Getting a bit sick of the Pro-Marijuana culture...

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09 Apr 2014, 10:46 pm

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if only it were a pill I could swallow or a tincture I could add to my drinks.



It does actually exist in those forms also as edibles, but not sure your state had dispensaries, let alone ones open for recreational use as well.

Washington, compared to Colorado, took the scenic route to legalization. the first OTC dispensaries are to arrive in july.


I was sort of wondering what was going on in Washington, we already have stores here....but the prices are pretty ridiculous at those places so lots of people still buy underground.


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09 Apr 2014, 10:48 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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if only it were a pill I could swallow or a tincture I could add to my drinks.



It does actually exist in those forms also as edibles, but not sure your state had dispensaries, let alone ones open for recreational use as well.

Washington, compared to Colorado, took the scenic route to legalization. the first OTC dispensaries are to arrive in july.


I was sort of wondering what was going on in Washington, we already have stores here....but the prices are pretty ridiculous at those places so lots of people still buy underground.

due to strict regulation and taxes the prices will be exorbitant here also. I will stop in the [head] shop once just to say I did it. if I find some product I can use on a regular basis, maybe more often.



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09 Apr 2014, 10:50 pm

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But I can't let anyone say that smoking as much as possible and being constantly high is good. I know someone who is around 50 and has been using cannabis daily (quite heavily) for 30 years. She took it for stress relief, and from what other people told me it was quite efficient in the beginning, but it kept getting worse and worse. Now what I can see is a paranoid, agressive and globally unpleasant person, who is only bearable when she is smoking pot, and can literally go screaming and do anxiety attacks if she thinks she may not have enough weed.


And you know for sure she was not like that before?


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09 Apr 2014, 10:57 pm

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And can anyone tell me if In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida actually means anything?


From what I've heard "In A Gadda Da Vida" was a drunken mispronunciation of "In the Garden of Eden". ;) When Iron Butterfly's vocalist recorded that song, he was pretty well smashed, and I guess they decided to name the song after his pronunciation instead of going with "In the Garden of Eden".

transistor radios of the day were notoriously bad in their intelligibility, and so the fans were the ones who were requesting "inagaddadavida" because they could not discern the syllables via the crude reproduction of the day.


My friend's stepdad has the original vinyl of it though, and I'm fairly certain the final title was in fact "In A Gadda Da Vida".

Anyhow, why am I having such a hard time finding a decent sounding version of it on YouTube? I remember the vinyl version sounded awesome, and I can't imagine it would be that hard for someone to hook up a turntable and rip it to a WAV file.


Not sure I have an 'original' or whatever but I do have a copy of that album on vinyl and it certainly says In A Gadda Da Vida in that spelling.
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09 Apr 2014, 10:59 pm

Since the dawn of humanity people have been using drugs. Even wild animals get drunk now and then off of fermenting fruits and wild hallucinogenic fungus's.

In my opinion, if its natural there should be no laws against it, although it should be somewhat regulated so there would be less tendencies for over abuse. and I feel it all should be illegal for anyone whose brain is still growing to have access to it.

By what I seen many people tend to want things more when its illegal then when not. and its ridiculous people are imprisoned for things like cannabis when its such a low class natural drug. in my opinion alcohol is far worse.

Do you know, that fermented alcohol is actually an animals defecations? your drinking another animals piss.
And the THC in cannabis is actually the plants own insecticide it produces to defend its self, your smoking or ingesting poisons.

People should never pressure others into doing or trying anything they do not want to do, to each their own.

Now if you excuse me, my shot glass of piss is not empty yet and I just loaded my pip with insecticides.


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10 Apr 2014, 11:49 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
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And can anyone tell me if In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida actually means anything?


From what I've heard "In A Gadda Da Vida" was a drunken mispronunciation of "In the Garden of Eden". ;) When Iron Butterfly's vocalist recorded that song, he was pretty well smashed, and I guess they decided to name the song after his pronunciation instead of going with "In the Garden of Eden".


If that's true, its a great origin story!

I think its plausible as well. In one of our own teenage dens of iniquity, peoples mispronouncing things was hysterical and we wrote the gems on the walls. :lol:



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10 Apr 2014, 1:20 pm

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Since the dawn of humanity people have been using drugs. Even wild animals get drunk now and then off of fermenting fruits and wild hallucinogenic fungus's.


Yes, but have you ever seen drunk monkeys? Talk about not being able to hold their liquor! 8O Not to mention how difficult it is to give them the breathalyzer test.



