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12 Mar 2014, 6:41 pm

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unfortunately, more often than not, one must deal with aholes by becoming one one's self.



Yeah, that's kind-of what I was thinking about this thread. How do you avoid being too naive and trusting and getting manipulated without turning into a distrustful, paranoid cynic, especially when you're bad at reading people?

The only way I can think of is avoiding people and isolating oneself as much as possible. I like my alone time but total reclusion does not seem healthy to me. :lol:

one can try one's best to leaven the total reclusion by joining an aspie support group.



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12 Mar 2014, 6:48 pm

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unfortunately, more often than not, one must deal with aholes by becoming one one's self.



Yeah, that's kind-of what I was thinking about this thread. How do you avoid being too naive and trusting and getting manipulated without turning into a distrustful, paranoid cynic, especially when you're bad at reading people?

The only way I can think of is avoiding people and isolating oneself as much as possible. I like my alone time but total reclusion does not seem healthy to me. :lol:

one can try one's best to leaven the total reclusion by joining an aspie support group.


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12 Mar 2014, 6:55 pm

that, as well as being here on WP, works for me :)



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12 Mar 2014, 7:11 pm

No, I'm a stubborn biatch. If I don't want to do something I won't. Well, I might if I REALLY like a person, but it takes a lot to get me to REALLY like a person.


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12 Mar 2014, 7:17 pm

daydreamer84 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
unfortunately, more often than not, one must deal with aholes by becoming one one's self.



Yeah, that's kind-of what I was thinking about this thread. How do you avoid being too naive and trusting and getting manipulated without turning into a distrustful, paranoid cynic, especially when you're bad at reading people?

The only way I can think of is avoiding people and isolating oneself as much as possible. I like my alone time but total reclusion does not seem healthy to me. :lol:

I prefer to risk and socialize, even if it means having some people manipulating me at times.

a little off topic but I also want to stress about the importance of safety if you have trouble reading people's intentions, specially about rape. I was in potentially dangerous situations twice because of naivety so be careful.



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12 Mar 2014, 7:36 pm

Several times when I was young, people got me to do stuff by lying to me. Such as ask me to go get something of theirs that turned out to not be theirs, and as a result, I got accused of stealing.

If someone tries to manipulate me through black-male or by not returning a possession until I do something, I'm likely to get very angry and frustrated. Even if what they're asking me to do isn't bad\unreasonable. That kind of situation just causes a short circuit in my brain, and I flip out. :?


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12 Mar 2014, 9:02 pm

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IOW trying to scare you into doing something non-prudent.


Yes, that. A phrase I used somewhere was "instill a false sense of peril."

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That is so true! I really think people who engage in it on forums don't really give one flying F**** about the subject they are engaging in, it's all just a game to get in people's heads. They could be discussing dust mites for all they care, but it wouldn't get the same reaction, and they know exactly what will get it.


This kind of blows my mind, though. Not caring about the topic, only the reaction is utterly bizarre to me. Possibly why I don't really get antagonistic trolls.

Absurdist trolls I do get. They can be pretty hilarious, although the frustration they can cause is not quite so funny.


I am the same, re: antagonistic trolls. I make every attempt to stay away from the posts/threads where, clearly they've been ruffling everyone's feathers. I used to attempt to defend and protect. Now I won't go near them, as it makes things worse (and at times can trigger the Hell out of me).


How do you identify them to know not to engage?


They are clearly antagonistic. And successfully, so. They are abusive and taunting with questions and comments that get negative reactions and upset the other participants in the thread, and the other participants visibly try to defend themselves, or correct the troll, who has clearly, either, twisted their words, or taken things the others have said out of context (the antagonist did this to me, and made me feel so frustrated and embarrassed) and then proceed to play on that. The fact that they have an agenda is clear, in the way others react to them, period. I cannot watch it. In addition, their own comments are clearly lacking applicable substance/knowledge pertaining to the the topic at hand. In addition, the antagonistic troll posts controversial topics, which I have noticed other posters have called the antagonist, out, on. These people seem to like to get people in an uproar. Hopefully I've answered your question, as opposed to making an utter fool of myself for possibly, misunderstanding.



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12 Mar 2014, 9:17 pm

No, your answer is great. Thank you.



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12 Mar 2014, 10:49 pm

Verdandi wrote:
No, your answer is great. Thank you.


You're welcome!



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12 Mar 2014, 11:15 pm

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IOW trying to scare you into doing something non-prudent.


Yes, that. A phrase I used somewhere was "instill a false sense of peril."

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That is so true! I really think people who engage in it on forums don't really give one flying F**** about the subject they are engaging in, it's all just a game to get in people's heads. They could be discussing dust mites for all they care, but it wouldn't get the same reaction, and they know exactly what will get it.


This kind of blows my mind, though. Not caring about the topic, only the reaction is utterly bizarre to me. Possibly why I don't really get antagonistic trolls.

Absurdist trolls I do get. They can be pretty hilarious, although the frustration they can cause is not quite so funny.



I am the same, re: antagonistic trolls. I make every attempt to stay away from the posts/threads where, clearly they've been ruffling everyone's feathers. I used to attempt to defend and protect. Now I won't go near them, as it makes things worse (and at times can trigger the Hell out of me).


How do you identify them to know not to engage?


They are clearly antagonistic. And successfully, so. They are abusive and taunting with questions and comments that get negative reactions and upset the other participants in the thread, and the other participants visibly try to defend themselves, or correct the troll, who has clearly, either, twisted their words, or taken things the others have said out of context (the antagonist did this to me, and made me feel so frustrated and embarrassed) and then proceed to play on that. The fact that they have an agenda is clear, in the way others react to them, period. I cannot watch it. In addition, their own comments are clearly lacking applicable substance/knowledge pertaining to the the topic at hand. In addition, the antagonistic troll posts controversial topics, which I have noticed other posters have called the antagonist, out, on. These people seem to like to get people in an uproar. Hopefully I've answered your question, as opposed to making an utter fool of myself for possibly, misunderstanding.



We need a sticky posted somewhere that says - WHEN YOU SEE THESE SIGNS OF TROLLERY, DON'T RESPOND!



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12 Mar 2014, 11:38 pm

^
....or "Don't feed the trolls. It only makes them grow big and strong."



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13 Mar 2014, 1:30 am

Indeed.

I need something to remind me because most of the time I am not really observant enough to spot them.



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13 Mar 2014, 1:40 am

There are a couple people whose posts i don't read anymore :wink:



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13 Mar 2014, 2:03 am

If you been following me there is no need for me to answer this.

After the last few days to me this question is now just ironic like it was spawned from a specific situation :wink: but then again I could be wrong but even if it is I still see it as highly ironic to me.


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13 Mar 2014, 2:19 am

Verdandi wrote:
Indeed.

I need something to remind me because most of the time I am not really observant enough to spot them.


Yes this is a problem for me as well manipulation almost always flew above my head and unlike direct abuse and bullying manipulation is usually not clear.


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13 Mar 2014, 3:06 am

jenisautistic wrote:
If you been following me there is no need for me to answer this.

After the last few days to me this question is now just ironic like it was spawned from a specific situation :wink: but then again I could be wrong but even if it is I still see it as highly ironic to me.


I thought exactly the same thing.