Some people make it up

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Hi KoR, what do you mean by groomed? Does that mean he pretends to be nice to get information?

What does sectioned mean? Sorry, I must sound dumb!

This person sounds scary! I was reading an article not to long ago about people who are nice and normal IRL but psychopaths on the internet. I don't believe it for a second. I think you have to be really cruel 100% to engage in things like that.

Yeah, it's not impossible to want to fake it, I agree. I think bringing that up as a primary concern the way the doctor did in the OP was really weird, though.

I've mentioned Wrong Planet to my case manager and both therapists as well as a psychiatrist and they didn't see anything wrong with hanging around here.

I think I understand why individuals would want to fake it.

An individual whom has no label to 'explain' their problems would feel defective, and that is recognized by Tony Attwood. Individuals in question would often be ignored and would have to put up with comments such as 'build a bridge and get over it' and 'man up'. With AS in particular, society will assume that without such a disorder an individual with bad social skills and many various quirks is that way entirely due to their own fault, i.e. having no confidence or being spoiled. It's a harsh reality.

I agree with those who say it would be extremely difficult to fake AS. To fabricate one's entire childhood history would be a considerable feat, not to mention, all of that person's current friends would be very put off if the "faker" suddenly started presenting with autistic symptoms such as lack of eye-contact, misinterpretation of figures of speech, and potentially hurtful bluntness. If my NT friend suddenly started acting like that, I'd suspect she'd either gone off me and didn't want to be friends anymore, or had suffered brain damage.

I suppose there doesn't have to be a "sensible" reason for faking it such as for getting help at work or disability benefits, I've read about people faking things like OCD, depression, even physical handicaps like using a wheelchair, all for the attention, and these are otherwise "normal" people with no prior history of manipulation, thereby ruling out a diagnosis of Munchausen's.

Anyone who wanted to get disability benefits in the US would be better off faking depression, anxiety, ptsd, or maybe a severe personality disorder. It would still be a lot of work. When I got access to my therapy and psych records last year, I noted that my behavior, affect, mannerism, stimming, etc. were constantly noted down whether I was aware of them or not.

And then of course there's the Rosenhan Study:

http://www.bonkersinstitute.org/rosenhan.html

grooming tends to be related to children but its a term also regulary applied to people with disabilities known as 'grooming of a vulnerable adult'.
its where a person takes advantage of someones vulnerabilities
and manipulates them,they imitate their behaviors and interests to make it look like they are relateable so are more likely to trust them.

they use the grooming to get any information they want out of them, that guy was always asking for info on any medications am on,adaptions and equipment am using,the living situation am in,and the next minute he woud be posting the same thing word for word as his experience, stupidly didnt realise he was doing this for several years and didnt realise was being stalked by him across different forums including a hacking one; was threatened on them and was told am a useless ret*d who shoud kill self,one time after abusing he posted on the blog under a sockpuppet asking how the abuse felt,he was determined in making self feel as rotten and worthless as himself.

it was a bunch of fellow friends on a mixed disability board that looked into this and confirmed what was going on after had realised he posted a sentance of mine as his straight after PMing him.
there was one time he asked a disability forum about severe tonic clonic seizures;he asked how long the seizures went on for,he then went and pretended to have severe epilepsy and status epilepticus on an autism forum for pity.

in the UK,what he did to self is a serious criminal offense but because of lacking the communication to tell people what was happening was unable to tell those around self,and just before got sectioned had actualy been making an organisation for adults with intelectual disability on how to spot grooming and cyber bullying and get help as there is no information for us yet we are easy targets,a irish cousin of mine who also has intelectual disability has been badly bullied and groomed over facebook to the point she went into crisis and has now deleted her fb so we dont speak anymore.

-sectioning is when we are forcibly detain in a hospital/secure unit and there are different levels of sectioning;each section has a limited amount of time attached to it and they have to legaly apply for the next section if the time runs out.
think there are four sections and was personaly on a section three which meant they legaly were allowed to detain for up to six months;was kept detained for four months in a intelectual disability hospital which is far worse than pysch wards in terms of length of stays and what theyre allowed to do when a patient has challenging behavior.
-was given placement in that hospital because his actions had caused a massive surge in challenging behavior,and after being discharged in january was put on a 'after care section' it has a number attached though am not sure what, it just means it has a lot of things that have to be followed by care services and by law cannot be restricted by it;had asked advocate this.

nearly ended up sectioned last sunday again but not due to him.

Some people fake disorders to garner sympathy/empathy from others -- just like any manipulative behavior.

Some people read up and self-diagnose themselves (mainly because they like the nice positive spin some articles use), not realizing that they most likely don't have it if they're married/social and working like anyone else -- these people also get a tentative diagnosis for said disorder when they really shouldn't (often with saying that they were worst when younger -- well, if you've improved to be functionally normal now, you don't have the disorder anymore). This is manipulation too.

That's a couple of reasons.

I clicked on NO.

I don't know how anyone could fake it.

A person can probably imitate certain behaviours, but they can never fake the actual reality of Aspergers.

They can't know how it actually feels, can they?

WTF!! !! ! F that student!

Or better yet don't, because ew.

They fake having one mental disorder because they really DO have some OTHER mental disorder!

Lol!

There is such thing as body dysmorphia where a person feels incomplete because they don't have a missing arm or leg or body part. It's like gender identity so perhaps it's the same with a mental disorder too. Some people feel they need to have one or they are incomplete without it. I wonder if it has a name. There is Munchhausen syndrome but that is when they are doing it for sympathy and attention.

With research and preparation, I don't think it would be that hard to fake autism, such that other people think you have autism. Put on classic/stereotypical autistic behaviors, and lots of people will think you have autism. More severe behaviors would probably work bester, so you can focus on acting all out autistic instead of managing a set of more subtle behaviors at a convincing level. Of course someone who does this would have other mental disorder probably Munchausens.

It makes sense that people would fake it, because AS is a legal defense ("I have Asperger syndrome, so take pity on me")

1. Maryland bankruptcy judge has found that a woman's Asperger syndrome allows her to discharge nearly $340,000 in student loan debt ...
http://www.businessinsider.com/340k-in- ... tic-2012-5

2. Asperger man makes threats, attorney says to judge "he was off his meds"
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/ ... tsxml.html

3. Asperger rapist/murder James Troutman
Troutman's defense attorney, Craig Penglase stated about AS as it pertains to the murder/rape of a nine year old girl: "it could be a "profound" mitigating factor, information presented in court that could result in reduced charges or a lesser sentence".
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2011/05/a ... fense.html

4. Hacker Ryan Cleary has AS , lawyer says
Ryan Cleary, the 19-year-old charged in the U.K. on five counts of computer hacking activity, has Asperger's syndrome, his lawyer told a judge at a hearing today.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-200743 ... wyer-says/

And don't forget the guy who hacked into the computer system and got to avoid extradition to the US or else he would have committed suicide because he had AS.