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10 Apr 2014, 1:46 pm

Toy_Soldier wrote:
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Since the dawn of humanity people have been using drugs. Even wild animals get drunk now and then off of fermenting fruits and wild hallucinogenic fungus's.


Yes, but have you ever seen drunk monkeys? Talk about not being able to hold their liquor! 8O Not to mention how difficult it is to give them the breathalyzer test.


LoL, yes I have seen. :lol: they can be obnoxious little s**ts cant they?!


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10 Apr 2014, 2:57 pm

AspergianMutantt wrote:
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Since the dawn of humanity people have been using drugs. Even wild animals get drunk now and then off of fermenting fruits and wild hallucinogenic fungus's.


Yes, but have you ever seen drunk monkeys? Talk about not being able to hold their liquor! 8O Not to mention how difficult it is to give them the breathalyzer test.


LoL, yes I have seen. :lol: they can be obnoxious little s**ts cant they?!

especially when they start throwing.



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10 Apr 2014, 6:04 pm

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I'm against drug abuse and recreational use of drugs.

"Pro" movements are blind, including "Pro-Marijuana". They coerce, lie and manipulate information to make others accept their belief.


That's a pretty provocative statement. If you make blanket insults like this at least tell us how you have been coerced and what is being lied about and manipulated. I think in light of the fact that most world governments have treated marijuana as a substance as dangerous as heroin and crack, have imprisoned citizens for possession of less than a gram (some countries executing citizens for mere possession), and emphatically claimed that marijuana has no medicinal value, it would be fair to say that anti-marijuana movements have a far greater track record of the things you claim in your post.

As for your broader claim about "pro" movements in general, I suppose we should bring back slavery and take away women's rights to vote. After all, there were pro-emancipation and pro-women's rights movements.



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10 Apr 2014, 6:37 pm

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I'm against drug abuse and recreational use of drugs.

"Pro" movements are blind, including "Pro-Marijuana". They coerce, lie and manipulate information to make others accept their belief.


That's a pretty provocative statement. If you make blanket insults like this at least tell us how you have been coerced and what is being lied about and manipulated. I think in light of the fact that most world governments have treated marijuana as a substance as dangerous as heroin and crack, have imprisoned citizens for possession of less than a gram (some countries executing citizens for mere possession), and emphatically claimed that marijuana has no medicinal value, it would be fair to say that anti-marijuana movements have a far greater track record of the things you claim in your post.

As for your broader claim about "pro" movements in general, I suppose we should bring back slavery and take away women's rights to vote. After all, there were pro-emancipation and pro-women's rights movements.


Hey, we prob should take away womens rights again, not so to keep them from them, but it seems woman shall never be happy unless she is bitching about and fighting for something. :twisted:


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10 Apr 2014, 6:51 pm

Everything has side effects. I'm allergic to some plants.

Also, even though smoking pot can be an enjoyable experience to me (but makes me way more autistic) the next day I'm a paranoid mess. It's horrible for my bipolar, so not for me. Maybe medical marijuana is safer but I wouldn't risk it.

I'd be all for regulation of drugs, but just remember the most tightly controlled prescription drugs can be abused too. If people want to get high then they'll go to any length to see that happen.


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10 Apr 2014, 7:12 pm

I think that along the lines of the Protestant work ethic that still pervades the American subconscious, the idea that it's bad to feel good other than via religious methods still reigns in America. For history buffs, I'm theorizing this as a result of the Second Great Awakening. Or perhaps it's due to the general prevalence of Christianity in America. Even the typical non-religious American thinks of Christian principles when they think of religion.



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10 Apr 2014, 7:14 pm

American puritanism is indestructible.



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10 Apr 2014, 7:59 pm

AspergianMutantt wrote:
Hey, we prob should take away womens rights again, not so to keep them from them, but it seems woman shall never be happy unless she is bitching about and fighting for something. :twisted:


Ah, the mating call of the misogynist in its natural habitat.



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10 Apr 2014, 9:08 pm

1) "Anti" movements also are blind, like political ideologies.

2) When I say "blind" I refer to an ideology that won't accept opposition despite adverse consequences (Example: ther have been studies about the adverse effect of cannabis, but some people don't believe them or try to refute them using fallacies).

3) Obviously not all "Pro" and "Anti" people and use the mentioned methods.

4) I prefer to make a decision considering the pros and cons, the context, and the long-term effects ("I'm against..." or "I'm in favor of..." sound less strong than the other "absolute terms)