's a few cases where children have been adversely affected.
To be honest I don't know why people have to get so defensive when people bring up the possibility that vaccines could cause autism or symptoms mimicking autism.
I'm not anti-vax by any means. It's more of a personal choice for me about what gets put into my body.
I could go into an ADHD forum and be faced with the same amount of skepticism when I say Ritalin gave me bipolar, epilepsy and hypoglycemia. Some people can only really believe in the science even when the research we need done is being neglected.

To me vaccines are about as safe as the birth control pill. Millions of women take it and have little to no side effects, while a small handful have their lives destroyed by it. That's what it feels like when you develop a mood disorder from being on that drug.

A lot of people in my family including me have been negatively affected by vaccines. In my family we usually get sleep problems and physical problems before any signs of autism show. After vaccines I started getting sleeping problems and severe food sensitivities. I do show some autistic like tendencies, but a lot of them went away on their own with diet changes. I also have a lot of non-autistic traits. I have a lot of physical health issues as well. My mom avoided vaccinating my sister and she ended up being NT.


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01 Feb 2014, 11:35 pm

My son has been vaccinated several times and every time he would get a higher body temperature and act different that evening and he would be back to normal in a few days with normal body temperature.


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01 Feb 2014, 11:51 pm

Pretty sure the brain hemorrhaging at 3 days old didn't help.


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02 Feb 2014, 12:06 am

Well, the majority of the scientific community believe that autism is highly heritable and that it's polygenetic (a lot of different genes come together to cause Autism and so far the genes that have been identified as contributing to it each only contribute a VERY small amount so it's an unknown combination of genes and may be different from case to case). Of course autism isn't 100% heritable and the environmental factors thought to contribute to it are mostly prenatal insults.

It seems very likely to me that I inherited some autism genes from my mummy and some from my daddy as I can see traits in both of them. My mum is very introverted and asocial and comes across as a bit cold or aloof to people (I've had friends who described her as rude when they came over). However her social understanding, ability to read people is very highly developed. She's also hypersensitive to touch and wears her clothes inside out at home so she doesn't feel seams, cuts the collars off shirts she wears around the house and makes sure she gets rid of every scrap of her tags ect. My dad has obsessive interests in music and philosophers and will go for hours about them and not realize when people are bored- he'll even go on about these things with his six year old granddaughter (my niece) and is sometimes very socially inappropriate, according to my mum. . He's also rigid about some things, like wanting to sit in a particular type of seat (booth near the window) in restaurants and have his food a certain way but that may just be fussy old man stuff. =) He's a bit sensitive to noise and doesn't like loud music and he has LOUSY executive functioning.

In terms of environmental factors, my parents were older when they had me , especially my dad. My dad was 48 when I was conceived! He was 17 years older than my mum.

So, yeah, I had no chance....



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02 Feb 2014, 12:07 am

I was only recently diagnosed last year at 39 years old. I've spent most of my life just thinking I was shy and introverted, but otherwise normal. It's been an illuminating year to say the least. The Asperger's diagnosis has really explained a lot about my social anxiety, slightly odd demeanor and relationship history. For me, this is powerful knowledge to help me move forward.

Looking back, I can definitely see that my mother has a lot of Aspie traits. She would also tell stories about her father's strange behavior (he died when I was 5) that seem pretty Aspie to me, too. For example, back in the 60's, he would only watch color television shows on a color television set and b&w shows on a b&w set. Both television sets were next to each other in the house. This is despite the fact that the color television was capable of viewing both color and b&w.

My father's side seems to be completely NT, as far as I can tell.



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02 Feb 2014, 5:03 am

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To me vaccines are about as safe as the birth control pill. Millions of women take it and have little to no side effects, while a small handful have their lives destroyed by it. That's what it feels like when you develop a mood disorder from being on that drug.


I've been on the contraceptive pill since I was 18, and before then I didn't have these mood swings like I do now. But it might not be the pill, it might just be how I've become as an adult.

I believe the MMR vaccine did give me this Autism. My mum has always kept a diary, and it says in the diary that when I first had the vaccine as a 1-year-old baby, my little personality changed literally since that day. Every mum knows their own baby, so she must have noticed. I didn't get worse or show any peculiar signs, I was still a typical baby but just was slightly but noticeably different to how I was before I had the vaccine. Funny how I should have a change in personality from that very day onwards.

