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24 Feb 2014, 2:57 am

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Completely serious, It makes me frustrated...how can this man name a condition with something that sounds like assburgers? Was he not consciously aware of this embarrassment? It sounds like assburgers...why would he name it that? as a cruel joke?

This guy was Australian.

I believe they took this into consideration when dropping assburger from the DSM 5. I am certain it had some influence on the decision to rename it ASD.

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Actually Austrian, the one by Germany where German is a common language...so I doubt he made the relation that in English it might sound like 'assburgers' also though that is not the correct pronunciation anyways.

It wouldn't matter even if he was English because:

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Asperger called the condition "autistic psychopathy"
Lorna Wing is credited with widely popularizing the term "Asperger's syndrome"

Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?

Because its not pronounced ass-pergers?

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24 Feb 2014, 2:59 am

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Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?

It is common practice to name a syndrome after the person who defined it.
I don't understand why, It is certainly not descriptive of the syndrome. It just gives credit to the person who defined it, as if they owned it, which is totally absurd, imo.
Autism spectrum disorder makes much more sense.

I am aware it is common...but in this case she should of made an exception. It irritates me to no end that she would go ahead and popularize such a term. Ass + Burgers. it is logic. 1+1 =2

You wouldn't name your kid first name "ass" middle name "burgers"...Usually when you name a kid you make sure it doesn't rhyme with anything that could be awkward or a play on words.

So lame...

"In and out" burger for example sounds like you eat the food then crap it out. Guys in suits actually sat around a big table and came up with this name?

His first name wasn't ass and his middle name wasn't burgers....and his parents probably also spoke german and that name doesn't rhyme with anything like 'ass-burgers' in German.

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24 Feb 2014, 3:06 am

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no-one ever said nor did i ever imply one category is more talented than the other ! !

i was hoping to write a brief rather than lengthier post and not endlessly qualifying my every statement or observation.

This sure came off that way:

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aspis to my mind crave friendships whereas autists are notoriously cold.

aspis often have talents and can soar above others with their abilities, autists (I hope I don't offend) seem like granite .... cold and inflexible, dead to inference and hint ..... maybe v occasionally with a super-functioning gift but near to odd as odd can be ....

Or perhaps I misunderstand what you mean by dead to inference and hint, like granite(seems to imply you think they just exist but don't have any thoughts/feelings or awareness of the world.

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24 Feb 2014, 3:31 am

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But would he have had that last name if he was english?....also German being the language of the area effects the pronunciation. So it would sound different if someone german said it than if someone from say the U.S says it the correct way to say it would be with a german accent which doesn't quite sound like 'assburgers' not sure how to spell how it would sound.

True. I just meant that his perception of his own name doesn't matter because he wasn't the one who named it after himself.

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Lorna Wing is oblivious then. My same argument applies here. Why did she not consider the ramification of such a name?

I don't know.

Lorna Wing defined Aspergers Syndrome. When she defined the syndrome it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Assburgers because the name of the clinician she named the syndrome for is pronounced AAS-PER-GERS not ASS-BURGERS. There is no freaking B in the guys last name or in the name of the syndrome. NO B in the name NO f***ing B in the correct pronunciation of the name.

Assburgers is an incorrect pronunciation used by some Americans. It was popularized in 2011 when the popular American comedy show South Park ran an episode entitled Ass Burgers. Since the show ran it has become common when the topic of Aspergers Syndrome comes up for bully's to use the term ASS-BURGERS to invalidate the syndrome and people who have it or just to use the term because to their juvenile minds they think it is funny. Unfortunately many people with Aspergers have internalized this bullying. Hans Asperger at a time of Nazi eugenics stated that people with "a dash of Autism" could be valuable to society. Hans Asperger was the first Autism advocate and you want to get rid of the tribute to him because you don't like the incorrect pronunciation of his last name. Even if his real last was was Assburgers it would be wrong to get rid of the tribute.

This whole Assburgers meme make me furious and heartbroken at the same time. You are mistaken if you think getting rid of the term is going to protect you from bully's or will validate your struggles. The bullys will find a way to to make the word Autism into more of a negative. The people who think that your struggles are because of character flaws and not "real autism" will not only still feel that way but become even more convinced when they see Autistic people saying the same thing.

AAS-PER-GERS sounds like ass-purgers which is even worse then assburgers. Purging your ass? What was wrong with this woman?

I cringe when I say it either way it's pronounced. I'm glad they buried it.

Overreacting. You're doing it right.
I hope this is the biggest problem you ever have to deal with in your life.

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24 Feb 2014, 3:41 am

lol, well I have a point right? Everyone hates to hear the ugly truth, that's why I am here to remind you all!

It either sounds like ass-burgers or ass-purgers. Both are horrifically disgusting. Why would you defend it?

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24 Feb 2014, 3:43 am

It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

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24 Feb 2014, 3:53 am

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It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

It really is a big deal. Presentation is everything. The name looks embarassing everywhere no matter if your 5 or 60. If avoiding using the term is common then that causes a big problem with classification and the persons identity.

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24 Feb 2014, 3:55 am

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It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

No, really, it isn't.
The NAME of your condition is just one tiny part of who you are. If people laugh at it, then rather than getting embarrassed, laugh right back at them for being so childish and petty.

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24 Feb 2014, 4:00 am

Who_Am_I wrote:

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It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

Id rather avoid the brief embarrassment and just say Autism. I do not like following up with "I have aspergers, it also sounds like assburgers, haha" that's just awkward. I make a joke about it to up front to just get it out of the way.

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24 Feb 2014, 4:02 am

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It's not "hate", it's just not that big of a deal. So what if people with the same sense of humour as a 5-year-old are going to laugh at it?

I vote for changing the name to "Poopybutt DiarrhoeaFace Syndrome".

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24 Feb 2014, 4:04 am

Dreycrux, what do you even care? You're not even an Aspie:

Diagnosis: Other autism spectrum disorder

So why do you even care let alone feel so strongly about it?

You wouldn't be trollin' now, would you?

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24 Feb 2014, 4:13 am

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It's just some people don't agree with how I see it. And I feel I see it for how it is, the term is embarrassing!

It's cause of speech delay but I believe I function well enough to be considered Asssssspie

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24 Feb 2014, 4:30 am

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Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, just as others are entitled to theirs but as Dirty Harry put it so eloquently, "Opinions are like as*holes. Everybody's got one!"

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24 Feb 2014, 4:39 am

ImAnAspie wrote:

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Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, just as others are entitled to theirs but as Dirty Harry put it so eloquently, "Opinions are like as*holes. Everybody's got one!"

I know I'm right though! It's a fact that the terms sounds the same with either pronunciation! .

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24 Feb 2014, 4:42 am

Dreycrux wrote:

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Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, just as others are entitled to theirs but as Dirty Harry put it so eloquently, "Opinions are like as*holes. Everybody's got one!"

I know I'm right though! It's a fact that the terms sounds the same with either pronunciation! .

Okay. You're right

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24 Feb 2014, 4:44 am

ImAnAspie wrote:

Dreycrux wrote:

ImAnAspie wrote:

Dreycrux wrote:

ImAnAspie wrote:

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, just as others are entitled to theirs but as Dirty Harry put it so eloquently, "Opinions are like as*holes. Everybody's got one!"

I know I'm right though! It's a fact that the terms sounds the same with either pronunciation! .

Okay. You're right

Deal =)

I spent days thinking about this so I better be right!

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