That then panics me because I could have been NT and lived a normal life. What if I was naturally born an extroverted NT, and the vaccine could only make me into Asperger's? Wow, a whole life full of social opportunities and normality completely ruined. Why did it have to happen to me??? My poor brain was trying to grow social cells, and then along came the liquid in the vaccine and killed those social cells, making me into a problem.

I feel like the Asperger's is caused by a vaccine. I can actually feel my inner NT self underneath, as though that is who I was naturally supposed to be. I think I'm the most unluckiest Aspie here where the cause of my s**t is concerned.


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02 Feb 2014, 5:29 am

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I believe the MMR vaccine did give me this Autism. My mum has always kept a diary, and it says in the diary that when I first had the vaccine as a 1-year-old baby, my little personality changed literally since that day. Every mum knows their own baby, so she must have noticed. I didn't get worse or show any peculiar signs, I was still a typical baby but just was slightly but noticeably different to how I was before I had the vaccine. Funny how I should have a change in personality from that very day onwards.

That then panics me because I could have been NT and lived a normal life. What if I was naturally born an extroverted NT, and the vaccine could only make me into Asperger's? Wow, a whole life full of social opportunities and normality completely ruined. Why did it have to happen to me??? My poor brain was trying to grow social cells, and then along came the liquid in the vaccine and killed those social cells, making me into a problem.

I feel like the Asperger's is caused by a vaccine. I can actually feel my inner NT self underneath, as though that is who I was naturally supposed to be. I think I'm the most unluckiest Aspie here where the cause of my sh** is concerned.

I feel the same way. I have an inner NT and she feels sad and lonely. She sometimes finds her way out and I feel very happy when that happens. I once mentioned this to other people on the forum, but they thought it was mania.

I know that it wasn't since I've experienced mania. When I have mania I feel hyperactive and slightly delusional. When I feel NT I feel calm, happy, connected, extroverted and normal.

I find that for people who's autistic symptoms were caused by vaccines biomedical treatments tend to work. They don't really work for people who were born autistic. Maybe you should ask goldfish21 about this.

I don't think I'll ever be "normal" and that's okay. I'm satisfied being a quirky NT. I think I would have been a quirky, extroverted and artsy NT if I was never vaccinated. Maybe one day I can be the NT I was meant to be.


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02 Feb 2014, 10:07 am

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I find that for people who's autistic symptoms were caused by vaccines biomedical treatments tend to work. They don't really work for people who were born autistic. Maybe you should ask goldfish21 about this.


You mean there might be some hope that I can get better? That would be great. I don't mean ''better'' as in ''cured''. I just mean ''better'' as in ''Asperger's being more bearable to live with''.


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02 Feb 2014, 1:57 pm

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I find that for people who's autistic symptoms were caused by vaccines biomedical treatments tend to work. They don't really work for people who were born autistic. Maybe you should ask goldfish21 about this.


You mean there might be some hope that I can get better? That would be great. I don't mean ''better'' as in ''cured''. I just mean ''better'' as in ''Asperger's being more bearable to live with''.

Yes, there is hope. I'm not sure if it's a cure, but it did eliminate my most severe symptoms quite quickly.


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02 Feb 2014, 3:34 pm

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sometimes i wonder why im autistic.

however, both my parents have traits (my dad has more Schizophrenic traits,)

mom: OCD traits, trouble making and keeping friends (BPD)sensory issues, all or nothing thinking, very inteligent

Dad: Introvert, trouble making and keeping friends (no desire to have friends), strong visual skills, dislikes crowds

i actually am turing out a lot like my Schizophrenic grandmother, or so my grandfather says (the way i talk, my hygiene is poor, my face in general) but i strongly believe my autism is a result of genes, excspecially since my sister and i also share triats

Sister: OCD, trouble making and keeping friends(BPD), sensory issues,

the difference between my sister and i is that she doesnt make friends because she assumes everyone hates her, so she has to adopt a different personality while i simply dont understand social rules at all.

do you ever think about where your autism came from, and where do you think it came from?



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05 Feb 2014, 4:48 pm

My mum's family has lots of autistic traits and my dad's family has tics.

And there's me, and I have autism and Tourettes. ;) My brother and sister have tics and autism-like traits.


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